Hawaii sucks

I’ve been avoiding this topic since I started this blog but I’m finally breaking down to gripe. And I’m sure I’ll get a lot of flames in the comments about this or any future posts I may have on the subject.

I hate Hawaii. I’ve lived here for over 2 1/2 years and I can’t wait to leave. Sure, the weather is nice but it really does get old after a while; I really miss having all four seasons. But apart from that, I can’t really find a lot of redeeming qualities about Hawaii.

Most of the people I’ve met in the past who enjoy Hawaii only came for a week or two to visit. If you never get out of the tourist areas, I’m sure it’s quite nice. Waikiki is clean (at least where the tourists go) and the beaches are nice over there. But once you leave the tourist areas, Honolulu is more like a ghetto. Many of the buildings are decrepit, there’s trash and graffiti all over, there’s a lot of homeless people, etc. Behind the facade of paradise is the gutter of real Hawaii.

The local government could care less about doing its job and corruption is rampant across the islands. Last year, 48 million gallons of raw sewage were dumped into the Ala Wai Canal (the demarcation between Waikiki and Honolulu proper). This canal goes straight into the beach area of Waikiki. In the 2+ years I’ve been here, there’s probably been more than eight sewage spills around Oahu, most of them into the canal.

The city waited three days or so before they posted signs after one of the spills and only did it after public outcry. The reason is because they didn’t want to scare the tourists. However, after the big Ala Wai spill, one man died from acquiring a flesh-eating bacteria infection after falling into the contaminated water. The city claims there was no connection between the infection and the release of sewage.

The latest problem is between go! airlines and Hawaiian. Hawaiian is trying to sue to have go! shutdown due to predatory pricing. go! currently charges ~$20 for a one-way trip to a neighbor island. Hawaiian feels it has to charge the same but, since Hawaiian has a larger infrastructure due to also supplying intercontinental flights, they simply can’t afford to compete locally. They also claim that go! used Hawaiian’s financial information illegally after gaining access to it during Hawaiian’s bankruptcy filings. So rather than competing on service or other things that may justify a higher price, Hawaiian is following the route of the music companies and trying to use the courts to prop up an outdated business model, or so it appears. Hawaiian has admitted that they will raise prices immediately to “market level” if go! is shut down.

There is a distinct racial bias against white people and, to an similar extent, black people too. But if you look “local”, you’re okay. I have friend who is Hispanic and was treated like a local when he went to a bar, even having people buy him drinks. But his white friends were given the cold shoulder, or at least not treated nearly as well. And Zeus forbid if you’re military.

The term “haolie” is used to distinguish white people from all others here. According to a dictionary I looked at, haolie means “foreigner”. But it’s definitely not used for all non-locals, only the white ones. And I’ve talked to several native Hawaiians who have stated that it actually means “soulless one”, implying that white people have no soul.

Speaking of language, since when is pidgin English considered a bona-fide language? It’s considered an unofficial language of Hawaii; they have dictionaries, books, and even classes on how to speak it. To me, I just think the speaker is a completely illiterate imbecile when I hear it. Seriously, it makes a person sound like a complete moron when he can’t speak in complete sentences. It’s worse than hearing people who have English as a second language; at least you know they’re trying to learn English.

I have a lot more to complain about but I’ll save it for later. But I know that I’m not alone in my distaste for Hawaii. Nearly every single military person I’ve met hates it here and can’t wait for orders out of here. As a matter of fact, there was one guy who cut his shore duty short and went back to sea because he couldn’t stand it.

Update: Since everyone seems to love commenting about this article (probably because of the title), I thought I’d make sure readers realize that there are other, related articles to this. Apparently relying on people to look at the sidebar for similar stories isn’t enough.

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  2. Harold says:

    Well sounds like to me the Island kicked your ASS Haolie It don’t matter where you Go there you are sounds like you did not want to become a local brother granted there are many stupid people every where you where just hanging out at the wrong places Bro if you where being treated so bad I am from Northern MI and moved to Kauai 6 years now some trouble fitting in small Island but once people know me as a stand up guy most everything is cool .It takes time to build relationships sounds like your no good at that so time for you to go home BYE .

    • Kimo says:

      I agree with you Harold! You can bitch-and-moan about everything I guess! At least it’s NOT Wisconsin~~~

  3. Bob says:

    Stupid haolie, you must be on crack, retard.

  4. john says:

    I’ve had the same experience, it takes a couppla years before people warm up to you I guess they wanna see if you are gonna last ( about 90-95% of the people who move to Hawaii leave in the first two years?). I brought my dog out to my ex when I was supposed to die in a couppla months tops, that was almost nine years ago my ex has moved to Az, my pup is now late, and I’m still here. People still aren’t to warm and fuzzy but I’m fair skinned and grayed blond hair. I still get the HPM bull shite like a teller at the bank pulled some shite whenI made a large payment he made it so instead on going to principle and me paying less interest, he made it so I’d be paying some type of special payment method and I’d be paying twice the interest (like that shit wound’t show up on my statement and I won’t go in raise hell with the branch manager and then file a report with the BBB and write a nasty letter to Bank of Hawaii corp. about the branch manger allowing this to happen? While it may not be his fault directly it happened on his watch, and for you on here who say “stupid Haole” I might be just that, but I have a stack of notarized apology letters(hand written and typed copies from the employee and from the business and in some cases the corporation) from all you “smart locals” trying to pull that shit with me. Some have keep their jobs with stipulations of retraining, and donation of part of their wage from each check to a charity. Some I’ve made sure they won’t be rehired anytime soon in their field. Any request for information re: the persons job performance in the future must include being fired for discrimination (and theft in this case). I’m disabled and use a service dog, so when I’m in a store and you local folks ill behaved kids are running around unsupervised and decide they wanna climb on my dog and play? I say “Aloha, no can play he is working helping me to walk?” of course they are kids they don’t understand I don’t really mind if I’m waiting in line and my pup is just laying there waiting, but when I am trying to get somewhere and your kids are grabbing at my dog & getting up in his face and won’t listen to me to leave him alone, so I get stern and say “HEY LEAVE MY FUCKING DOG ALONE” and that’s when you suddenly become the good parent and show up and you wanna get in my face bout “Why you got that dog in here, HUH?” and go off on me for being in the store with my dog? Yeah where you gonna shop when I have your arse eighty- six-ed permanently from Walmart ’cause you to stupid to know I am Federally protected and have full access rights free from harassment according to the ADA (no my dog doesn’t have to wear a vest for you to be able to identify him as a service animal) which put’s you in a hellava spot? Ignorance of the law is not a credible excuse nor a valid defense. You know what the pathetic part of all this shite is? Most these arse holes calling us stupid Haole’s aren’t Hawaiians, they may have some tiny portion, but most are just as Haole as we are difference is they’re Asians, Samoans, Tongans, Mexicans, or Portuguese or something else they just have brown skin so they feel entitled. guess what y’all Hawaii is in the USA which was founded by white folks, you gotta problem with it you are welcome to go back to your own damn islands or countries that didn’t take over Hawaii? You apparently chose to live in the USA because none of you are even old enough to remember what Hawaii was before it was what it is and has been since the 50′s so get over your attitudes, you just look ignorant.

  5. Alexander says:

    White people, excuse, me, mainland people are the most racist pieces of shit i ever met in my life. The majority of you fucks are ignorant as hell, only capable of understanding one way of life and that’s yours. I’m in the military an never new what prejudice and racism actually meant until I joined. The military is the most racist organization in America. All they do is talk about race. As for living in Hawaii you fucking idiot, you adapt to where you live, not the other way around. Why should the people of hawaii have to adopt to your life style? To make you feel comfortable? Your ass fagget!! All you mainland people do is bring down and stereotype every other ethnicity in causal conversation and wonder why hawaii people hate you fucks, in fact why the world hates us. becuase of arrgant fucks like you, who cannot accept peoples way of thinking and doing things. All of us who leave the islands in pursuit of education or work all say the same thing on how weird you ignorant pricks or. We take our shoes of in the house its weird, we eat rice we automatically asian, spam is weird, everything we do that you fucks don’t do normally is weird. You cunts can’t accept the fact that we are all different. When it comes to our accent you arrogant fuck, we all have the ability to turn it off and on, it’s nothing more than your southern accents, black accents, and white trash accents. It’s just an accent you dumb cunt. Ignorant white people I swear. And I know your white. Black people don’t bullshit about our life style, only yall. One tracked mind fuck.

    • nothingsuprisesanymore says:

      I am sure you will get far in life with your, ahem..coloful vocabulary, it speaks volumes of your intellect. It must be a joke. you sound like a sad person..Hawaii will cheer you up! We will think good thoughts for you!

  6. My Truth says:

    A few years back, I wrote a couple of posts, and today, I revisited them. Not surprisingly, I still feel the same way about everything I said about Hawaii in general, and Oahu in particular. But I’m still here, dug in as ever, while continuing to live a better and better life. Local people who live small, major in minor things, and think the best thing ever is to never learn how to speak properly, are marginalized – and they did it themselves.

    Some time ago, a friend of mine spoke some of the truest words I’ve ever heard before, or since. He said:

    “The best revenge is to live well.”

    He was so right. He was so, so right.

    I made over $90,000 last year, not including benefits. If you extrapolate the amount of money my company spends on benefits, I’m making $125,000.

    $125,000…$125,000…I’d say that places me pretty far up the food chain. It gets better.

    I own my own home, with a small mortgage on it, and $130,000 in equity. I own my car free and clear, and whatever my girlfriend and I want to do, we do it.

    I’ve got cash in the bank – and, I’m not talking about a couple thousand. Let’s just say that I have a substantial emergency fund, stock investments, a huge fully-funded 401(k), cash in other bank accounts, and oh, a fully funded Roth IRA.

    All told, I’m pretty sure I’m in a net worth bracket that places me somewhere in the top 1% – 5% in the Kingdumb uv Huva-ee.

    But, that’s not really the best of everything.

    At my place of employment, I’m a work leader/supervisor of 15 people. Truth be told, this is probably the sweetest of all the ways a man could “live well”.

    That’s right, Kimo. Whatever I say needs to be done to my subordinates, who are all local, gets done by them.

    Urinals and shitters need to be cleaned? Get going, Kalani…

    Crappy assignment shoved my way by the boss? Hey, Keoki, get this shit done by noontime.

    Here’s the best part: Don’t want to do something because you’re a lazy, vagrant, apathetic loser, who only knows how to do things “plantation-style”? Fine. See the thing that isn’t done that is supposed to be done because it’s the right thing, but then your pussy-ass, marginalized, and bigoted-faggot-ass doesn’t want to pull his own weight? Great!

    Do it.

    Now.

    Now, that’s the sweetest of all kinds of payback. I’ve seen a fair bit of talk about karma on these message boards, and you know what Ku’uip’o? Guess what?

    For all that lame-ass, 5th grade-style way in which you approach every part of your life, only to become the bane of others’ existence, this is my payback to you. I really, really hope you hate doing whatever I order you to do.

    Don’t want to follow orders? No problem! Do you really want me to go “by the book”? OK, then, we can work non-stop all day, every day, with your pitiful 15 minute coffee breaks and unpaid half hour lunch break. Don’t want to do what you’re told?

    Great! But, here’s what I have in store for you:

    - Don’t ever expect to get promoted. Ever. You’ll be making 10 bucks an hour for as long as I’m here.
    - Expect to get hardnosed – and it will be legal. I’ll have you scrubbing the bathroom floor each and every day until it breaks you. You’ll want to quit, and that’ll be just fine by me. There’s another lame-ass local waiting for me to push around.
    - Don’t ever be late, break a rule, or let me find you slacking in any way, shape, or form. I’ll fire your pathetic ass in two seconds flat, and that’ll be the end of your employment with us – on the spot.
    - Oh, and by the way, everything I do here will be documented in memo for record format…and Kimo…you know you can’t write worth a damn. It’s funny; really it is, how easy it is to intimidate pathetic locals just by having a command of the English language – and to be able to express one’s self clearly and accurately in writing and the spoken word. Truly, truly funny. You won’t know what hit you when you read what I have to say about how pathetic and inefficient you really are. It’ll feel like you got hit with a fucking steamroller.

    So, to my American buddies out there: I hope you enjoy this little tutorial on how to be The Man. I’ll help ANYBODY who wants to gain a position of power – ANYBODY who wants to better their lives – ANYBODY who wants to master finances and management of their positions of power…almost anybody…

    BUT DON’T YOU COME CRAWLING TO ME, YOU FUCKING DIRTY LOCAL. YOU WON’T GET AN OUNCE OF HELP FROM ME, EVER. YOU GO DO WHAT YOU WERE BORN TO DO AND TAKE A PULL ON THAT CRACK PIPE WHILE YOU KNOCK-UP THAT DISGUSTING TITA OF A GIRLFRIEND of yours, WHOM YOU PUT ON FOOD STAMPS AS A WAY OF LIFE. GET LOST, and don’t you EVER contact me for help OF ANY KIND. You’ve made your bed, now go lay in the disgusting stench and squalor of it.

    I totally understand that you aren’t able to comprehend the message I’ve left here today. Let me help by laying it out for you, OK?

    1. GET DICTIONARY.
    2. OPEN DICTIONARY. MATCH WORDS HERE WITH WORDS IN DICTIONARY.
    3. WRITE DOWN ALL WORDS YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND IN DEFINITION.
    4. LOOK UP ALL WORDS IN DEFINITION YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND.
    5. WITH THAT CONFUSED, STUPID LOOK ON YOUR FACE, ASK ANY CAUCASIAN FOR ASSISTANCE.
    6. KEEP NODDING YOUR HEAD LIKE YOU UNDERSTAND. GO AWAY MORE CONFUSED THAN BEFORE.
    7. GO ASK YOUR AUNTIE LUANA. SHE WILL EXPLAIN IT TO YOU IN PIDGIN.
    8. START FROM STEP 1 AGAIN.
    9. GIVE UP LIKE YOU ALWAYS DO.
    10. GET TO SHINING MY FUCKING SHOES, BOY, BECAUSE THAT’S ALL YOU’LL EVER BE ABLE TO DO, OK, SHINE BOY? GET FUCKED.

    I do hope I made things clear.

    And, stupid local, if you’re wondering where all the hurtful truths have come from, if you’re really wondering why people like me come on to boards like this to set the record straight, I want you to go into the bathroom and look in the fucking mirror. See that stupid mug in the reflection? Guess what? Well, I’ll let you figure it out…

    Now, go and SPREAD DA ALOHA…That’s a real fucking joke. I haven’t seen shit from almost ANYBODY, unless you’re doing a favor for them. You can take your aloha and shove it straight up your ass. You’ve been found out. There is no “Spirit of Aloha”. There probably never was…unless you were local, Hawaiian, or part-Hawaiian – but, even then, you people go around fucking each other’s wives and girlfriends, stab each other in the back, and throw one another under TheBus. And, that whole garbage about spreading the aloha to others is just a plain fucking lie. I never needed it, anyway. Remember, stupid local? I have my own family, my own culture, my own friends, my own world. The love we have is not one bit less than any other form of love out there in the world. You might as well call aloha “poison”, because that’s what it boils down to.

    Now, if you don’t mind, I have some work to do. It takes planning and effort to make sure I’m always steps ahead of you fucking people. Actually, not that much effort, but some. At any rate, go on being your pathetic selves, and I’ll just punch that clock every day at 7 am to RULE your fucking world and to make sure that you NEVER get past your pathetic, lame-ass level that you’re at now.

    Go get fucked.

    Have a nice day, stupid local…

    • john says:

      I have many a day when I feel exactly the same I tell friends in NYC, ” There is more fucking hillbilly here than back home in Kentucky, Hell you can’t swing a cat without hitt’in stupid!” and when ya call em on it they stare atcha with that damn blank stupid dead eyed look and give ya that yeah yeah yeah nooooooo shite LMDFAO. You are 10% correct in your summery of Aloha unless they believe there might be a slim chance of a bit of coin left to be shaken from your trouser there would be no reason to acknowledge you whatsoever. The gay men are the rudest bunch of uppity queers I’ve ever come across (believe me purely a pun), and they certainly aint all that. In the words of a friend “She thinks she’s a super model, mmm mmm that one itint even catalog work. Any other city, (and I’ve lived in 48 states now, you’renew in town some one wil break the ice say hey buy ya a beer, ask if ya need a tour… Hawaii is the first place the locals act like you owe them a round. they just sit there and give ya attitude.. It was all laughable. Now I realize I talk and write (yes I write much like I speak I am a bit of a goof ball, I’m a down home boy from Dale hollow Kentucky) I’m to old to be chang’in that any time soon. But I have been to college, and in fact I still go to college I’m in school again now. Have had several careers made my share of money and retired at 42. Now because I talk slow and with a drawl people here seem to think I’m an easy mark and y’all know how theses good ol boys pride themselves n being so damn clever they gonna ourt smart ya every bend in the road LOL so I figure if it’s that important to em I’ll let em Ill play along if the gotta fell like they are a big man but when it comes down o signing that paper and getting screwed I gotta look em in the eyes and say “you know I can’t sign that and get fucked so you can feel good about your self right? LMDFAO

      • My Truth says:

        Hi John,

        Thanks for the response, and yes, I do detect your drawl – even in your writing! It must be pretty thick to be able to pick up on it in written grammatical usage :)

        So, I got all of what you said. Not sure how much it relates to what I posted, but from what I can tell, you seem to understand that Hawaii is fairly difficult to assimilate and blend in if you’re Caucasian, and I would totally agree! This Fall will make 25 years in the Islands…

        Best,

        Truth

    • nothingsuprisesanymore says:

      Well said!

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  8. I have never been to Hawaii….nor do I want too. Reading over all the post…. I see stupidity on both sides. Any coastal city is going to have a high amount of entitled people…. sounds like the natives of Hawaii are afraid of change and stuck in the past. It really don’t matter one way or the other…. In the future Hawaii will become Islands of decay and death in a radioactive Pacific. Cancer rates will skyrocket and the traits that made Hawaii a Paradise…. will become the natives nightmare. Natives…. when the blinders are pulled from your eyes and you realize “Damn the ocean might be radioactive”. Please don’t be a hypocrite and move to the Mainland of the Haoles. Take solace you will waste away with celebrities like Roseanne Barr and Duane “Dog” Chapman. No wonder….. Natives are on ICE…. I would be also if I was being ate up with cancer. It really is a sad story of Paradise Lost…. Natives you can keep your contaminated Island paradise. I will continue to watch the Dog…. round you all up for bail jumping…. and the state fining and imprisoning you. That is not my definition of Paradise…. so you will forgive me for disagreeing.

  9. john says:

    Dear Clayton,
    Thank you for your insightful post! Seriously. I had no desire to move here myself, I have no attraction to Asians, their it’s ok to steal from, lie to, white people, superiority complexes, or the nightmarish traffic here.
    I find it often makes me a mean person that I don’t like. Having to deal with looking into blank, dead, unqualified eyed people on a regular basis is at best frustratingly maddening. I did not move here because I thought it would be “paradise”, I only came because I have terminal cancer, am disabled and used a service dog for a number of years. The Docs said I had a couppla months at best, so I brought my pup out to my ex who lived here, so my pup would be well cared for? Since then my ex has moved, and my pup has become late, I’m on a very limited income and trying to do some good while waiting around to die.
    There is a very sad disease here which is rampant amongst the so called “locals”(*) (not the Hawaiian folks, the ones of those I’ve met have actually been lovely people). It is this whole “fuck you, chip on the shoulder, I’m really someone important, small town bull shite ignorant attitude. Attitude seems to be the only thing they have here besides over filled landfills.

    *** “Locals” are people who have either recently themselves moved here and have brown skin (usually asian, samoan, portuguese, mexican, decent who think they are somebody, or perhaps their family has lived here a few generations and maybe married in s they have a bit of hawaiian blood, but never of course more than 50% decreasing with each generation. They still love to brag how they are Hawaiian when in reality they don’t seem to understand, Hawaii being a U.S.A. State is part of the U.S.A.? So people who’s families are founding families of the U.S.A. are actually more entitled to call Hawaii theirs than these other immigrants from other countries? Hawaii has to my knowledge never been part of japan, china, portugal, mexico, tonga, samoa, Hawaii has however been owned by Hawaii and it has been owned by the USA?
    Oddly when I point out to these self important “locals” this point that I actually have more right to live in Hawaii than they do they are not overly pleased by this logic. lol
    Most to young to remember what happened to japanese families living in the USA when we went to war with them last time….
    Sadly most people here don’t understand people on the mainland see it as a vacation spot like disney land not a real state, for the most part it’s nothing more than a dormant base, that the government ignores … until it is needed again.
    Then for those people who are spouting off about hating the USA and certain ethnic group i.e. white people, they will just be in the way, nuisances needing to kept out of the way or disposed of.
    Oh sad ignorant people who don’t listen to their elders, go to school, read a book?

    ****
    (In all honesty, I personally don’t believe someone can own the earth, air, water it’s something we should all just be respectful of, try to tend and enrich, help where we can, mostly try and leave no footprint and share as we trespass during our brief journey)

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