Hawaii sucks

I’ve been avoiding this topic since I started this blog but I’m finally breaking down to gripe. And I’m sure I’ll get a lot of flames in the comments about this or any future posts I may have on the subject.

I hate Hawaii. I’ve lived here for over 2 1/2 years and I can’t wait to leave. Sure, the weather is nice but it really does get old after a while; I really miss having all four seasons. But apart from that, I can’t really find a lot of redeeming qualities about Hawaii.

Most of the people I’ve met in the past who enjoy Hawaii only came for a week or two to visit. If you never get out of the tourist areas, I’m sure it’s quite nice. Waikiki is clean (at least where the tourists go) and the beaches are nice over there. But once you leave the tourist areas, Honolulu is more like a ghetto. Many of the buildings are decrepit, there’s trash and graffiti all over, there’s a lot of homeless people, etc. Behind the facade of paradise is the gutter of real Hawaii.

The local government could care less about doing its job and corruption is rampant across the islands. Last year, 48 million gallons of raw sewage were dumped into the Ala Wai Canal (the demarcation between Waikiki and Honolulu proper). This canal goes straight into the beach area of Waikiki. In the 2+ years I’ve been here, there’s probably been more than eight sewage spills around Oahu, most of them into the canal.

The city waited three days or so before they posted signs after one of the spills and only did it after public outcry. The reason is because they didn’t want to scare the tourists. However, after the big Ala Wai spill, one man died from acquiring a flesh-eating bacteria infection after falling into the contaminated water. The city claims there was no connection between the infection and the release of sewage.

The latest problem is between go! airlines and Hawaiian. Hawaiian is trying to sue to have go! shutdown due to predatory pricing. go! currently charges ~$20 for a one-way trip to a neighbor island. Hawaiian feels it has to charge the same but, since Hawaiian has a larger infrastructure due to also supplying intercontinental flights, they simply can’t afford to compete locally. They also claim that go! used Hawaiian’s financial information illegally after gaining access to it during Hawaiian’s bankruptcy filings. So rather than competing on service or other things that may justify a higher price, Hawaiian is following the route of the music companies and trying to use the courts to prop up an outdated business model, or so it appears. Hawaiian has admitted that they will raise prices immediately to “market level” if go! is shut down.

There is a distinct racial bias against white people and, to an similar extent, black people too. But if you look “local”, you’re okay. I have friend who is Hispanic and was treated like a local when he went to a bar, even having people buy him drinks. But his white friends were given the cold shoulder, or at least not treated nearly as well. And Zeus forbid if you’re military.

The term “haolie” is used to distinguish white people from all others here. According to a dictionary I looked at, haolie means “foreigner”. But it’s definitely not used for all non-locals, only the white ones. And I’ve talked to several native Hawaiians who have stated that it actually means “soulless one”, implying that white people have no soul.

Speaking of language, since when is pidgin English considered a bona-fide language? It’s considered an unofficial language of Hawaii; they have dictionaries, books, and even classes on how to speak it. To me, I just think the speaker is a completely illiterate imbecile when I hear it. Seriously, it makes a person sound like a complete moron when he can’t speak in complete sentences. It’s worse than hearing people who have English as a second language; at least you know they’re trying to learn English.

I have a lot more to complain about but I’ll save it for later. But I know that I’m not alone in my distaste for Hawaii. Nearly every single military person I’ve met hates it here and can’t wait for orders out of here. As a matter of fact, there was one guy who cut his shore duty short and went back to sea because he couldn’t stand it.

Update: Since everyone seems to love commenting about this article (probably because of the title), I thought I’d make sure readers realize that there are other, related articles to this. Apparently relying on people to look at the sidebar for similar stories isn’t enough.

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In the last 2.5 years, have you ever been back at all? Maybe you’re just missing home?

Comment by J de Silva — October 2, 2007 @ 4:12 pm

As a matter of fact, we started to regret picking orders here within four months of arriving, so no, being homesick has nothing to do with it.

Comment by crystalattice — October 2, 2007 @ 6:46 pm

Hawaii is a sad waste of what could have been one of the most unusual places on earth. That is what is so irksome about Hawaii. The local culture, if you can call it a culture, is backward, corrupt and extremely racist. Pidgin and spam are celebrated as native culture when in fact they are reflections of the past exploitation of Hawaii. If you want to get a glimpse of real Hawaiian culture, go to the Polynesian Cultural Center on Oahu. While I have some sympathy for the dilemma of the original inhabitants of Hawaii, the vast majority of people who claim descendency from that lineage are really mostly Japanese. They are often smug and condescending to haolies. This is a horrible word that was applied to captives or slaves. It is essentially the equivalent of “nigger” and racially charged. While I lived in Hawaii there was an incident where a “non-Hawaiian” was admitted to Kameamea school. It reminded me of the situation in Birmingham Alabama when the first blacks were admitted. The streets were lined with protestors waving signs with “No Whites in Kameamea” and the like. When I pointed out that this was rampant racism, I was met with blank stares like I was out of my mind. Hawaii is a sick place. It could have been paradise.

Comment by Ono Da Kine — October 9, 2007 @ 11:54 am

Last time I heard, less than 5% of the Hawaiian population can claim to be native, and that’s at the generous amount of at least 1/8 native blood. However, there is no official policy about how much blood it takes to be “native”, so there are people claiming to be native when they have 1/64 native blood. The problem with many of the political structures is that they are geared towards a very small minority of “natives”, such as the Kameamea School.

The fight to bring back the Hawaiian monarchy, giving land back to the “natives”, et al. are all designed to make a select few people happy. The problem they feel to realize is that many of the problems were created by their ancestors. Heck, Hawaii becoming a state wouldn’t have happened if it wasn’t for the people here wanting it; they were perfectly able to remain a territory like Puerto Rico or Guam.

The culture here is one of victimization. No one is responsible for their actions or their circumstances and their xenophobia doesn’t help. University degrees from here are almost a joke when compared to other schools; I’ve talked to several military people who regret getting a degree from UH because it simply doesn’t compare to what they could have got from another school. Another student dropped out because he couldn’t understand the teacher. The instructor spoke pidgin in class and refused to enunciate in “real” English when asked.

Comment by crystalattice — October 9, 2007 @ 12:55 pm

It is always fascinating to me that the people who claim to be making the world a smarter place, don’t actually know that much about what they are talking about.

It is spelled haole, not haolie.

Perhaps you guys should just be thankful you have a homeland to go back to. Oh wait, that was stolen too. Nevermind.

Comment by MT — October 17, 2007 @ 12:26 am

Interesting. Out of everything I wrote about the only thing you can criticize me on is that I misspelled “haole”? So I guess everything else I wrote is correct, eh? Hmm, I think I’ll take that hit considering it’s not an English word and it’s not part of my vocabulary.

Plus, the way I spelled it is phonetic for people who may not know how to pronounce it. Otherwise they might think it’s pronounced “howl” or “howlay”.

Personally, I find that word to be racist. It’s the equivalent to calling a black person a nigger. I’m offended by it (and it takes a lot to offend me). Since it’s only used to refer to white people (especially when a white person is beat up), I consider that racism. But no one is ever prosecuted for a hate crime around here.

The other funny thing is, you say we “guys” (who is that directed at? White people?) have a homeland to go back to. I hate to tell you this, but Hawaii is a US state. This is just as much a part of the “homeland” as any other state. Take a look at the Dept. of Homeland Security; there isn’t a special caveat that gives Hawaii exemption from their services.

Being a US state couldn’t have happened without the local population voting for it. The people of Puerto Rico have had the opportunity many times to become a US state but every time they vote “No”. And the locals here certainly love the benefits of being part of the US.

This is the only state that has an Eisenhower Interstate System freeway that goes nowhere and doesn’t cross state lines. The H1, H2, and H3 were built as freeways so the state wouldn’t have to foot the bill; the federal government paid for them. And the economy would crash if the federal government pulled out of here, especially the military.

Everyone wants the military to leave but, boy, they sure put up a fight when the Navy considered closing down the Pearl Harbor Shipyard for incompetence. Last I read, federal installations on the islands employ 60% of the local population, not counting active duty military.

So, tell me again how I don’t know what I’m talking about.

Comment by crystalattice — October 17, 2007 @ 8:20 am

I agree! I hate Hawaii. I left there a few months ago after living in Oahu for 7 months. The first 4 weeks was fun but after that it got really boring. There is nothing to do other than the beach. And that got old real fast. Some of the people are nice but so stand-offish when they find out that your’e from the mainland. Hawaii may be part of the US but it feels like a foreign country.
The mentality of the people is so different from the the rest of the nation. Everyone is so complacent. Progress is slow and nothing really changes.
The news is a joke! I watch it for the comical factor. And as for the racism, I agree hawaii is racist. I am Asian and blend in with the people but once they found out that I was from the mainland or the States as I would say. The attitude changes.
There is so many things that I can gripe about Hawaii. But I just want to say that I’m glad to back in the US of A!!!

Comment by Chris — November 16, 2007 @ 9:15 am

The original meaning of haole does not necessarily stand today. In Hawaii, we don’t say white or caucasion, we say haole, period. In my mind, it just means white, doesn’t mean anything negative. The mere use of the word doesn’t make someone racist. If someone on the mainland describes someone as white, we don’t automatically call them a racist. Now, there are those individuals who throw haole in the middle of an already deragatory statement & that is not right & if I hear anyone do this, I call them on it. As for pidgin English, I grew up speaking pidgin and still do with close family and friends but in a business or international setting, I can more than put a proper sentence together - can easily switch back & forth. To say people who speak pidgin are imbeciles is close minded and really shows lack of any true effort to learn and understand some of the local culture in Hawaii. Hawaii is not the only place where there is local dialect that is sometimes difficult for those not familiar to fully understand, to assume those that speak differently from you are therefore less intelligent speaks volumes about your character. By the way, I am a hapa-haole but pull almost all haole in looks. I have a haole mother who was originally from the midwest (blue eyed, platinum blond) who would strongle disagree with the hateful comments about Hawaii. Yes, my mother and I have had some experiences with prejudice but those experiences are nothing compared to how my Japanese father is treated on certain areas of the mainland. My Chinese husband (US born & raised, works as a CFO) has actually had people yell at him “learn some English” just because he didn’t move out of an elevator quick enough in Vegas. In Napa, we couldn’t get service at a certain winery tasting and it was quite obvious it was because of his color of skin (dark). Prejudice is alive and well everywhere, just because there is some prejudice individuals in Hawaii, does not mean we are all horrible. Yes, there are social problems in Hawaii and areas of crime & drug. What big city doesn’t have social issues that need to be addressed?

Comment by michi — November 23, 2007 @ 11:33 pm

One more thing, I do agree with the comments about some of the untolerable things that have happened in Hawaii recently, including the sewage spills but I don’t agree means Hawaii residents don’t care. This incident was of serious concern to long time residents, not just those not originally from Hawaii. Just because things are not perfect does not mean no one cares or everyone is complacent. Was not mentioned that this happened during the over 40 days straight of heavy rains in 2006 and the infrastructure could not handle the highly unusual level of rains. Long time residents are paying close attention to how these issues & others addressed by the government. We do care.

Comment by michi — November 23, 2007 @ 11:49 pm

@michi: I never said the person speaking pidgin is an imbecile; s/he just comes across like that. Hawaii is a US state, therefore everyone knows that people living here learn English. Perception is reality; if you sound like an idiot, people will consider you an idiot. It’s no different than when someone has to swear every third word in a sentence; people consider that person to be un(der)educated because “educated” people don’t have to swear.

If you consider haole = white, than good for you. I don’t like the term and I consider it racist, especially considering the history associated with it. It’s no different than using the term “nigger” with black people; it’s not appropriate because of the negative connotations associated with it. Hence, “nigger” is not used in “polite circles”. Why can’t you just said “white”?

I don’t deny that racism is alive and well throughout parts of the US. Even if you’re white and traveling through Alabama, if you don’t look like you fit in you can get your butt beat. I would imagine that a lot of it in places like Vegas is because of tourists, both the people saying derogatory things and the ones who invite the comments. However, as you can see from other people’s comments here, Hawaii is pretty blatant about it.

When I go into a restaurant and the service is slow and surly to me but the locals get better service, then it’s pretty obvious that I’m being singled out. Granted, it’s not like being a black person in the South but it is noticeable. However, there are certain areas where white people simply shouldn’t go. I have friends who lived in Ewa Beach and they said that they, and other white people, wouldn’t walk around the neighborhood for fear (justified at times) of being beat up.

And regarding the 40 days of rain causing the sewage spill. The state has half a billion dollars in surplus right now, yet it continues to say it doesn’t have money for necessary infrastructure upkeep. There is a bridge across from my work that was torn down then left untouched, going on 2 years now. And the government admits that it hasn’t performed the necessary maintenance on the sewage system in 40 years. Sure, the local population may care about issues like this, but the government certainly doesn’t seem like it.

One example of government incompetence and (possibly) corruption: the light rail system. It’s taken what, 10-20 years for the government to finally decide on installing a commuter train? And when the final vote was made, the representative of the Salt Lake area refused to vote on it unless the train was moved from the airport to Salt Lake. Why? The airport is not only an obvious location for a train stop but it would encourage tourists to use it, hopefully reducing the number of rental vehicles on the already congested road system.

Rather than facing reality, the local leaders continue to fight these stupid political battles and the people continue to revote for them. The only reason Senator Akaka keeps getting voted in is because of his damn “Akaka Bill” yet if you look at his record he’s one of the more incompetent Senators in office.

My argument is that Hawaii isn’t the paradise that people think it is. In my personal experience, “aloha” simply means “f*ck you”. If you love living here, then more power to you. Personally I hate it, and I can’t wait to leave.

Remember, everything I’ve said is my personal opinion. You may not agree with it and, at times, I may not be fully informed. However, it is still my opinion and everyone is free to disagree with me.

Comment by crystalattice — November 24, 2007 @ 9:45 am

hawai does sucks, end of story

Comment by j — November 24, 2007 @ 7:55 pm

Hawaii sucks. I lived there for about one year. I was really into it at first. I was very open to the local culture and even accepted the way whites are referred to as haoles. But in the end, I realized that Hawaii sucks. The people there, well… some are very nice, smart, even friendly. But overall, it does suck.

Comment by Tom — December 14, 2007 @ 6:40 pm

I agree that Hawaii sucks. I couldn’t wait to get here, but now I think I’d rather go back to Iraq. The only clean places are the tourist spots or the military installations. Anywhere else it’s infested with homeless people, crime, trash, graffiti, and locals trying to fight white people. I’ve never been in a place where people can hate others so much just because of skin color, and I’ve seen my share of racism back home. And pidgin, learn to speak proper english. And so we stole Hawaii huh, that only shows how dumb you are. I love how most people hat whites, non-natives, and especially the military. But we seem to be the only ones really contributing to the community here.

Hawaii is a nice place for a vacation, but not to live. The midwest is the place to be. Every one is friendly, got all 4 seasons, things are reasonably priced, freedom of travel, and it’s generally cleaner with fewer bums.

Comment by RedLeg Hooah — December 15, 2007 @ 2:01 am

Hawaii is NOT paradise. The Aloha spirit is over-rated. Oahu is dirty and run down….it’s a green ghetto

Comment by Chris — December 20, 2007 @ 11:20 am

This disappoints me, you all talk so bad of hawaii but it’s like every where else. Pidgen is a language it’s Hawaiian Creole English, to be a creole it has to have grammar which it has, it has to be the first language of a generation, which it did, therefore being an official bonafide language. And whats this “oh they’re racist about that” “They’re racist about this” Yet the world is racist every single person in the world is racist against something so hypocrites how does that look on you? You think that we speak pidgen that we don’t know how to speak english? I think i’m speaking perfect english right now. It’s funny though, you criticize how we speak, yet when it comes to black people, they’re speaking perfect english right? Don’t criticize our way of speaking because you can’t cut down your words and have your sentence still be understandable.

Comment by ahem — January 2, 2008 @ 4:03 am

Love. Understanding. Patience. Tolerance. Compassion.
Are they possible?
Is it possible for us to rise above the injustice we feel and reach for something more?

Comment by JDogg — January 5, 2008 @ 8:06 pm

Well, I live in Hawaii, and as a black man, black racism is not as rampant as it is on the mainland. I guess since I have always been a minority, I’ve learnt to deal it. If you are not social in Hawaii then you can have a hard time living here. Also, if you think Honolulu is a true representation of Hawaii, then you are wrong. If you still live there, get out of Honolulu! That place sucks. Move towards the north, I find that people are alot nicer here.

Here’s a question, Do you have a new found respect for minorities on the mainland, since you know what it’s like to be a minority?

Comment by Aloha! — January 14, 2008 @ 11:21 am

I have a friend who is German. Her children are half-black and she wants to stay here because she says there is no racism towards the children like there was in Virginia.

My wife has a friend who was born here (parents were military). Even though she is technically Hawaiian by birth, she is still treated like crap because she looks white and no one respects her.

If I chose to live here voluntarily (outside the military) I would definitely live on the north side, between the North Shore and Kaneohe. It’s much, much prettier than the Honolulu side.

Do I have more respect now? I think I’ve always had respect for others. I will say that at least I don’t need to fear lynchings.

Comment by crystalattice — January 14, 2008 @ 12:26 pm

Okay, so you’re simply complaining that paradise isn’t paradise. Well, REALITY CHECK — not everything is what it will ever seem to be. You’re picturing a perfect paradise. I’ve only been here a year and already realize that even though not every place is perfectly clean and whatever but you seriously have to look at what you’re saying.. graffiti and all that crap — it’s not like Hawaii is the only place that has it — I’m pretty sure where you come from, you’ve seen all the same shit. I apologize for the language but I’m going to have to be quite frank about this. The island is the island and if you’re not cut out to get with it and you should just go back to where you’re from .. plain and simple.

Comment by Angel — January 18, 2008 @ 2:51 pm

Angel, obviously you haven’t read any of my other posts, nor have you read any of the comments from others who hate Hawaii.

As a US state, I simply expect better. Granted, I haven’t been to every state but I have been to quite a few, even living everywhere from the West Coast to the South. I’ve also visited several “third world” countries.

In my opinion, Hawaii has more in common with destitute countries than it does with most of America. This is the only place I’ve been in the US where the schools don’t have central HVAC; each classroom has a window AC unit, if it’s lucky.

Not only that, but a friend told us about her PTA group raising enough money to install AC units in every classroom. After they gave the money to the school, the school turned around and purchased AC units for the admin offices, not the classrooms like they were supposed to. The principal also tried everything in her power to milk the PTA for money that directly affected her office and not the school.

In related news, UH is literally falling apart. The electrical wiring is the same that was installed in the 1930s, the coach’s office has been half finished for several years, buildings don’t meet safety codes, etc. However, as soon as the football coach said he was moving to SMU because of the deplorable conditions (plus a much larger paycheck), the school decides that maybe they should actually do something about the conditions. The #1 priority of the state legislature when it started the new term was to get money for the school, though I can think of a few other things that should take priority, such as fixing the EPA violations of the sewage plants.

No, Hawaii isn’t alone in its faults. However, the people here seem to think they’re sh*t don’t stink and I’m simply saying that, indeed it does.

Comment by crystalattice — January 22, 2008 @ 8:26 am

Hawaii sucks, people here are rude, illiterate, corrupt and stupid.

Thats it and thats all

Comment by jackhauss — January 27, 2008 @ 11:02 am

I can’t believe the ignorance and flat out stupidity that I’m reading, as I came across this forum. It’s obvious to me hardly anyone even bothered to look up the history of Hawaii to learn why non-white people are so mistrustful of Caucasians.

The Hawaiian’s did get tricked out of their land and their kingdom that’s common knowledge but did you think that Asians that have been there for generations came there skipping and hopping into the welcoming arms of the plantations? Yeah right. They were recruited with in thier native countries with lies of riches by the white plantation owners who then put them in the holds of boats in the worst conditions imaginable then put to work on plantations as slaves. They pretended to pay them but all money paid had to be spent at plantation stores with high prices and bad quality, why the hell do you think we learned to love spam.

Pidgin comes from all of the plantation people trying to communicate with each other despite being segregated by race.

The plantation workers changed their lives slowly by organizing unions to free themselves from servitude. Many Japanese Americans were sent to camps during WWII and while their families were in those camps young men went to fight for the US and became the most dedicated and decorated fighting units in that war. Many of the Hawaii born young men of all races that fought in WWII went to collage on the GI bill, ask Sen. Daniel Inouye who paid the price with one of his arms.

Don’t you know that white was right in the early days of Hawaii and everyone else was considered animals by them? They hung young men falsely accused of rape, they whipped, tortured and killed plantation workers when they tried to run away or just on a whim. How would you feel if you came from that?

By the way Haole means “no breath” because the Hawaiians thought Capt. Cook was a god and when they killed him they were shocked to find that he had no breath. Look it up…Ha=breath ole means none. Instead of bitching look it up first.

By the way I’m half white half Korean and 4th generation Hawaii born, I now live in Las Vegas and I think that many mainland whites have no manners, no respect for thier elders or even thier own cultures. You guys tell your mothers to “Bite me” and act like privlidged brats as a matter of fact that’s why some of you are having tantrums because you went to Hawaii and didn’t get treated like the royal brats that your mommies told you you were. Your used to a level of favortism and when you are on a more level playing feild you whine, now go apoligize to all the minorities that you treated like that on the mailand because you finally know how it feels.

Lori

Comment by Lori — February 4, 2008 @ 7:07 pm

AAMOF, I have researched Hawaiian history. However, I used resources that aren’t biased by Hawaiians, unlike much of the material that is put forth in Hawaiian schools. Based on your comments, I assume you were raised here and attended the local schools. I feel sorry for you, I really do. I’ve known too many children that are essentially brainwashed by the education system. Plus they are consistently at the bottom of the class when they transfer back to the mainland, even if they were top of the class here.

Much of what people bitch about was a result of the British, not the US. Yes, some bad things happened but you can’t blame it all on America. Hell, if the white people are so damn evil, why does Hawaii still have the Union Jack as part of its flag? And why does it have the stripes of the US flag?

The plantation workers were no different than what happened with Southern slavery. It doesn’t make it right but it also means Hawaii doesn’t have the market on poor treatment. In case you didn’t know, the AmerIndians had it just as bad, if not worse. Not only were they pushed off their land and their treaties broken, but they were made slaves long before Europeans brought the blacks over for slavery. Actually, the reason the black trade started was because the Indians kept escaping; the colonists moved many AmerIndians to the Caribbean to keep them from escaping, and it still didn’t work. Hence, they imported blacks.

And the black communities on the coast of Africa were the ones selling the slaves to the white people. Many of the people there were taking slaves during their wars; they realized they could make good money by selling their slaves to white traders.

The same thing happened during the gold and silver rushes of the 19th century. Why do you think there are so many Chinatowns in American cities? So again, your griping about the plantations is relatively meaningless in terms of American and world history.

Oh, and by the way, Spam was created in 1937, just before WWII. You make it sound like it was being used at the turn of the century when the plantations were full swing. I imagine that life was quite a bit better for people in the ’30s.

Why would pidgin develop based on English? If many of the people came from East Asia, wouldn’t it make sense that they would have a hybrid Asian language? I wasn’t around then, and neither was anyone else nowadays, so none of us know the true story. Regardless, just because it was used back then doesn’t mean it should still be in use now. Sure, Creole and other hybrid languages are still found in the backwoods of America, but they are slowly dieing and aren’t considered a “real” language by many people. They don’t have dictionaries, bibles, or other books printed in them. They aren’t taught in schools or used in official capacities. They are something “ignorant redneck hillbillies” use because they are uneducated, or at least that is the impression people have.

You comment about WWII. What’s your point? Patriotism is almost a guaranteed thing when your home is bombed. After Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, it would be weird if you *didn’t* sign up. The same thing happened after 9/11.

“White was right”. Again, Hawaii doesn’t have the market at abuse. The AmerIndians, blacks, and other slave races have suffered the same, if not worse. Hell, even the Irish (predominately white people) were ostracized when they immigrated. Nearly all gangs in existence developed as a way to keep minorities (of all races) from being abused by others.

Bitching about it doesn’t make the facts change. Hawaii doesn’t have a monopoly on suffering.

I don’t think anyone knows what haole really means anymore. According to Wikipedia, it simply means foreigner, though it could mean Caucasian. According to some entymologists, haole *does not* mean “no breath”. So don’t accuse me of not knowing what I’m talking about; even the experts can’t agree on what it really means.

But you know what? I don’t care what the “true” meaning of haole is. It’s used too often in a derogatory fashion. Every time a white person is assaulted or verbally abused, “haole” is always mentioned. The connotation is the exact same as using “nigger” in the South. Why is it so hard to say “white”? Hawaii is a US state and English is still a required class.

Even though you’re half white you don’t feel any affinity for it, do you? Anyone who is the least bit dark-skinned or Asian looking is welcome in Hawaii. The prejudice only applies to European looking people, regardless of whether or not they were born in Hawaii. Because you were born here, you feel you’re Hawaiian, not American; that’s the impression I get. People around the world have clamored for decades to come to America yet Hawaii is fighting to leave. Weird.

I don’t know where you get your racial bias from but it certainly sounds like it comes from popular media. People from any racial background can show disrespect. Very few whites are disrespectful to their parents; much of that has to do with upbringing, not race.

Yeah, every white person coming to Hawaii wants to be treated like royalty, because that’s exactly how we’re treated everywhere else. Where else have you been? Even whites are treated like crap at times. Ever been to the South? How about some of the small cities of the Midwest or along the Rockies? There’s a reason “poor white trash” is in the vernacular. I’ve lived in just about every region of the US so I do know what I’m talking about. Heck, even my in-laws have been called white trash.

Hawaii is not a “level playing field”, especially if you’re white *and* military. If it wasn’t for federal money, this place would be considered a third-world vacation spot. Tourists bring in a lot of money but if they don’t come, what else is there? There is no industry here to speak of, the plantations are shutting down, farms are going out of business, and few (if any) big companies move here. The military bases and government jobs are pretty much the only things that can be relied upon for income.

I really love the bumper stickers that say, “Tourists go home, but leave your wallet.” That’s exactly the mentality of many of the people I’ve met. They want the islands returned to “them” and to reinstall the monarchy but they don’t want to give up on the federal money. As I said in my post about the monarchy, people don’t realize just how different it was between the aristocracy and the populous.

Out of curiosity, if Hawaii is so great, why are you living in Las Vegas? That’s the white man’s “den of sin”. From your line of thought, people are being exploited by the “white man” casinos and being robbed of their hard earned money. And since Las Vegas is the prime destination form many Hawaiians so they can gamble, it’s just a perpetuation of the “white devil slave masters”.

Finally, how dare you accuse me of being racist and treating minorities like trash. You know nothing about me, you don’t know my history, nor do you know how I treat people. Hell, you don’t even know if I’m a minority myself. My ancestors could have been slaves. I may be white but it doesn’t mean I don’t know oppression. It also doesn’t mean I don’t participate in affirmative action or equal rights groups.

Have you looked at any other of my blog posts? Have you seen the links and research I’ve found? Just because I don’t love Hawaii like you do doesn’t mean I don’t have a basis for my opinions.

I realize that you and nearly everyone else who comments here will never return. You’re just drive-by with your opinions and don’t wish to have a true dialog. That’s fine. I have my opinion and you have yours. In my opinion, I can’t wait to leave Hawaii, I wish I wasn’t forced to come here by the military, and I hope I never have to come back. I’m not the only one who thinks this but few people are willing to discuss it for fear of being flamed or labeled a racist.

You know nothing about me apart from my blog yet you feel that it’s enough to judge me. Who’s being judgmental now?

Comment by crystalattice — February 5, 2008 @ 9:18 am

Visiting Hawaii, I’ve noticed the same hatred against white people.I was to hand in a rental car receipt to the lot person on which i neglected to initial and he remarked, “you initial fuckin haole”. “Haole”. It doesn’t matter what it means, it matters how you mean it. Face it. Nigger=bad. Haole= bad. Spick=bad. And so on. If they want to talk pidgin, so what. But if i want to talk English don’t judge me! You would think a college professor would speak and teach proper English in school.(If i payed my good tax money to pay his salary I would want my child to learn how to articulate.)Knowledge = Money and success.On another note ,As previously stated, “there are very little true blood natives”. Also true: economy would crash without U.S. government money! (from military or otherwise).And i got to laugh. The above paragraphs state, “…well the south or the mainland is no better”. Probably true. But IT AIN’T OK to talk to people like that no matter where you are from. Appreciate your life and be kind to all. Life goes by fast and in the end we all have to answer for our actions.

Comment by predjudice not — February 5, 2008 @ 3:23 pm

all i’ve got to say is:
black is beautiful
tan is grand
but white is the color of the big bossman

Comment by mwats — February 5, 2008 @ 9:11 pm

Ha! I always come back when it’s this good.

you have everything twisted.

1.I was told what haole meant by a trask and if you’ve lived there any length of time you know what that means. By the way if you look op the words in the Hawaiian dictionary split the way I told you to then you would get those meanings.

2. I look mixed but my looks lean more on my white side. As a matter of fact my mixed hawaiian asian white husband and i have a blonde blue eyed son who is whiter that most whites and never had a problem in honolulu he’s 16 now we left when he was 14 and he went to school in kalihi.

3. Spam is meat that is like other canned meat and the plantations were in full swing in the 30’s

4.The whites are more disrespectful to thier parents I know because I’m a teacher not because I watch TV.

5.I did fine in both hawaii and mainland collage thank you.

6.My grandmother was a picture bride and I took plantation history in collage given by a white professor.

7.why do you mainland whites always use white trash to prove your point they choose to look and act that way, nobody can change skin color.

8.Not all the plantation workers were from asia, some were form scandinavia, pourtugal and many other countries. Everyone had to learn a common langauge and that was english.There are many asian words mixed into pidgin. Of course the euro races where higher up and where lunas or bosses.

Why did I leave? because the home prices are too high and there are a lot of people from my home state living here we call it the ninth island.

It was an American oligharcy that held power in hawaii for 50 years did you skip that part? You know the Big 5 Bishop, Baldwin, Campbell and such? They decided to tie themselves to the US and not any other country.

The Hawaiian flag looks the way it does because in the past, some royal Hawaiians wanted Hawaii to become British allies instead of American and the flag just stuck.

Big Five:

For decades, Hawaii’s economy was dominated by a handful of companies that controlled the sugar industry and associated businesses. Commonly referred to as the Big Five, four of them had gotten their start during the heyday of the whaling fleet. Most were founded by missionaries, or the sons of missionaries, and even into the 1930s, all had direct descendents of missionaries on their boards of directors. Their economic power translated into political power as well, and politics and business in the Islands continue an intricate cross-pollination. Edward P. Dole, Attorney General of Hawai`i, wrote in 1903: “There is a government in this Territory which is centralized to an extent unknown in the United States, and probably almost as much centralized as it was in France under Louis XIV.” That centralization is still evident today. While union organization, falling sugar prices, and the ascendancy of the Democratic Party diminished the Big Five’s influence, their years of dominance profoundly shaped how life in the Islands is lived

(http://hawaiihistory.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=ig.page&PageID=29)

breath Ha

none ‘a’ohe mean, ‘a’ohe, ‘a’ole (http://fm.hisurf.com/hawaiian/dictionary.taf?_function=list&_start=1)

Oh and I forgot to mention the sewer thing. Yeah that was because the prev. Mayor who was white by the way, didn’t maintain anything that wasn’t where he felt affected people he thought important. The new mayor had the choice of letting it back into homes or letting it out into the ocean, would you rather have had it in your house?

AND Haole is in no way shape or form the same as the word nigger, the latter word is the word that so many blacks heard before they where murdered or whipped by whites. We have a hawaiian word for black also but I don’t here them bitching.

Your white deal with it, 20 percent of Hawaii is white maybe you need to go look for them, they mostly live in Kahala, Hawaii Kai and Kailua they own everything and they like to shop at Kahala Mall. If your race hates hawaii so much then why do YOU keep moving there?

As for drugs and homelessness, hey they didn’t invent meth in Hawaii, that’s a natzi drug from WWII also, yeah they gave it to the japanese so don’t even go there. Rent and housing is too high for most locals to afford, even with a double income.

You act like there are no locals in the armed forces, my step daughter and my sister are airforce my brother is in the coast guard they were all born a raised in hawaii. I don’t hate them, I don’t hate haole’s I don’t think that anyone deserves crimes committed against them but you have to respect the culture and know what you are dealing with when you come accross the local people most of whom are actully nice, sounds like you didn’t even try.

There are reasons for everything you just don’t want to accept those reasons.

Comment by Lori — February 5, 2008 @ 9:23 pm

Oligarchy….. sorry I see all my typos got caught in the rant you know

Comment by Lori — February 5, 2008 @ 9:34 pm

Personally, I moved here because I was forced to by the Navy; it wasn’t my choice. As to why other people move here, I don’t know because I can’t speak for them.

I’m perfectly aware that “locals” are in the Armed Forces; I see them all the time at the Navy Exchange. I’ve met a few in my time in the Navy. Some of them have complained about Hawaii while others rave about it. To each his own.

I have my opinion, you have yours, and everyone else has theirs. You certainly seem to hate me, but that’s fine. I subscribe to the “How to Make Enemies and Alienate People” newsletter. My work here is done.

Comment by crystalattice — February 6, 2008 @ 7:27 am

I don’t hate you. There is no work done if you still hate. You could say you don’t like living there becuase you feel that you’ve been wronged by some people or felt that you’ve been treated unfairly or because you just don’t like the weather I would have been fine with that.

It was strange to me that you attached your hatred to the entire state and all it’s people and everything that is unique about hawaii while jumping to all kinds of conclusions. Do you also hate Puerto Rico?, Guam? AM. Samoa? Guam could become a state someday do you think that they will morph into califonia as soon as they do?

The military must need Hawaii for something or they would be gone, they sent you there so they must need you also.

I wasn’t looking for people who hate hawaii I was looking for the weather report because one of my friends said it was raining there. I’m sorry that you hate it. I miss the beach more than anything there are no clean/warm beaches in the mainland with any decent waves.

Aloha, Lori

Comment by Lori — February 6, 2008 @ 6:08 pm

@mwatts-Though I consider your comment racist, you’ll notice that I did not censor it. I may not agree with your opinion but it is your right to say it (though technically I could have deleted it and told you to make your own blog if you want to bitch).

If you have a problem with the way things are, get off your ass and do something about it. Get an education, vote for an alternative, get a promotion, or just plain move. Bitching and whining won’t solve anything.

@Lori-I have many personal issues living here. Drivers think it’s okay to cut people off if they stick their hand out the window to give a “shaka”; they don’t know what turn signals are, they rarely look in the mirror, and they wait until the absolute last second to merge. The excise tax is applied to everything, not just retail sales, so the effective tax rate here (last time I heard) is on the order of 50%, all things included. Weekly water main breaks cause detours and massive traffic jams; it doesn’t help that there are effectively three main routes from east to west on the island. You never see cops outside the tourist areas unless they are “assisting” with road work; if you do see them, they usually break traffic laws because they can. DOT projects are left idle or conducted at the worst times, causing huge traffic snarls. Sanitary sewers are not storm drains, hence they shouldn’t overflow when it rains; blaming it on the last white mayor is a cop-out because the current mayor has been in office for at least two terms.

I don’t have the time to list all my gripes here; suffice to say that reading the Honolulu Advertiser should provide an idea of what issues I have. Yes, problems like this exist everywhere but this is the worst, by far, of any place I’ve lived.

I could go on and on but I won’t. I’m tired of it. I never realized why so many military people avoided coming here and why they make jokes about being stationed here. I leave in five months and I won’t look back. The Aloha spirit is BS; from what I’ve seen, Aloha=f*** you, unless you have tourist dollars.

Comment by crystalattice — February 7, 2008 @ 7:12 am

You are trying to over intellectualize something that is very easy to explain. Some people, regardless of ethnicity, like to blame others for their own problems and have been manipulated into believing that they cannot exceed in life. So they find easy targets to blame for their anger, in this case, the white people in Hawaii. However, I’ve got news for them: It’s not the white folks holding them back, it’s their own attitude(s).

Cultural differences are real, and need to be acknowledged, however, using these differences to divide isn’t a healthy life-choice. Much of the early success of the United States can be contributed to our rich multi-cultural history that fostered an environment of innovation and creativity . . .many cultures coming together, sharing ideals and ideas. If the “Native Hawaiians” want to sit around and bitch about how whites have fucked-up everything, I would argue that having only to worry about what to load into your Ipod is better than dealing with cannibalism.

I feel that personal success is based upon hard work, and choosing to control your own destiny. Success brings with it self-confidence. Life is too short, and Hawaii too small to waste time worrying about someone’s skin color, and what happened a 100 years ago. In the late 1800’s, the British kicked the shit out of my ancesters, took their Irish land and left them to die. Today, we don’t sit around the dinner table, bitch and whine about what happened. Life is short, move on.

Comment by mwatts — February 7, 2008 @ 8:51 am

@mwatts-I apologize for my comments. Based on your first comment, I thought you were being racist against whites. I didn’t realize what you actually meant.

I agree with you whole-heartedly. The past is the past; it’s over and done with. The best thing to do is make sure history doesn’t repeat itself.

Comment by crystalattice — February 7, 2008 @ 9:45 am

FWIW, ZeroShibai has interesting articles about Hawaiian issues, written by locals. They can be quite humorous or offensive, if that’s your way. Either way, the site is a near perfect representation of how I feel. So there! :P

Comment by crystalattice — February 13, 2008 @ 1:01 pm

I checked out the link and it’s hilarious! The islands are run like a 3rd world country! I love the weather, the local food and the beautiful natural landscape….but that alone doesn’t make it a paradise that the locals make it out to be.
People work 2-3 jobs just to survive, horrible school system, heavy crystal meth use, homeless families on the beach, lack of progress, hatred towards anyone who wasn’t born in Hawaii, people don’t know how to drive or how to cross the street are just a few of my gripes. Again, it’s not paradise…it not the Utopia that everyone on the islands think it is.

Comment by Chris — February 19, 2008 @ 2:48 pm

…crap, we’re going to be stationed there after we’re done with DLI. And I thought Monterey sucked donkey testicles. I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I MIS DC! Thanks for the heads up.

Comment by Jerry — February 22, 2008 @ 12:37 pm

I checked your blog, the comments and although I feel that you are a bit extreme, I have to agree that things in Hawaii are backwards. I have lived here for over a year and this is what I can share. When I first moved here, I did see that ICE or Crystal Meth was a huge problem. I talked to some people and realized that most seem to ignore the problem. No one really care to do anything about it, and the police is of no help. The “Haole” word means white or foreigner, but I agree that it is used in a racist manner. People can always claim that they were just referring to someone that is white or not local, but the sentiment is there. Locals are not welcoming to foreigners or white. And yes, there is a very small part of the population that can be considered Hawaiian, but a lot of people that were born here feel that they own this land. Now, I understand resentment, I understand that the locals may feel that they lost their land, but if only they were educated and knew their own history, they would know that no one took over their land, their government at the time asked for help, they wanted the commercial and military presence of the US. Now, if your government sold your land and you as a people did not intervene, get over it and understand that your jobs, your living is dependent on tourism and the Haoles that bring money to this island. Now, you may say that this racism only happens to white people. I look local, I opened myself to the local culture and I have tried to do things to help the local community. I moved my girlfriend and my 2 year old son here after a couple of months at the new job. We rented an apartment. We discovered the second big problem in Hawaii. Domestic Violence… Ignorance = domestic violence…
Within a week from moving in, we had to call 911 as we witnessed a woman being beaten by her husband. I’m talking punches and kicks. All the neighbors were there and no one did anything to help. I jumped in and stopped the fight. We moved out. We rented a house. 2 months later, the latest Kailua murder. A woman was beaten with the back of a rifle to death a block away from my house. Domestic violence is on the rise…
But no matter what, we decided to give Hawaii another chance. A week ago… My son was sick. Around 11:00 p.m. I went outside and asked this 8 year old kid to go ask his drunk uncle to turn down the radio so I could put my son in his bed. He had been sleeping with us, because we couldn’t put him in his room. The kid replied that his uncle was passed out. No sleep. The next day, I saw the UNCLE walking by. I asked him politely if he could keep his music down because my son was sick. His reply: You f-ing Haole, you come here and all you do is complaint.. I will move you out of here. You f-ing haole. I’m hawaiian. What the fcuk are you? I will make you move out. Your wife and kid are here alone during the week… I’ll make you move.
Now, we moved there 4 months ago. We never complained about anything. We had plenty to complain about, but we never did. We bought books for their kids, we read books to their kids and let our son play with their kids. Now, I don’t blame any of this on the people here, I blame this corrupt system and the big powerhouse of the Hawaii Visitors & Conventions Bureau, FHB and Bank of Hawaii and all the big resorts who instead of giving back to the community, are concerned in doing an ad campaign to teach locals only that tourism is important for the island, but what are they really doing to keep the kids out of ICE, the parents out of abusing their kids and helping the people of hawaii to have an education and the basic needs to handle life. True that the locals are ignorant and that Aloha is nothing but a marketing campaign at this point, but I do believe that the aloha spirit was killed by those in power and the destruction of this people is not due to the HAOLE but of the people themselves who ignore the problem and don’t fight this corrupt government and corrupt police

Comment by Ben — February 27, 2008 @ 4:44 pm

Same here, I pretty much dislike Hawaii. Once I leave from here, I sure won’t be coming back. Just not my kind of place, it was alright for maybe the first month or so I was here but now it’s just boring. The weather is all the same, only places to really go are the beach, the downtown area is just so full of tourists.

I have noticed that once you leave Honolulu, it basically looks like my neighborhood back in Chicago (which I love) but I never would have expected it out here. I thought this place was supposed to be a “paradise”. I haven’t really looked into many of the other problems that you mention but it’s opened my eyes more. I already got my taste of discrimination against whites and the military over here but I live with it. The pidgin or whatever it’s called doesn’t bother me much, I’ve grown up around many different languages and cultures and such that I don’t care about it.

Maybe it is just homesickness or whatever, but I can’t stand this place. I would much more prefer Alaska, the cold weather and the wilderness is what I love. Hawaii is just not my place probably.

Comment by Butta — March 19, 2008 @ 10:45 am

The seeds of ignorance.

Comment by hmmmm — March 28, 2008 @ 10:27 pm

This was probably in the top 10 best blog posts that I have ever read. I have lived in Honolulu for nearly a year and I can’t wait to leave. I was trying to look up different sayings or pictures about Hawaii and how horrible of a place it is when this came up and I just had to read it. Great job.

I’ve heard that most people from the mainland don’t like living in Hawaii but its especially prevalent in those from the South. Apparently Southern Charm has the upper hand on “Aloha.” My friends back home don’t understand what would ever make me want to leave “Paradise”. Next time I’m asked that I’ll send them directly to this link. The only thing that would make it better is a local “speaking” pidgin so they would grasp the horrible frustration I have with it. (I still don’t understand how it can be called a language when all it is is really horrible English.) When people say that a Southern Accent makes someone sound unintelligent- now I know its only because they haven’t heard a local talk in Hawaii.

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well… a couple things…first i love this post. your first entry really hits it over here in hawaii. i live on oahu and am a military spouse, and let me tell you me and my friends have encountered many moments of what i would call racisim. just the other week a friend of mine got jumped by 4 local guys because he is military. it is absurd. i cant wait to get back home to the mainland. and secondly, someone mentioned about racisim in the south, i am from the south and the amount of racisim there is the same as anywhere else…in fact where i am from i would say it is less than in other areas. and i live in the “deep south”

Comment by sara — April 7, 2008 @ 9:07 pm

I agree! I just returned from my first trip to Hawaii - a two-week vacation to Oahu and the Big Island - and I was so disappointed. What do people see in this dump!? There is nothing on these islands but ramshackled houses and odd people. Honolulu is a ghetto. Hilo is a dump. The rest of the islands are B-O-R-I-N-G!!! I traveled halfway across the globe for these piles of crap… Never again!

Comment by Paul — April 15, 2008 @ 6:04 am

It was interesting for me to read the way Hawaii is percieved after moving here from NYC metro area,living here for 10 years, moving to Oregon for 7 and then returning here for the last 7.
I understand both sides of the comments but need to say that the views are in the extreme. Hawaii has many problems brought on by their own government today. I see more prejudice today due to overcrowding, over development to the benifit of the very wealthy and race being blamed from both sides, the poor school system, cost of living,drug problem and so on. The blame goes to the minority regardless of where you live and whites are stereo typed due to the rude behavior of many of the tourists demanding service from what they percieve dark skin as less then. The hate goes back and forth and is getting worse due to economics and the overall acceptance of violence everywhere.
As a New Yorker, I could care less about the ignorance coming toward me as it’s a true indicator of someone who judges by stereotype and not individual analysis. This is something we all need to do if we are to get ahead of this racial hurt and bitterness. It can be done and I have passed it, being white, by understanding and treating anyone and culture with respect. People get it across the color lines everywhere. My husband in Chinese and because I am half Italian/Irish, my son looks like a mix of the world and is beautiful. But he was treated horrifically by whites in Oregon,not in NJ or NYC, and not in San Francisco and not in Hawaii. He pulls from both of us but people don’t know what he is as the asian is diluted in the facial features. What is interesting to me is that I and my husband have taught him to protect himself but to not close his mind based on his experiences of hurt. Because his friends and family are a mix of everything, he can not judge a person based on his color or religion or financial standing in the world. Having said this and after living in different parts of the world myself, I have to say that when a white person has a continuous negative experience in Hawaii, they have not gone past their own prejudice and fears themselves. Yes, there are really stupid people here, amazing in their ignorance, but I find this to be true everywhere. If anything, I find Hawaii to be more open to different colors on average as they have it in their own families. The stupid people are in every culture, race, country… Be respectful to one another and look beyond and learn about anothers background in life. You never know the story and it will enrich your life. Become a beacon of kindness and peace. As corny as that sounds, if we don’t start doing this and keep the seperate camp thinking up, we will destroy what is possible to learn. This is important for all of us to do and I speak from a place of knowing both sides and why both sides speak of hate toward the other. The one thing I must say to Hawaii locals though, is that there needs to be more accountability from your government here to you in all areas of need; schools, roads, cost of living, displacement of people, drugs, crime etc. There is more that can be done when people as a group speak up and demand a quality of life from those that are supposed to be doing so. This is a culture where respect for those in positions of power can be defeating to yourself. Look at the North Shore and what people are fighting for and the park in Kakaako. This is important to know that these people are voted in to serve you and your needs.They can be voted out as well.This is why there are so many problems here and whites are the scapegoat. Whites are not the government here,so get your voice heard to do something to change what is happening to Hawaii. The older generation of real estate owners, and they are all colors here, need to realize how they are contributing to the problems for the younger people as well,by charging outrageous rents and sale prices that were not so when they bought as price percent of salary. We need more resonsive community involvement if we want a future home, with jobs and livability for our children. I love Hawaii for all it’s problems because the people are wonderful and warm. That has been my experience. And for those that are messed up, well, you must get street smart and know that this is the world, the problems here are all over. Perhaps as a white person experiencing prejudice for the first time, you can learn what others go through and how ugly and evil it truly is coming at you. Take that lesson with you and do something kind to an outsider the next time you are in the position, that’s the information you can take with you. And local people here, need to be less closed to thinking that all whites are the stereotype idiots looking down on you, it’s not true.

Comment by Anna — April 16, 2008 @ 7:10 am

When I first moved to Hawaii long ago (early 1980’s) I ended up with the same views as most of you after living here for a year or two. But after living here for a while longer I realized that my views were wrong. The problem wasn’t Hawaii or the local people, it was me. The fact that I was a minority made me feel different, and that a few people seemed to treat me with contempt because of my race made me paranoid about how all the locals viewed me and treated me. Even though I thought I wasn’t the least bit racist I realized that I was in fact racist when I looked closely at how I expected people to act or react based upon what they looked like. I really stand out here, I am very white and blond with blue eyes so I do not blend in and look local even though I am not. Sure there are problems with the government, but that is true everywhere. Sure there are problems with schools, but that is true of everywhere. When you are paranoid and racist the people who you fear and look down upon canusually pick up on the fact that you are not comfortable with them, then they become uncomfortable with you. All I can tell you people is that local people are mostly wonderful people who are quick to give you their close friendship. To claim that Honolulu is like some crummy dirty mainland city after you get away from Waikiki just proves how distorted your vision has become due to your paranoia. I have lived in or visited L.A, San Francisco, San Diego, Albequerque, Phoenix, Salt Lake City, St. Louis, Denver, Miami, Cleveland, Chicago, New York City, Boston, Washington D.C., Dallas, Houston, Austin, New Orleans, Toronto, etc. None of them are as clean or as nice as Honolulu. Many of them may have more things to do due to their much larger metropolitan populations and access to the rest of the mainland, but Honolulu is still much nicer. Where else can you be downtown and then 10 minutes later be under a waterfall or at a beautiful beach? Maybe you guys need to get out more? Chinatown is the only rundown area, even then it is not really run down at all compared to large mainland cities rundown areas and has a certain charm to it. Even then what about the rest of Hawaii? Have you spent time on Maui or Kauai? I have lived on all the major islands and to say that Hawaii sucks will have the wealthiest people in the world who own homes and spend lots of time here on Maui and on Kauai and in Kona laughing at you as a paranoid racist. This is God’s country, it’s heavenly, if you can’t accept God’s family as your brothers and sisters then God will make you want to leave. It’s really as simple as that. You local people know what I mean.

Comment by Rastaman vibration — April 17, 2008 @ 11:46 pm

Check yourself man. Who the hell are you to criticize what we do hear in Hawaii? If you don’t like it…leave! Simple…and easy for you ignorant haoles to understand eh? You don’t know about the overthrow of our monarchy and the imprisonment of our Queen. So what if our neighborhoods are rundown…so what if we’re racist to haoles…so what if we speak pidgin…it’s part of our culture and it’s what you as ‘westerners’ have created by forcing our Hawaiian people to conform to foreign ways. Don’t act like you know what being Hawaiian is all about…cuz you don’t. I love being Hawaiian and i don’t mind cutting down haoles like you because when you come here and experience our unique culture, you don’t start becoming disrespectful to our culture and our traditions because it’s our right to these kinds of things. What if you were Japanese or some other religion and i came over there to your house and started dissing everything about Japan and saying Japan sucks??? How would you feel you ignorant, self-centered, egotistical punk? So to wrap up my comment, Either put up….or SHUT UP.

Comment by ha-Y-n4Life — April 19, 2008 @ 2:24 pm

The only thing I will say is that I’m glad to see you’ve proven my, and many others’, points. Good job! I’m glad to see that Hawaii is full of tolerance and love for everyone and racism doesn’t exist.

Comment by crystalattice — April 19, 2008 @ 4:06 pm

bra u kno what. screw you. i can talk properly….but i’m choosin not to. your website is full of crap and i’ve actually decided to do a paper on you self-centered haoles like yourself who don’t understand our Hawaiian culture and the love we show to people who RESPECT what and who we are as a people and our history. It’s people like you that remind me why i hate haoles so much… cuz you guys don’t give a shit as long as you guys can put out money and get whatever you guys want handed on a silver platter, no matter who you step on to get there. I suggest you fricken change your attitude…otherwise they’ll be a lot more comments ready to criticize your haole ass :)

Comment by ha-Y-n4Life — April 20, 2008 @ 10:43 am

You know, I wasn’t going to respond to comments anymore but I’ll play your game. The only question is whether or not to crawl down to your level or not.

If you can “talk properly”, why don’t you? That’s why people think you’re ignorant and stupid. You’re not proving anything different.

We’re self-centered, huh? Hello pot, this is the kettle: You’re black! (Can you figure out that reference?) Guess what? I give people the benefit of the doubt and expect the same in return. This is the first place I’ve been where people give me the hairy eyeball simply because I’m not dark-skinned or because I’m military. Have you read any of the other comments here? I’m not the only one who has a problem. Have you read any of my other posts? Hell, do you read the newspapers? Hawaii has a history of incompetence and intolerance, contrary to how people respond to my post.

I had no hostile feelings about Hawaii before I came here. I give respect to everyone and every culture I’ve been around. I’ve traveled and lived in many different areas and even other countries. This is the first place where what people say and how they act towards “outsiders” is so blatantly different.

What have I done to you personally? Why do you hate me so much? Do you judge all white people the same or do you reserve judgement until you get to know them?

Hawaii is a US state. It couldn’t have gotten there without the locals voting for it; they clamored for decades to be admitted. Why do you think it would be better under a monarchy? You currently have a democratic-republic system of government where you can voice your opinion at the ballot box. Under a monarchy it’s the rule of imperial fiat and you have to suck it up, even if you don’t agree with it.

If that’s what you want, I personally don’t have a problem with it. People can live how they want and have whatever government they want. How about this? You can have your Hawaiian monarchy back but you have to give up everything that came from Westerners. That means you lose all paved roads (especially the H1, H2, and H3 established under the Eisenhower Interstate Highway System), all Western-style houses, all petroleum-powered engines and associated vehicles, and so on. The military bases go away along with the Navy shipyard. The Arizona simply becomes off-limits to visitors. The only thing you get is what the islands had before Capt. Cook arrived. How’s that? Would that make you happy?

Don’t say “the white man” has caused problems for you. You weren’t enslaved or put on reservations hundreds or thousands of miles from your homeland. You had no Trail of Tears. A good portion of what happened was approved by your ruling monarchy; King Kam welcomed foreigners with open arms (not to mention greatly enjoying the Western technology, such as weapons, they brought). Under King Kam Hawaii was open to all people and racism was effectively nonexistent.

For that matter, King Kam himself was a blood-thirsty warlord. He conquered the local populations of the Hawaiian Islands and killed everyone who stood up to him. The Pali Lookout has a historical plaque commemorating one such event. He may have united the islands and brought changes to them but he didn’t get to where he was by playing nice with locals.

My attitude about Hawaiian was changed by dealing with locals. How about the President’s aide who was beat up and mugged downtown when President Bush visited last year? Where was the RESPECT for him? He didn’t do a damn thing to anyone; he was attacked coming out of a club. How about the RESPECT for tourists? The city waited nearly 4 days before posting signs at the beach after the largest raw sewage spill in history. Just because they’re white they deserve to swim in feces?

Why is the term haole used only in regards to white people? We’re all US citizens; we aren’t foreigners. If Haole truly means “foreigner” then the Japanese tourists should be called that. Why is the military so despised when the federal government provides something like 60% of the jobs here? There is no industrial base here; without the military and federal government the only money is from tourists. And having an ecomomy based on the service industry won’t survive very well. How come Hawaii doesn’t have a law against hate crimes? They tried to pass one back in 1999 or so but the state didn’t want to be open to lawsuits.

How come Kill Haole Day is just a fact of life for school kids? Nowhere else is the last day of school dreaded by white kids or an open ticket to harass and beat up a certain group of children. A group that is different only by race. Racism wasn’t part of King Kam’s empire and it’s illegal in the US. People threw a fit when a noose was hanging in a tree at a school yard in the South, but having a day dedicated to the persecution and intimidation of white children is okay here. Maybe that’s why you want to leave the Union and become a separate country with a monarchy; you want to make racism legal.

The burden of proof is on you to prove that my posts and all the comments on this blog are wrong. I will change my opinions if it is shown that my opinions are incorrect. But first I need to be shown that I’m incorrect. That’s how education works.

Comment by crystalattice — April 20, 2008 @ 11:49 am

well well well, look who’s decided to play my game? I wud love to know where u get ur info :) where did u get “Kill Haole Day”? Plz state your source :) I guess you want to venture out into Japanese tourist land…i don’t mind the japanese as much as you haoles, because when most of them are here, they show respect for our culture. The difference between you the two is that you guys again, want us to bend over and serve you…because you’re so special! Uh, not really. I reserve my judgement for some white people, but for those like you who don’t give a crap, i rather not waste my breath :)
I have read a lot of your responses and you say you don’t care what other people think and how they judge you. Well why are you spending some of your time trying to convince me that you’re right by giving me all of your “facts.” haha…i have the last laugh, cuz i’m a hawaiian and i know what wrong was done to our people. you should stop trying so hard :)

Comment by ha-Y-n4Life — April 21, 2008 @ 6:31 pm

Kill Haole Day: http://starbulletin.com/1999/03/24/news/story7.html
Hawaiian Sovereignty: http://www.angelfire.com/hi2/hawaiiansovereignty/
Hawaiian racial issues: http://www.amazon.com/Hawaiian-…sr=8-1
Hawaii Secondary Education: http://www2.studentsreview.com/search.php3?START=0&RANGE=20&SEARCH=hawaii
(These are just a few of the references I have found).

I have lived in Japan for several years and visited many foreign countries. It’s part of their cultures to respect other cultures. Americans coming here probably don’t feel obligated to “respect your culture” because this is a US state.

Exactly how do we want you to bend over and serve us? How do we consider ourselves special? You still haven’t given any evidence, other than basically saying, “Oh yeah? Well…screw you.”

I notice that you’re still calling me a haole in a manner that leaves no doubt that it’s a racial slur. Sorry if I don’t buy the line that haole simply means “foreigner” or “white person”. It’s definitely the same as calling a black person “nigger”. But you know what? It doesn’t matter. I could call Hawaiians “flat-footed, splayed-toed, diabetes-suffering, spam-eating, dirty, homeless fatasses” but it doesn’t prove anything. People who resort to such name calling are only showing their ignorance and lack of education because they can’t come up with anything better. I haven’t resorted to calling you or anyone else who’s posted here any names. Yet I let people like you continue to post your comments with editing them or deleting them because I believe in the freedom of speech. You’re entitled to your opinion and so am I.

You are right though, I don’t care what other people think of me. I’m not trying to convince you or anyone that I’m right. I’m just stating my opinion and playing your game because I have time. However, if you say I don’t give a crap, why are you “wasting your breath” trolling on my blog? If I’m such an ignorant jackass, why do you keep coming back?

How exactly do you know what was done to “your people”? Were you alive last century or is it all based on what you learned in the local schools? Or what OHA has told you? Have you done any critical thinking and asked for proof of these allegations or do you just accept everything your told? Have you found any supporting evidence independent of what you’ve been told? That’s all I’m asking you for: supporting evidence that white people are so bad or at least evidence that what I have said is wrong.

If whites are so bad, why is the governor is white? Why did everyone love Colt Brennen when he was leading UH to win so many games? How come the UH football coach was white? How come many of the instructors at the universities are white? If white people are so bloody bad, why do so many of them have these positions? I don’t think people here care what their skin color because it doesn’t affect how they work.

However, I get dirty looks when I walk into stores and restaurants and get poor service. Since these people don’t know me and I haven’t even talked to them, there is no way I could have disrespected them or their “culture”. Why am I “white devil slave-master” when no one knows who I am? If you met me on the street, would you automatically hate me because I’m white or would you give me the benefit of the doubt until you got to know if I’m a bastard or not? From what it sounds like, you only reserve that for the Japanese; white people need not apply. What is your opinion of white people who move here and “culturize” themselves; they “go native” and love everything about the isles? Do you still hate them because they are white or are they better because they’ve become local? If I did the same thing, would make that me a better person?

You haven’t contradicted any of my points but your comments continue to prove my point. Notice that my responses are eloquent and civil, even when I disagree. Again, the burden of proof is on you. I can play this game all year, or at least until I get bored. I’ve provided some of my supporting evidence. How about you?

Comment by crystalattice — April 22, 2008 @ 7:11 am

i posted earlier in this thread, but i just wanted to add:

crystalattice - great job.

Comment by sara — April 22, 2008 @ 12:39 pm

i give up trying to prove my point to you. but crystalattice, you have greatly interested me in the points you have to comment on and what sources you have provided. You are indefinitely “Haole” and therefore, don’t understand the trials we have faced. I shouldn’t have expected you to; only a Hawaiian could know what our history means. I guess i remained blind in that facet. I would like you to know that i have read a lot of your comments and responses and one of them made reference to the Kamehameha Schools and their supposed “racism” in allowing only native Hawaiians to attend the school. The founder of the Kamehameha Schools, Ke Ali’i Bernice Pauahi Bishop wrote her will giving specific reference to the School and that her money and estates should go towards admitting only native Hawaiians so that we would be able to rebuild the communities that we had lost due to diseases and foreigners. The school would serve the native Hawaiians and teach them western ways so that they would be able to survive. Although we incorporate a lot of western practices, we still participate in a lot of Hawaiian traditions and that’s what makes our school “racist.” It’s not considered racism because it was Pauahi’s will that this be done. If you make reference to today’s world, it is against the law to change or alter in any way someone’s will. So why are so many of the haoles sueing our school and attempting to alter the princesses will??? I suppose it’s because you guys just can’t let us be. Let us take advantage of the princesses gifts to her Hawaiian people so that we will be able to be good and industrious men and women.
For the record, i am 20% Hawaiian and i am a student at the Kamehameha Schools. I hope you rethink your view about Hawaii and your perception of Hawaiians alike :)

Comment by ha-Y-n4Life — April 22, 2008 @ 4:25 pm

you know, when you want to talk about a subject like this, unless you can back up your opinions, that is all they are. opinions, not fact. and it is people like “ha-Y-n4Life” that continue to give the hawaiian residents a bad name. everytime it sounds like you are going to back up something you say with fact, it turns into another rant about the “bad white man”.

it comes off as ignorant and racist. i pity people like you.

Comment by elle driver — April 22, 2008 @ 5:29 pm

How can you give up trying to prove a point when you haven’t even started to make one? I have several dozen points, observations, statements, and links to other material. You have yet to address any of them in a thoughtful and intelligent manner. The only thing you have come close to talking about is the Kam School.

IANAL so I can’t say anything regarding “breaking a will” so I won’t make any statements in regards to that. However, IIRC Ms. Bishop’s will stated that application preference is given to people of Hawaiian descent to the maxim extent possible under the law. To receive this preference, applicants must prove their ancestory. The racism issue comes from the fact that, because there are so many applicants claiming the ancestory, non-Hawaiian decendents are effectively excluded. It’s not because the schools teach Hawaiian traditions; no one cares about that fact. Legally, the preference for Hawaiians could be construed as violating various civil rights as a race-based exclusion policy; this is the same argument against the Akaka Bill.

Personally, since the Kam Schools are private, I really don’t care how they operate. In my book, it’s not very different than a religious school excluding people who aren’t of that denomination. However, I don’t know the legality of religious exclusion nor do I know about race-based exclusion. The matter hasn’t been resolved satisfactorily in the courts. The last few lawsuits from white people have been settled out of court with the school paying several million dollars to the plantiffs. Until a definitive court case is made, arguing about it is as effective as pissing in the wind.

I have a Master’s degree already and my children are home-schooled so concerns about primary education in Hawaii really don’t interest me. I figured you were either attending or graduated from the Kam Schools simply by your responses to me and the fact that you said you were writing a paper. OHA plays a big part in the curriculum of those schools. Check out what the people at http://www.zeroshibai.com/ have to say about the Hawaiian school system.

I would like to say that your latest post is the most lucid of your writings so far. When you write like everything is a text message, you sound like a moron. It’s the same thing I say about pidgin. It doesn’t matter if you have a Ph.D. or are a rocket scientist; if you can’t express yourself adequately people won’t respect you. Why do you think a business suit is recommended when going to a job interview? Perception is reality. If you present yourself as a respectable person and not an illiterate slob, you’re more likely to get a good job. The same thing applies to most aspects of “normal life”. I’m actually quite glad to see that you can actually spell correctly and don’t have to use slang.

You’re right that I don’t understand the trials your *ancestors* faced. However, you aren’t living in the time of the oppression of your ancestors. You live in a state that is part of the “greatest country in the world”. You have a representative democracy where (hopefully) your opinion will be heard. You have access to the Internet where more information is now available to the average person than any other time in history. You can drive a car or fly in an airplane.

These are all made possible by white people, black people, yellow people, and any other color humans come in. George Washington Carver, a black man, invented hundreds of plant products that helped provide new opportunities for farmers and helped make “modern” life better. The Chinese invented thousands of items, from toilet paper to the compass. The Indians created the concept of zero. And obviously there are the many inventions of white Europeans.

What I’m trying to say is that many of the things you take for granted came from white people, either directly (such as inventions) or indirectly (through trade with other countries). Before you say you hate the white man so much, you should stop and consider exactly what the white man has provided you.

I can’t apologize for what the plantation owners did, nor would I. I didn’t do it and neither did any of my ancestors. All I can say is that I’m sorry you feel such hatred to white people. Just remember that no one here today did that to you; it’s in the past. Learn from it. Any persecution you feel is simply illusionary.

Consider that when the Irish, Polish, and many other white people immigrated to America, they were persecuted too. They were prevented from taking certain jobs, they had certain sections of the city they could live in, they were beat up by the “older” immigrants, etc. Heck, the boat people from Asia were persecuted back in the ’80s when they came to California.

I hope you understand what I’m saying. Basically, what’s in the past is in the past. You can’t change it but you can learn from it. Life isn’t as crappy as you may think it is and it’s up to you to make your way in the world. You can either live your life as a victim, asking for hand-outs, or you can become the next Howard Hughes (before he went crazy :)). You can continue to hate white people or you can realize that we aren’t the cause of the problems in the past. It’s up to you.

Comment by crystalattice — April 22, 2008 @ 5:53 pm

crystalattice,
you have put it oh so well!!! as a second-generation american, my family also paid its dues in america. hawaii has so much potential but alas it is so caught up with its ignorance, racism and total disregard for the planet (have you seen how the locals treat the beaches?) that it is a blight. they forget, they voted to become a state. was that just to get more federal money for their phoney programs?

Comment by KLS — April 23, 2008 @ 11:01 am

I agree with all who hate this god awful place they try and pass of as a paradise…PLEASE I am a military spouse I found out I was comming to Hawaii I was so excited and I couldn’t wait to get here with my husband…Well that feeling passed VERY quickly. I do realize that no place on earth is perfect but most places don’t claim to be a paradise either. Everyone back home just can’t grasp the fact that I think this place is a pile of crap but they have never had to live here either. The language is just pathetic. I know someone had said they you don’t use it when you are at the work place but I have heard my fair share when I go into a business or any store. I worked in the mall for a while and the employees I worked with used it with the customers and most of the customers had NO idea of what they were saying. I agree that you may not be stupid but like someone else said you sure do seem that way to most of us who speak english. Hawaii has this big fake front they put on for the world to see. Aloha this Aloha that give mea break like someone else said aloha=f*ck you. The whole haole thing is racist just like everyone else…I don’t go around calling hawaiians mokes or whatever the word is. I’m not sure how they teach geography here but I have had more than on person ask me if I live in the middle of the woods because I am from Illinois…and they also asked me “do you have an ocean” I was shocked that someone could honest to God be that stupid! I will never understand Hawaii or anyone who enjoys living here. Also if the local people LOVE Hawaii SO much why do you come to the mainland for schooling? If your’s is so great…I guess I just don’t understand. I am embarassed to say I live here and that Hawaii is even a state to begin with…

Comment by KAR — April 25, 2008 @ 2:54 am

agree with the above…what else kills me is the total disregard for the land and the beaches. how many styrofoam plate lunch containers can the land fill take? i say, move the military, take the us statehood back and let them live in their mess. can’t wait to flee this place.
have you ever driven around and seen all the junk cars? i mean the ones people aren’t living in…a disgrace

Comment by KLS — April 25, 2008 @ 12:15 pm

Hey, Everywhere has there bad and goods. Its what you make of the situation where you live. Just enjoy life where ever you are this is life. There is no heaven on earth accept heaven itself.

Alison

Comment by Alison — May 1, 2008 @ 8:47 pm

Hawaii is awful.
I have had the displeasure of living in Hawaii
Anyone reading this - spend your tourist dollars elsewhere - ANYWHERE.
Hawaii is hateful, racist, dirty. Don’t buy into what you see on TV about Hawaii. The only place you see “happy hula” girls is at the airport, a luau you pay to go to, or at your hotel - and those girls are probably Japanse or Phillipino. It’s like being in Asia!
It just sucks, trust me go anywhere else.

Comment by Jammie — May 4, 2008 @ 4:17 am

I am a military wife native Californian that hates it here, I too thought I was moving to paradise but I have the same major issues. It is dirty run down and like a third world country, the school system is pitiful and violent and I’m resentful to have to pay to put my child in private school with a yearly tuition of $11,000. I could live in a nice neighborhood in San Diego and have my child in a great public school for free. Hawaii is the most expensive “poor” state one can live in. The roads and infrastructure have to be the worst in the country and not to mention I have five car door dings in the three years I’ve lived here. A lot of people are classless and will give you stink eye for no reason and resent others that have more money. I don’t blame the actual native Hawaiians there really isn’t a lot of them around anymore the state is mostly asian and all the business and service industries are run poorly by filipinos. You’ll get the worst costumer service ever. There is definetly rampant corruption in the government, developers and big business from the beginning. The misdirected hatred is toward “haoles” even thought they are a tiny minority in the state the racism is ignorant and just plain sucks. I’ve tried to enjoy it here but I cant wait to leave!

Comment by Christine — May 4, 2008 @ 1:55 pm

LMAO

wow i have lived in Hawaii all my life and people that visit here and complain because it doesn’t “satisfy” your needs, just stop bitching! You DONT have to be here, you DONT have to return.

Mahalo nui loa bitches :D

BTW* i agree with Alison

Comment by John — May 6, 2008 @ 11:36 am

Though I’ve finally moved from that place, and no longer care anything about it, I will reply to John.

Some of us don’t have a say in the matter of whether or not we live in Hawaii, leave Hawaii, or return to Hawaii. Sure, we can suck it up and deal with it but it doesn’t mean we can’t bitch about it. Just like you have the option to bitch right back. So, suck it up and deal with the fact that not everyone believes that Hawaii is as good as advertised.

Comment by crystalattice — May 6, 2008 @ 1:46 pm

aww..well all honesty, im just so heart broken that not everyone likes hawaii =[ I guess i have no choice BUT to suck it up because it never crossed my mind.

lmao :) well you all probably learned a lesson then. You should try Compton ^^ I heard that city is just wonderful :D haha i am just playing but i respect what you are saying crystalattice

Comment by John — May 6, 2008 @ 2:14 pm

isn’t it interesting that the outer islands don’t even want the oahu residents on them…some of us don’t have a choice and that is why we are here…believe me, if we had our way we would be gone
you could have your island back, we would take our statehood back along with the federal welfare money, and all the infrastructures we have built…you could all sit in your tarps and contemplate your fate

Comment by KLS — May 7, 2008 @ 8:15 am

I have to say that I am half haole and was raised as being called hapa haole. Its not racist but it is negative when white people come and treat locals in a negative way or such. The phrase I would hear is, “typical haole”, sometimes with a f ord in the middle. My own white mother would say it.

Also, I want to add that there are good and bad in any place. I grew up middle class and almost never seen any racial or negative things. I went to a public school and then UCLA where again, i never really seen anything there. I had friends from both places that took me to the areas of Oahu and LA that did. It is everywhere but you can avoid it and hang out with normal people for the most part.

Comment by jim — May 7, 2008 @ 8:48 am

haha what are you talking about now? XD some people don’t even know who’s from what island. They only dont like Oahu residents(Please show me how you got that fact) because probably Oahu has the biggest Caucasian population? And there we go again with the Haole’ thing. :D

Not everyone is the same here so stop thinking that we are all blood thirsty ignorant pigs(i think that was a little too much, lol) that all hate Haoles’. It’s probably hard from your experience here but Haole’ is sometimes not even a bad word -__-

Comment by John — May 7, 2008 @ 9:48 am

all the haoles here are wondering why they are called haole. its simply, non local white guy that didnt go to high school here. There are plenty of haoles that can blend in and then fit in but didnt go to school here. some of you are not good at adapting. what pisses the locals off is when you are haole and you bring the attitude here. then some local guy will beat you up and the cops will say, we will look for him. haha. anyway, don’t sweat it. stay there and deal with the whole US becoming one big mexico.

peace out biotches.

Comment by jim — May 7, 2008 @ 10:07 am

dear jim
rather the us become mexican than fat, uneducated, ignorant,dirty,
littering half-breed hawaiians who ruin the environment, throw their kids away for ICE and even let them in the care of someone who will throw them over a freeway

Comment by KLS — May 8, 2008 @ 8:18 am

kls,
your opinion is duly noted and subsequently filed in the circular filing can.

your ignorance beffudles me. enjoy the chicklet gum.

Comment by jim — May 8, 2008 @ 11:06 am

Jim, I am with you. I would love to be in Hawaii than surrounded by all these mexicans. I’m in arizona and this place has gone downhill quick. As far as crime, hawaii has very low violent crime unlike where i live. It is crazy with drive by shootings, drugs everywhere and prices going up. I know hawaii has their problems but it never seems as bad. I would trade the suicide shooters and gangs for hawaiian life. Im moving there soon.
aloha

Comment by roger cline — May 8, 2008 @ 11:09 am

Jim/Roger, it’s interesting to see that you “both” have the exact same email address and the same IP address. If you’re going to make up a fake person to “stuff the ballot box”, the least you could do is have a different account.

I won’t delete “Roger’s” comment because it’s funny, in a BS kind of way. I’m sure it will just provide more fodder for your opponents since you’re apparently the same person.

Comment by crystalattice — May 8, 2008 @ 12:59 pm

FYI, I just received 3 comments that I did not approve from someone at IP address 165.248.247.135. This person tried to do what Jim/Roger did and create three separate accounts, pretending to be three different people; one of them being me.

I removed these posts because all they contained was f-ing haole, suck ****, eat ****, lick *****, and so on. Though I personally don’t care what you think of me, I will not allow that stuff on my blog. This is a place for (semi-)adult debates, not juvenile name calling.

The only reason I’m making this comment is that it just goes to show the mentality of the people who live in Hawaii. The IP address given above has been blocked and I will do it again if I have to. However, I’m posting the IP address because 1) it’s not a privacy violation and 2) it’s a little bit of public shaming. Do with it as you will.

Comment by crystalattice — May 9, 2008 @ 4:24 pm

well i am back..this is pretty entertaining when im bored. :D Anyways to KLS, i have no idea what to say. Whats a “KLS” anyway?

fat? I wouldnt have the right to say that because it is quite ignorant having the fact that this is the fattest country in the world =P I mean i’m sorry to say this but..Doesn’t Caucasians hold the biggest population of obese people?

uneducated? We have a educational system ,it may not be the best but whoa didnt Barack Obama go to a hawaii school? wow i can’t remember.. haha

ignorant? LMFAO!! whoa i am going to skip that. =]

dirty? I shower everyday so that’s covered.

littering half-breed hawaiians? What does Half-Hawaiians have to do with littering? You litter..stop being a hypocrite ;)

And the whole ice thing? we have drug problems..so does the mainland. We are in the middle of the pacific surrounded by other countries, so you cant blame us.

And the kid being tossed over the freeway? She didnt know any better, yea the guy was crazy but not everyone is born with “perfect” parents. Of course you wouldn’t understand and thank god if you do because alot of people go through survival everyday and actually appreciate that they have parents, food or even a house to sleep in…

Comment by John — May 9, 2008 @ 6:45 pm

“uneducated? We have a educational system ,it may not be the best but whoa didnt Barack Obama go to a hawaii school? wow i can’t remember.. haha”

Obama attended Punahou. It’s a private college prep school. When you say “Hawaii school” are you referring to Hawaii’s public educational system? Everyone knows that Hawaii’s public schools are not that great. So Obama’s family was smart enough to put him in Punahou, which is I think a far cry from any “hawaii school” that you are hinting.

…crystalattice - you rock dude!

Comment by Chris — May 10, 2008 @ 6:02 am

ok. how are you going to judge hawaii. hawaii is a nice place to live. and if you dont like it “us locals” dont mind you getting off. so we may have problems but do you think that any other state has no problems. see you kind are the people that get all cocky about were you live. if you dont like it then GET OFF OF OUR ISLAND. if you think for one second that u hate hawaii oooo hun you are wrong. no one cares about you… get it… we no kare. and if you thing that we are racist. look at you. calling us out. im not wasting my time on a haolie. oo and i am military. all you have to do is be good to their land and back off.
gosh you people really need to get a life because u got lots of time on your hand
hate cassie

Comment by becky — May 10, 2008 @ 7:03 am

Sorry, but you white people did many evil things to the people of Hawaii.
You being treated like sh*t is just us returning the favor.

Comment by aloha_aina — May 10, 2008 @ 7:40 pm

Under International Law, Hawaii is not a state of the US. The only document that can LEGALLY transfer a Nation’s sovereignty to another thereby annexing it to the other, is a Treay of Annexation, which there was not. The US passed a Joint-Resolution to annex Hawaii in 1898. Well the problem with that is a Joint-Resolution is a Domestic Act! Meaning it has no power outside the borders of the United States! Also it was the Republic of Hawaii that gave control of Hawaii to the US. That’s another problem. You cannot LEGALLY give what is not yours! That would also mean that the Hawaii statehood vote is invalid, which was rigged in favor of the US because it only had two options, statehood yes or no, instead of the four options required by Article 73 of the UN Charter, statehood, remain a territory, free-association and independence. Also it was admitted by the government of the US through US Public Law 103-150. I’m sorry that you have been lied to, but Hawaii is not legally a part of the US. That is probably why it feels like a foreign country to people who come here from the continental US. It doesn’t help that people still remember the effects of the Thalia Massie case. White school teachers used to beat Hawaiian children for speaking their own language. The list of abuse of Hawaiian people, land and culture goes on and on. Some of it still continues to this day. These are probably the main causes of hate and indifference toward white people. Obviously not all white people are bad. It also doesn’t help when you go off base and disrespect us and our culture and act like idiots. You being in the US Navy, I’m pretty sure you got the “you are an ambassador to our country, what you do reflects upon the navy and the nation” speech. Respect is a two-way door. Don’t let it hit you on your ass on your way out.

Comment by kawika boy — May 10, 2008 @ 8:02 pm

I would like it to be known that kawika boy & aloha_aina are probably the same person; the postings came from the same IP address. Additionally, this IP address resolves to a computer system that is part of the Hawaii Dept. of Education. [Edit: it’s not the HDoE but a Navy computer out of Pensacola (see below). The comments from HDoE computer account were deleted due to profanity].

So, not only are government employees trolling on this blog from official computers, they are also spouting OHA propaganda.

I don’t have the time nor inclination to dispute your so-called legal standings. However, I will say this (as I’ve said before):

Take back your islands. Go back to the monarchy or whatever you want. But you have to return all federal, state, and local government money you’ve received over the years. The military bases, including the Navy shipyard, will be torn down. All of the government structures will be removed, including the houses, roads, etc. You people will have to go back to the way of life prior to the landing of Capt. Cook. All Western technology and conveniences you currently have will be taken away. Everything will go back to the way it was 100+ years ago. You can stand proud that you showed it to the white man while eating poi in your grass hut while wearing leaf skirts.

How’s that grab you?

BTW, for all the military people who come here, take a look at what kawika boy/aloha_aina posted to my post about going to Iraq (yes, 808rebel has the same IP). The IP address resolves to a Navy computer system out of the Navy Network Information Center of Pensacola. Talk about a hypocrite; what type of person, especially one working for the US military (oh, the irony of a Hawaii-lover working for “the man”), would wish that a person be killed in Iraq?

Comment by crystalattice — May 11, 2008 @ 3:34 pm

okay we will do what crystalattice said and “take back our islands….?” lmfao :)

Aw too bad, we can’t =P Not that it really matters for me because i don’t really care since it will never happen. Yuuup I would just move :D

Comment by John — May 11, 2008 @ 4:04 pm

If you can’t take them back, then I guess you better just deal with life as it currently is. It’s not like the locals seem to be capable of much more than whining about how horrible civilized life is as a US state. Yep, pretty damn horrible having health care, automobiles, airplanes, and food.

Comment by crystalattice — May 12, 2008 @ 2:23 am

Don’t you have to go to Iraq or something? =P

buh-bye =]

Comment by John — May 12, 2008 @ 1:06 pm

I agree with all that hawaii sucks and they park in your driveway and back into your garage door. All without THINKING. No wonder thier school system is almost last in the nation. Go figure.

Comment by John — May 16, 2008 @ 5:51 pm

I agree 100% with crystallattice. The locals just know they are a pathetic excuse for a human being if you even want to call most of them that and that is why they get a pissy about everything. It would be nice to stop the tourists and the military from going to Hawaii because they would be left with nothing (that would be great). No matter how you put it or who says it simply put Hawaii sucks and so do the local people who are so proud to live on the island…

Comment by KAR — May 18, 2008 @ 1:33 am

So you think Hawaii sucks? Ha.

I been here from the mainland for 6 years now. Going to try to stay another 4 and make it an even ten years.
Don’t get me wrong. This place is not for everybody. 1)Its far from the mainland. You’ll miss your family, your cultures, the change of seasons (ah Fall). I came on my own. Lots of folks in the military are ordered here. 2) You have to get used to living as a minority. Some white folks can’t handle that. 3) The public schools suck. But where don’t they? 4) There’s corruption in local Government. Where isn’t there? 5) Things are expensive. People on the mainland say “everything has to be shipped in”. When I lived on the mainland everything had to be shipped in too. (duh).
You do get treated in kind of a funny way tough. Everyone has preconceived ideas about whites - they usually keep those to themselves.
I’ve never known any whites to have been lynched here. I few of them have gotten their butts kicked for shooting off their big mouths in the wrong locations though. Cheers.

Comment by Da Bruddah — May 18, 2008 @ 8:42 am

in responce to “Da Bruddah” . . . .
you have never know of whites to be lynched? well, i dont know about lynching, but how about the people who are beaten up because they are military? I know of 5 people that i could name right now that were beaten up. Now, i dont know about you, but a group against a single person does not seem like fair odds to me. And before you have a dumb responce to that, three of the people that i know about personally ( not just a story i heard) were not “running their mouths off”. they were walking to their car. They just happened to have a distinctive military haircut.

Comment by elle driver — May 18, 2008 @ 4:44 pm

I’ve lived in Hawaii all my life for 16 years. I know that might not seem that long, but having lived on an island with very close boundaries on all sides, Hawaii gets old and annoying real fast. This is my story, from the perspective of a three-quarter Samoan, one-quarter African boy–which is me.

Now, the problem isn’t just the island, but that’s what I’d like to start with. There are always signs that try to impose on others not to litter to save the “aina” or the land, but whenever I look in the yards of Hawaiian or local (not exactly the same, I know) households, a lot of them are shrouded with rusted cars, tires, McDonalds wrappers, candy wrappers, cans, beer bottles, and other garbage. Also, I see the “locals” leaving cigarette buds everywhere, leaving beer bottles on the beaches, and leaving grocery carts and grocery bags everywhere on the streets. It pisses me off, because even as a local to this once was beautiful island, I’ve noticed that the people who claim to be locals or Hawaiians (showing off their shirts, banners, or stickers of Hawaiian pride) are the ones who take the worse care of the island. Even the local government sucks really bad at cleaning the island. The government seems to only focus on areas which attract tourism–a prime example being Waikiki.

Now, the people themselves (kids especially–in my situation) are idiotic, ignorant, AND arrogant bullies who rely on brawn rather than brains, most of the time. The local kids here snap real easily at haole (white foreign) kids. They can be pricks to the black ones as well. Really, when you come to this island, you almost have to fend for yourself all the time. Even if you’ve lived here all your life, like I have, you have to fend for yourself against the tyranny of mokes (street thug-like locals). Don’t get mokes mixed up with true Hawaiian people, because most of the time mokes are indecent, and the true Hawaiian people are loving and caring toward everyone. Still, I have lately been unable to come across any truly loving person on this island, because everyone here is so pissed off with one another. There is no “Aloha” here like there probably used to be.

Locals like to pick on haoles just because the haole ancestors basically stole the land from the Hawaiian people. It isn’t a present problem, and the hatred of the white race inhibits or hinders locals from progressing. So much focus is on the hatred of foreigners, yet locals still drink their products, use their computers, buy their land (or reap the benefits of projects like in Waimanalo), and go to their schools. It is a lost cause, especially since the taking over of Hawaii happened centuries ago. There is no sense in hanging onto the past as if the people of today were with Captain James Cook and the other royal assholes who took advantage of the original Hawaiian people. It isn’t the fault of people now, and if a finger is to be pointed, point at the government in control, and not at the people who are controlled under it. As a side note, the “white” in white man (I recognize) isn’t really a description of skin color. White man, today, refers more to western leaders, or the supremists of the white race, and not the commoners.

Now, personally, I don’t like the island because I’m not a beach person anymore. I was adopted by a “haole” family–they love the island and their mentality does not reflect on mine, apparently–, and my mother loves the beach. She took me so much that I got sick of it, and what incinerates me even more is that every local person I know won’t stop talking about it or going to it. In fact, the three main subjects a local or a moke tend to are either Bob Marley, the beach, or the ganja (weed). If you like any of those three (mainly weed) or all of those three, you’ll probably get along a little better. Now, don’t get me wrong, there are some cool local dudes I know, and I am friends with some of the mokes, but they still treat other people like shit.

Speaking of shit, the schools here are absolutely horrible. The education on this island is mediocre to abysmal. I’m sitting here in school right now typing this thing up and not doing an essay I’m supposed to be doing simply because I wanted to enlighten you of this issue, which is Hawaii. Sometimes, I feel like dropping a nuke on this island, and other times, I feel like this island is a great place. Right now, I’m somewhat indifferent to the island, but only stating what I have stated before to both haoles and locals. I speak the truth, my friends!

Comment by Kaeo Costa — May 19, 2008 @ 2:43 pm

So, here’s a question. What’s the deal with Bob Marley, reggae, and all the other Jamaican stuff in Hawaii? I asked some people while I was there but either no one knew or I was told “it’s an island thing”, which just sounds like a lame cop-out by someone who doesn’t know. Personally, I think it’s just about the drug culture in Hawaii.

Comment by crystalattice — May 20, 2008 @ 4:33 am

It is allll about the drugs, my friend.

Comment by Kaeo Costa — May 20, 2008 @ 6:13 am

it is evident;stupidest people i have ever encountered

Comment by KLS — May 20, 2008 @ 7:38 am

Ok,
Been readint his thread for a while now, and as a military member living in the great state of Oahu, I have a few points to lay down.

1: The weather here, more often then not, is gorgeous. The LAND of hawaii, meaning the grass, trees, beaches, and general physical enviroment, is very pretty. That much is true.

2: The government in place here IS very, very corrupt. Hawaiian Electric and RoadRunner cable have the absolute monopoly on the services you will use. They are not afraid to lose you as a customer, because you basically have no choice. So the customer is pretty much last on the list. Be aware of that.

3: The racism, selectively against white people, is AMAZING to me. Ive never been a fan of segregation, or racism, I was raised better. Me being born white doesnt give me a seat or a say in anything Im not willing to work my butt off to achieve, same for you reading this, and you flaming this. But best believe in your heart of hearts, Native Hawaiians can be very ignorant when they want to be.

Alot of people have commented on this thread, stating that “Well, everyhwere in America sucks too!” This is very true. However, if you were to look at the title of this page… it says “Hawaii Sucks”. So, please dont attempt to derail the purpose of this thread by reminding us that Everywhere, Earth, sucks. We know. This page is for Hawaii.

I dont even know crystallattice personally, and I already have more respect for him then most people I know on island. Thank you for posting this thread, Crystal. Youre more informed then most of your flamers.

And as a final note, please do NOT sit at your computers and spout irrelevant -opinions- on what happened in Hawaii’s past. I say opinions because written history of past enslavement/glory/squabbles/battles is generally very inaccurate, as it is written by the victor, who is free to clean up their image.
Im not saying slavery didnt happen. Im not saying white people didnt commit attrocities here, and everywhere. Im saying that whether you like it or not, every single culture ever to exist on this planet, has its roots steeped in blood, rape, and murder. Every one. Here is a short list of cultures who, at one point in their development, killed, enslaved, and tortured their own people, and foreigners:

Caucasian
African
Japanese
Chinese
British
Turkish
Arabian
Mayan
Hawaiian

Get the point? No ones hands are clean. No one.

Having said that, for whatever may have or may not have occured in hawaii’s past, what is true NOW, is that “Local” “Pure” Hawaiians enjoy a tourist revenue not even closely matched by any other state in the country. They are the largest demographic of people in residence, and they own just damn near about everything. Who cares, right? its your ancestors homes. Good for you all.

But lets bring the truth out here. Rahther then being the ambassodors of goodwill, locals are typically ignorant, racist, and arrogant. Hawaii may complain about Haole’s going to their schools, and walking on their land, but they sure as shit dont have any problem accepting the BILLIONS of dollars being funneled their way. (News Flash: All the guys on those dollar bills you like so much, are HAOLES!)

For every Haole who has ever been beaten up, every outsider who watches local children litter the ground and openly disrespect their “haole” elders because it is socially ingrained in them to blame the whites, for every person who has had to work their asses off simply to get Hawaiian home-owners to let them live somewhere, and for every consumer who has had to pay more, and get less, then the local good ol’ boy, I say “Fuck you, and your blatant racism. It didnt fly in America, and alot of people died in order to put a stop to it over the course of American Mainland history. Eventually, youll have to stop looking at our dollar bills, and start looking at our faces.”

Comment by Anti-Haole — May 21, 2008 @ 9:20 am

I still think that common sense is out the window. Most would think twice about bloking your driveway, Not in Hawaii they think it is an open spot. Dumb

Comment by John — May 21, 2008 @ 8:36 pm

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Hawaiians are disrespectful & ignorant? Only a disrespectful & ignorant person would start a thread called Hawaii Sucks.

What are you hoping to accomplish by this thread? Is it just somewhere for you to vent without getting your ass kicked? Keep in mind that everything you don’t like about Hawaii is a result of the US government.

Comment by kawika boy — May 22, 2008 @ 8:51 pm

It should be noted that the IP address for the above comment from kawika boy is yet another one that resolves to a Navy computer system. Ironic, considering that these flamers state that everything is the cause of the US government. If the government is so bad, why do these flamers post from government computers and apparently receive pay checks from the government, or at least indicate they are affiliated with the military/government in some fashion?

BTW, this thread isn’t to prevent me from getting my ass kicked. I vented loud and long while I lived in Hawaii and I tell everyone I meet now what Hawaii is really like. If you people think that the only way to “deal with this situation” is to kick my ass, then you’ve already lost. It means that you don’t have the knowledge and resources to compose an intelligent rebuttal.

I, and many others, have listed the problems with Hawaii and very few of them can be directly related to the US government. I’m still waiting for an answer to my question: why is life as a US state so bad? What exactly is missing in your life that you need a monarchy?

To be honest, I’m surprised the White Supremacists and Neo-Nazis haven’t become established in Hawaii. I’m not advocating it but it seems like a perfect place to find recruits.

As a final note, don’t you people realize that, in this day and age, many of the things you say and do could be construed as terrorist acts? I’ve already informed NCIS and the FBI of some of the threats I’ve received.

If you want to have a civil conversation here, that’s fine. But if you threaten me, my family, or any of the military people who are forced to live there, I won’t stand for it.

Comment by crystalattice — May 22, 2008 @ 9:06 pm

Oh another John..i’ll just put John2 since it’s better =]

and on my final saying:

Crystalattice, so sad the life. Mahalo Nui Loa and good riddens :D Its one less white girl(or boy??) out of Hawaii.. *GASP* did i jus say WHITE? Tsk tsk im bad AND racist ;)

But im done with this ..Peace!

Comment by John2 — May 23, 2008 @ 7:21 pm

Wow, I’m so glad I found this blog! I’ve been living in Honolulu for about 4 years and I’m sooo sick of it! I agree with everything you say! That wall on Kalanianaole Highway has been broken, collapsed actually, and for the entirety of my life here, it has NOT been fixed! It’s a disgrace to have a government who cannot fix a simple wall! And I feel the “Haole” form of discrimination as well. Hope you can find something good here, that’s something I find myself to struggle with, but I keep trying!

Comment by Julia DeHoff — May 25, 2008 @ 1:18 pm

Crystallattice speaks the truth. I am sick of the “We grew here, you flew here” B.S. I am a white police officer here, and I have had other officers say “What you want haole boy?” When I tell them that is rascist, they respond with so what. I get leave in 9 months and I am happy for it. It is funny how the locals hate the military. The military keeps the land clean at least. If you dispute what I say, then go look at Barbers Point, since it was given back to Hawaii. The beaches are completely trashed, meth heads everywhere, and the roads are destroyed.

The educational system is garbage. The attitude is “We did not have it when we were young, so these kids do not need it.” Hilarious. I guess they do not need vaccines either or any other kind of advances of science. Barak Obama went to private school. People support him here blindly, because he has Hawaii ties, and he is a Democrat. Wow, those are good reasons. Lord knows the Democrats have done so well with this state and the monopoly they have enjoyed. Don’t give me the tired Lingle is a Republican crap. The legislature and all other city and county posts are 99 percent Democrat. So she can get nothing done. I invite the all of the U.S to come to Hawaii and see what a Democrat President and Democrat controlled Congress will get you:

1. The worst roads………..anywhere.
2. The worst Public Schools.
3. Corruption at all levels of government.
4. Ineffective to non existent law enforcement.
5. Judges that let murderers and rapists go. Unless they are Haole.
6. Out of control taxes. They even tax food from the grocery store!
7. Traffic that is mind boggling!
8. Some of the worst Environmental Disasters anywhere, people dump trash and toxic chemicals everywhere, no curbside recycling. Hello, my former home had it in the early 90’s.
9. They let one company monopolize services, and when it goes bust “Aloha Airlines”, everyone wonders around asking “What happened?” Who lets one company run everything? It is ok here!
10. For some reason it is ok to beat your wife here, I have seen it all too often and the Police look the other way. It is some sort of strange caveman like atmosphere. The 60’s called and want thier culture back.

Theft is a way of life here. If it is not nailed down, it gets stolen. The police have given up on trying, and it is everything goes.

I knew we were in for it, when we landed at HNL. It looks like a throwback to the old Airplane spoofs. Hilarious. The place is a dump. The horrendous roads would make the Romans blush.

Plus, the vitriol here is insane. This blog demonstrates that. You attempt to have a normal conversation or debate, and then a “Hawaiian” gets on and calls you names. Well that is helpful. Help me to understand your plight by calling me names. Fabulous.

I will give you some insight on your IP addresses resolving to Pensacola. Those people are indeed writing from Hawaii, all Navy unclassified networks resolve from that point. There are a lot of “Hawaiians” in the Navy here, and they do thier best to stay stationed here. However, the Navy will not help you, because they do not want to offend the local populace.

In short, I say we let them secede from the Union, cut off all funding, and watch the place wither and die. Without outside help this place cannot sustain itself, look at Micronesia and Samoa. At least those two countries do not stick thier finger in our eye all of the time.

Anyway, thanks for reading my rant.

Comment by sigh — May 27, 2008 @ 9:37 pm

While I didn’t enjoy my visits to Hawaii, its funny that many of the same complaints about Hawaii apply to New Orleans. Even though we have horrible public schools, high crime (have you had a drive by bicycle shooting on your street? I have), and littering, there is more of an ‘aloha’ spirit in New Orleans than in Hawaii. People here know that the city cannot survive without tourists. And we let people drink, smoke and party where they want to - unlike in Hawaii.

Comment by nola — May 29, 2008 @ 8:17 pm

Wow…it’s so ironic. I was just speaking to a friend about the problems here on Oahu, and how many of the problems could be alleviated if locals here just simply tried to listen first, instead of just getting angry and saying “you just don’t get it.” He was pretty much raised in Honolulu, so what did he do? He got upset. I am from Hawaii, from a neighbor island. So, I do have an opinion on this topic. First of all, people from Oahu, especially from Honolulu do not have a good reputation where I’m from. To be more specific, they’re believed to be more crass, more disrepectful and very arrogant. I moved here several years ago to attend college, and I have to say that Honolulu has to be one of the most bizarre places I’ve ever spent any time in. Do the locals here treat whites badly? I’ve seen it many times. I’m half white myself, and I acknowlege it–not doing so would be an affront to my loving white father. I’ve noticed that I tend to get better service in restaurants here, because you can see my Asian side. Now, as long as I don’t open my mouth, I can get good service and treated well. Why is that, you may wonder? Because I don’t speak pidgeon. I’m the product of a white American soldier and a highly educated Asian woman. Therefore, I speak English. Not to say that pidgeon is inherently bad; but it can certainly be divisive. It sets you apart. Now, I am not saying that all of the locals here in Honolulu are bad, I’ve met some incredibly friendly people here, but I’ve also met some incredibly intolerant and small-minded people here who are convinced that being a local girl means that I have to look, act, talk and walk a certain way. Being local was never so defined where I grew up. We were taught to respect our elders, to respect the land and to respect one another–anyone who believed in, and practiced these traits was treated with respect as well, no matter what the skin color was. Believe me, as children, our parents and communities made sure that we did not speak ill off, or treat a person disrespectfully just because they were outsiders! So Crystal, I do hope that you have had some pleasant experiences while stationed here in Hawaii…are you stationed at Pearl Harbor? If you want, I could give you a few suggestions about where you could visit to get a taste of the Hawaii that I was raised in…without all of the ugliness of Honolulu! Aloha!

Comment by Big Islander — May 30, 2008 @ 11:49 pm

Big Islander, I no longer live in Hawaii and have no desire to ever return. Thanks for the offer but it’s unnecessary.

Comment by crystalattice — May 31, 2008 @ 3:26 am

I saw more Asians in Hawaii then white people.

Comment by Royce — June 1, 2008 @ 9:12 am

I wholeheartedly agree with what you have been saying, except the pidgin part. It is technically a creole, but then, I’m a linguist by trade, so that is my area. Anyway, I lived there for 5 years. I owned a house in Pearl City. I commuted an hour and a half into Manoa every damned day, and then, had the same crawl back home. Don’t listen to the haters who will shout all kinds of racist ignorance at you for your views. My advice is to get the hell out of there as fast as you can. It took me five years before I realized that to save my sanity, I had to leave that place. I felt besieged all the time!
They want us to go back to da mainland? Fine. I did. Never been happier.
Screw ‘em. Hope it sinks.

Comment by Mishka — June 5, 2008 @ 2:38 pm

I moved to Hawaii from Canada in 2004. I lived in Wailuku and then Paia on Maui first, and then in Volcano, Mt. View and HPP on Big Island. I am moving away because of the problems being discussed here.

I came from Saskatchewan, where we have a 70% First Nation (mostly Cree and Metis) population and 30% European (mostly Ukranian, Irish and French) culture. We have some problems getting along, but nothing like here. In fact, I have so many Cree, Metis and mixed-blood friends there that when I moved here, I naively assumed it would be similar: that is, that we would bridge the gap caused by military events in history. Because that’s what wars and land ownership are related to - military agendas and governments, not the ordinary person. In fact, I think after George Bush was elected a second time, many people began to seriously question whether our voice as voters actually has any control over the military agendas that stomp the globe. Truth is, the average person just wants to enjoy friendships, pursue personal growth and education, fall in love, raise children, and enjoy their neighbourhoods and communities. It is so raw and painful to be hated on every moment of every day by people who of the majority poor, locked in destructive social patterns, filled with anger and quick to lash out in violence. Thing is, many of the foreigners who move here really truly contribute to the islands. I know many Americans who work for very little pay and dedicate themselves totally to environmental efforts here to protect the dolphins, seals, whales, turtles and birds; who clean up the beaches. My best friend here worked as the head of Social Services here and worked 90 hour weeks placing battered kids in foster protection. My boyfriend and I struggled to launch a sustainable farm project here and after 4 years of being robbed, threatened, hassled, scowled at and feeling lonely with the lack of support of friendship - we are moving to California to get relief. I think it is sad, because no matter what happened in history, the current hate and violence is not justified. Say whatever you like - the truth remains - hatred and violence are not justified. I leave you to it. I’m looking forward to being back in a community that smiles alot.

Comment by bigislandcanadian — June 6, 2008 @ 2:18 pm

Also, I think it is sad, because the land itself is so beautiful, and people who come here come because they want to create a personal relationship to the land, and then they end up embroiled in these daily conflicts that - honestly - have nothing at all to do with them. There is no justification in targeting people who’s only relationship to Captain Cook is that they happen to have the same color skin. I did not land on your island and kill you, disrespect you or hate on you in any way. In fact, I came here with love for the land and an open heart, tried to learn to speak the pidgin dialect to be friendly, lived poor to fit in, and gave back to the community - but I’ve been trashed by locals ever since I got here. So…bye! You could benefit from friendship, but instead you want to be alone in isolation again, with your history of oppression by the priest caste, human sacrifice, black magic, kapu, war and cannibalism? Those are as heinous as anything the white governments have done. All governments have harmed civilians in their quest for domination and control - we are all victims. The social problems here are rampant - ice, pot, guns, domestic violence, lack of opportunities and a general attitude of distrust and unwillingness to share and learn with people from other cultures. I feel sorry for all the people ‘born and raised’ here who want more for themselves than the ‘ignorant thug’ agenda. We foreigners can go back where we came from, but people who’ve never had the chance to get off the island and travel around the world to experience other cultures will never get to learn that the world has changed - the rest of the world is now ‘all mixed up!’ we learn from each other and share the same space. “Sovereignty” and “geographic entitlement” according to a racial group doesn’t really apply anymore when the globe has 6 billion people living on it! We are all human beings, and all human beings are entitled to live on the Mother Earth and by the way, the Earth does not care what shade your skin is or what shape your eyes are - we are all humans. Show some respect to Life itself.

Thanks for having the courage to bring these issues out in the open crystallattice.

Comment by bigislandcanadian — June 6, 2008 @ 2:56 pm

I am in my 60s and decided I would like to retire in Hawaii. I have been here 3 years and absolutely hate it. The locals kill and beat up elderly white people as easily as they eat their dogs and spam.
I fear for my life everyday. I have been run off the road, had weapons pulled on me, called a “f—— haole”, and couldn’t find a decent job. Standard procedure is to ask “how long have you lived on the island” and that will give them the information they need to not hire you.
Homelessness is a huge issue, and it seems that the white homeless people really don’t live too long on the street. So if you think you can come to Hawaii and live off the land, please stay on the mainland and be safe and close to your family. I had a friend, an elderly man who walks with a cane, beat up at the beach close to my house. Now I can’t even enjoy the beach, one of the main reasons I moved here.
Now with plane tickets being so expensive you can’t afford to get off this god-forsaken place even if you want to.
I can’t sell my house because of a poor real estate market and a volcano that spews toxic sulfur dioxide.
The day that I can leave this place will be one of the happiest days of my life. I hear of military wives who break down when they finally get on the plane to leave because they have been so unhappy here.
I know the day I board that plane I will probably cry uncontrollably, if I live long enough before some ignorant pidgin speaking local crushes my skull.

Comment by Faye Mac — June 13, 2008 @ 12:50 pm

One more comment to solidify the spiritual and moral values of this place. My friend told me that she or her family did not know that the last day of school is called “Haole Day”. If you are white and go to school the last day you WILL be beaten. The school system knows of this “tradition” and openly condons it. My friends 8 year old was beaten horribly her first year of school here.
How can the locals say they respect their elders when old folks like myself get beaten and killed everyday. They will call you “aunty” when they want something from you, and then as soon as you lend them money or cigarettes they will call you a “f—— haole” right to your face.
This is the ugliest place on earth, it just happens to have warm weather.

Comment by Faye Mac — June 13, 2008 @ 1:46 pm

No oversight means MAJOR corruption ALL THROUGH HAWAII COUNTY DEPARTMENTS…NO ONE is actually even working, except to show up and collect their checks that WE CITIZENS PAY FOR, but no one does their job, especially police…after a 911 emergency call, it took police OVER TWO HOURS to even respond!!!!

Comment by Citizen — June 13, 2008 @ 2:12 pm

Hawaiian dont care about anything but their drugs!!! Take that away and watch them freak!

Comment by Citizen — June 13, 2008 @ 2:17 pm

Why do the philipino girls say that they are Hawaiian Philippino when they are just 100% Philippina.Why do people actually believe them just because they went to high school in Hawaii and these philippino hula girls pull that local crap on you. Hawaiians are a type and breed of asians. There facial features and their culture of sitting on the floor with their sarongs and eating with their hands are asian. The Hawaiians came here by boat or what ever fancier name you want to call their boat.BUT I have had Phillipino girls and actual mixed Hawaiian/ Chinese pull that local BS. They need to go home and ask their Philippino parents or Chinese father that married a Hawaiin woman, when their parents first came to Hawaii. The caucasions that say they are” Hawaiian at Heart” need to quit trying to be local after only living here 3 to 5 years and pulling that local BS on the new caucasion arrivals. Wana be Hawaiians is what I hate about Hawaii.
Hawaiians came from somewhere else too. Original American Indians and Eskimos have asian features and came through the bearing straits. When the Mayflower arrived, all of a sudden the european immigrants starting bashing on the new europeans immigrantslike the Irish, Italians,Pollocks, Jews. Caucasions started calling Blacks the “N” word and complin about them being in America when the whites are the ones that brought them here. Alot of the Blacks do not have their African names anymore because they were given their master’s last name as a way of branding yet some are racist towards the new latin and asian immagrants who came to the U.s on their own free will and by plane first class sometimes. The Phillipinos have Spanish last names because of their Spanish masters and not because they are part Spanish like they like to portray. My point is that every race has their wana bes.
Every race has good people, fat people, too. Every city has drugs and prostitutes just like New York and Los Angeles.

Comment by DW — June 13, 2008 @ 5:13 pm

Comment on the HI county and state government departments. Hawaii has more government employees per capita than any state. The services are deplorable. Any white person who applies for any positions posted by the state or county government is just wasting their time. They are constantly saying that they cannot fill critical positions yet I know of several well qualified white folks that have been applying for these positions for years without any result.
It is another Hawaiin myth that they take care of their own. People take in children and the disabled to get the money that the state pays them. I am a social worker and have seen rampant abuse of the disabled. I had a client who came to class almost everyday with bruising, larcerations and missing teeth. He had major scarring all over his body. He was mute. When I asked co-workers why this had not been reported their response was, “this is the way it has always been he just falls down alot”. When I called Adult Protective Services they informed me that no complaint against a caregiver had ever been made by that specific government funded private organization. This is almost unheard of in the social service field. This mute disabled man had been beaten and abused by his caregiver for over a decade.
And spousal abuse is unreal. If you witness it it is best to just try to call 911. A young 23 year old good samaritian was recently killed when trying to stop a man from beating a woman in a parking lot.
What we need is a blog on the reasons why you should not vacation in Hawaii, if the tourist dollars stop coming they might be forced to change their ways. The brutal beating of a young military family in front of their 3 year old child was swept under the rug. The FBI backed out right away on the investigation of a hate crime, even though through the whole beating that was done by a local family (father, mother and son), the phrase “f—— haole” was used repeatedly. The theory of some concerned citizens is they do not want to jeopardize tourist dollars by making a big issue over assaults that are obviously hate crimes.
If by getting this information out to mainland tourists, that they risk their lives by coming here, and Hawaii starts losing major tourists dollars, the locals might be forced to change their ways. I don’t expect they will ever like us but maybe they might stop brutalizing us for sake of the almighty buck.

Comment by Citizen — June 13, 2008 @ 5:57 pm

Citizen,
White people are not brutalized for the sake of the almighty buck. They are brutalized because the culture here in Hawaii is that everything you want to do is acceptable, as long as you remember to blame “the white man” for your woes and troubles. ha-Y-n4Life posted earlier that no white people could eve understand the “trials” that hawaiians have faced… I have to admit I am ignorant of any great “trials” that have befallen the locals here that were unique to hawaii, and therefore worth commenting on. The trial for attacking outsiders? The trial of allowing your elected officials to rundown your roads, your schools? What great struggle have you been through, man? The struggle to figure out exactly what do do with all that money coming into your state from tourists?
Your culture is sick, man. And not simply the same sickness that falls all over America. You are blatantly racist, and as I am the Anti-Haole, born and bred to hate on everyone and everything that resembles racism to ANY skin color, that makes you a disgusting example of the slime that human beings can breed.

Comment by Anti-Haole — June 14, 2008 @ 11:01 am

As I re-read my comments and that of others about hawaii, I realize that the mindset that we abhor (indiscriminate discrimination) is the mindset we are assuming because we are angry and afraid.
When I first moved here I saw a commercial where a teenage white girl was being cruelly treated by a group of local girls. The commercial ended by saying that “Discrimination is wrong”.
The only way, if it is possible to stop the hate, is to educate the children.
We might not see the hate that the locals feel end in our lifetimes, but we can make it a better place for our children.
If my great-granddaughter would like to get married in hawaii and vacation here I would like her to be able to do that.
I am 50% American Indian, the hawaiin people, as stated by many here, are not the only ones who have been cruelly and unjustly treated.
Are we a “people” or a “peoples”? My grandmother died in a reservation, and it really wasn’t a very nice place. Is that what the Hawaiins want?
Love is the answer. Doesn’t anyone read the bible anymore?

Comment by Faye Mac — June 16, 2008 @ 11:03 am

This has been an interesting read as I have wanted to move to Maui for a while now after a number of visits. Just as an aside, i did stay on the North Shore for my honeymoon on Oahu and found it nice as well, but the asian’s in Honolulu very rude uppity. Not sure if they we’re Hawaiian Asain or tourist tho….
I have heard of this discrimination on the islands and have not really experienced it myself. Tho, I have not gone into the hawaiian only areas i guess. I did meet a couple of hawaiian girls selling jewerly and stuff on the side on the road north of Kapalua and they we real nice and fun and we joked with eachother for a couple hours while they made a necklace for my girl friend. But I treated everyone nice and respectful, been learning hawaiian and cultural things too, Like respect for the older people, addressing them as aunti or mother. Maybe that helped. However, I friend of mine moved back because of the discrimination they experience living near Kahalui. They owned their house for years but rented it, but when they moved in, his wife, very white, was threated often, tho he was accepted cause of his asian looks.
The point? I moved to Ca. from Oklahoma and had many friends who are full blood plains indians. I can understand how the hawaiians must feel. There are many simularities there. But the cheyenne and arapaho indians I met were in college and trying to better them selves. You can’t change the past, only your future. As for hawaii, I love the language, culture, even poi… Love the ocean too. That is why i live in morro bay now. Just nice not needing a wetsuit to go out…
So, I don’t want to up and move across the ocean only to be forced out in a year or two…
So, my question is addressed to people like ha-n-4 life and those like him…
If you met me and i was not rude to your or your ways, and wanted to be friends hang, ect. and learn from you about hawaii… would you? Tell you hawaiian friends I was okay… or would peer pressure to hate the haloe prevail and treat me with disdaine and hate….

Thanks for posting….

Comment by Kepeli — June 16, 2008 @ 11:17 am

The Hawaiians should become extinct. They are worthless and haven’t contributed a single thing to this world. Nothing. Zip. And they are just damn ugly.

Comment by Edwin Lee — June 24, 2008 @ 2:10 pm

Say hello to your #1 fan. I just love love love all the truth in all this. All the things I have felt and have wanted to say….you said EXACTLY! I do have one question, though. Do these people not know what a regular(normal) window looks like? haha

Comment by armywifey — June 24, 2008 @ 9:45 pm

Oops….I said “these people”. Sorry. Didn’t mean it in a bad way. Or did I ?! I would give up all I own to be back home on the “mainland” and I have only been here like 2 months.

Comment by armywifey — June 24, 2008 @ 9:47 pm

im sorry to hear. but hawaii is actually great.
yes i call people haole too, but its just a normal
part of my vocabulary. dont take it to the heart.
people down here are actually nice after you get
to know them. from experience being born and raised
here makes me happy. but dont take it so damn personal.
deal with it. so emo man.

Comment by unkown — June 29, 2008 @ 12:18 pm

Hi,
I have not lived in Hawaii but I do plan on moving there in about a year which is why i stumbled upon this post.
My parents are Cuban and I have been lucky enough to visit many countries and to have lived in France.
When I first moved to France, I was 19 and it was such a culture shock. I tried to understand their way of thinking and acting but it just left me frustrated. After moving back to France again, I realized (and it took me two trips to realize this ) that “when in Rome do as the Romans” is the way to go.
When I started to accept the French culture as it is, I started to feel more welcomed. Of course, every once in a while I got an ignorant person asking me why I was living in Paris and I would just respond “Im here to learn about your culture”
My father has always told me that citizens are ambassadors of their country. Meaning that if you like the locals then you like the country.

Since I have never been to Hawaii I cant comment on everyone’s post but I would like to say thanks to everyone who had something to say because it helps in deciding whether or not to move to HI.
If I do move though I would try to accept things for how they are even if it means being called a “haole”

Comment by wanderlust — July 1, 2008 @ 9:31 pm

Ps.
I live in Miami Beach. The people here(mostly people who move here) are superficial. Its all about the brand new bag, your yoga instrutcor and your Hummer.I’m not saying its bad but its just not me.
I heard that the people in Hawaii are very laid back, easy going and not superficial … is this true?

Comment by wanderlust — July 1, 2008 @ 9:45 pm

its amazing to see the racism going back and fourth all the mainlanders get all upset about being called haole, then people like edwin up there turn around and call us hawiians ugly and that should become extinct. golden rule punk treat others how you want to be treated. if some one treats you bad treat um nice or dont even bother an eye for eye never solved nothing. yea i love hawaii born and raised. and honolulu? looking for nicer people and less crap your on the rong side of the island hell i dont like honolulu so u know what stop bitching about how much hawaii sucks and learn to suck it up. go cry to some one that cares

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Comment by ktownheros — July 1, 2008 @ 9:49 pm

these people sound absolutely horrible. I wish the government would take them up on their wish of being a monarchy so they’d fall apart (i mean that seems to be what they are asking for)

the only problem i have with this blog is that i have repeatedly seen comparisons concerning the south. I must say that most of these comments are incorrect, seeing as how we lost the civil war we have had to conform and adapt more than any other region into being accepting. I have friends of every race and where i live it’s just a part of life that everyone else is different. So in conclusion i really do not see how hawaiians are like southerners whatsoever (from what i’ve read here it is preposterous that they are even being compared).

As to the military readers i thank you for all you do for me and every american, even if it means serving these hateful people (yes people, although i would love to say worse, but that would not be proactive-which “native/home grown” hawaiians are apparently not).

Comment by goodgosh — July 2, 2008 @ 3:43 am

i really hate this place,is pure hell,i dont have nothing nice to say about hawaii.
the state of hawaii ,stole my foreign born child and drug him.
the only reason i stay here is because someday i hope she became part of my life again.
the child is not american and they finish my parental right.
how come? when in our country i still have all my rights as a parent.
this is like the case of elian gonzales the cuban child.the only different is i dont make this history
public in the local tv
.so i’m suffering in secret.
if this family take her out of usa,and example take the girl to visit her country of birth
,this americans will be charge with kidnapping my daughter.
they are mean,they are evil ,they make up false accusations
.all this attorney,social workers and
hawaii judges are involved in these dirty business.

Comment by liza — July 3, 2008 @ 4:50 am

I was born in Hawaii, have lived in Boston, and currently live in Beijing, China. I have travelled all over, and have learned that I can find good, nice people ANYWHERE.

But to be honest, Hawaiian people are just nicer. Aside from the fact that people very RARELY honk their horns in Hawaii (usually just a wave and a smile), my family story should hopefully encouraged those unhappy people living in Hawaii. My mom was “haole”, but she stayed in Hawaii and became a “kama’aina”, which means local. The term haole, as orignally discussed in earlier posts, literally means foreigner. Some racist locals use the term to empower themselves, but shouldn’t reflect that ALL Hawaiians (ethnically or by birth) use the term in such ways. My mom, as a white woman, has lived in Hawaii for 28 years. Try calling her a haole, and you’ll have all her local friends on you in a short breath.

As a half-Samoan, half-American German, I guess my brown skin exempts me from empathy for those whom have experienced the “haole” epithet. But I can say that I have lived in Beijing, where no matter WHAT KIND of foreigner I am, I will ALWAYS be a foreigner. And in Boston, I was ALWAYS the Hawaiian, and would often be asked “what are you?” In short, especially in areas of Europe and Asia,and even in North America, being different because of skin color or accent is SO much worse and pervasive.

Hawaii, on the other hand, is a melting pot of cultures of all colors and varieties. If one can dedicate some time to it, and learn to enjoy the “island life”, he or she can, as my mom did, be treated as a “kama’aina”. It’s just hard for some people to do that, and often I find these people write in a blog. But I find that those who find it hard are really making it harder on themselves by complaining about it rather than proactively doing something about it. If a “haole” lives in Hawaii for short term, insulates him/herself in an apartment in downtown, frequents Ala Moana Beach Park and Cold Stone Creamery, he/she is NOT getting the Hawaii experience.

On another note, that I hope doesn’t detract from my previous tone — I find all this talk of racism rather interesting. From Beijing, my international perspective clearly identifies some major and important cities like Miami, Los Angeles, and Honolulu, that are ultimately the “best” of America. These cities often represent what America was always meant to be — a melting pot of peoples, economic classes, cultures and activities/events. These cities are also ones in which “white” people, english-native speakers, etc., aren’t the majority. Although I can totally understand all the comments about missing the four seasons(I have been freezing my Island Boy Ass off in Boston and Beijing for too long), and the wide open spaces of the mid-west, it is hard for me to hold any sympathy for people who experience RACIST HAWAII (ahhh!!) I mean, Hawaii is often cited as a TOP worldwide destinations to visit due to both its natural beauty AND it’ culture/people. To complain about people who live in Hawaii being racist is not only misleading and unfortunate, but is also somewhat, for lack of a better word, pussy. I think such unsatisfied people should learn to be part of the minority, and rise above the pressure. Hawaiians are generally accepting once they sense that people visiting or staying short term are generally intersted and dedicated to the culture, and arent in Hawaii just because they were either put there for a tour of duty, are on vaction or just wanted a change of scenery.

Dedicating oneself and showing invested interest are all part of the full Hawaii experience, and can ultimately be very rewarding. I mean, my mom has a tan, lives on a beach, has friends from South Africa, Brazil and Japan over at the house all the time, travels to the US frequently, and married my surfing-golfing-canoeing, MIT-grad Samoan-dad. Where else can you get that, without the smog?

Comment by Andrew — July 6, 2008 @ 11:30 am

To clarify the “pussy” comment, racism in any form is offensive and unmistakably unnecessary. I just find it interesting and SOMEWHAT hilarious that some people of the “white” variety find Hawaii to be racist and uncomfortable, considering it is one of the ONLY cities (aside from Atlanta, Miami, parts of LA or San Juan) in the US that white people aren’t the majority! For those experiencing or FEELING the pervasive effects of “Hawaii’s Racism”, you might be making it worse than it actually is. Often, in such circumstances, people will convince themselves that an environment that is comprised of various different and exotic factions is HOSTILE when, in fact, it isn’t IF he/she puts some effort into understanding said environment.

If we all lived in a comfortable world, we would all be homogenous and no one would stand out — like the Han Chinese, who make up 92% of China’s population.

Furthermore, something “foreigners” might not understand, is that the culture of Hawaii is often more embracing about both UNDERSTANDING other cultures and making fun/poking fun at other cultures. It’s just a very Hawaiian thing — makes us all have thicker skin.

Comment by Andrew — July 6, 2008 @ 11:40 am

Actually, Hawaii is just as portrayed on Dog the bounty hunter. A bunch of meth heads that can’t read until they are 14. The truth is that haole is a derogatory word, military members are treated like crap and Hawaiians are mean spirited people. Aloha means “give me your money tourist” and nothing else. The dumping of sewage into the sewers is a perfect metaphor for Hawaii. Like the hookers walking the streets with the cops permission. Hawaii is a dirty waste and I don’t think it would be racist for anyone else in the world to wish native hawaiians were extinct. The disgust that permeates the islands is terrible. Either side of the islands, leeward or windward, is foul. The fact that hawaiian schools are consistently the worst in the nation is not a coincedence. Hawaiians are truly backwards people and no comparison to the U.S. south are appropriate. Hawaii is more like a disgusting pile of festering crap. One other thing should be annotated; Hawaiians ate James Cook. They try to deny it, but they are a bunch of meth head cannibals that can’t read, and inbreed. I feel my statements really sum the islands up well.

Comment by Chad — July 6, 2008 @ 7:38 pm

I think the best thing to say is that all places have their ups and downs and the islands are the same. It is the Hawaiian people that are total wastes of DNA. The hawaiians are nothing more than ignorant curs that need to be euthanized. The waste that is Oahu is only a waste because of the locals. It is as if the most disgusting scum of the earth was planted on one place to fester until white domination came to try to make them better. It is the white mans task to either eliminate all hawaiian or fight to educate them.

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I once considered moving to Hawaii for the weather. I haven’t done so. I have never been to Hawaii, so I cannot make a judgment about it until I’ve seen it for myself. I have heard stray negative comments about the state here and there but never made much of them. Then I read this site, and it’s scary. I didn’t realize that there was that much negative opinion about the place. To the people who have had both good and bad experiences in Hawaii, is it still worthwhile to take a vacation there? How is Maui, as either a vacation spot, or a place to live? To all Howard Stern fans, BaBa Booey and Artie Rules! Thanks!

Comment by The Whole Truth And Nothing But The Truth — July 7, 2008 @ 8:51 am

The Hawaiins want us to come here and respect them and their “aina” land. When I first got here we were taking a drive to the beach and needed to wait until a tow truck removed an abandoned car. These people abandon their junked vehicles right on the beaches. While we were waiting for the driver to remove the car we walked to the ocean thru a campsite. The campsite was disgusting, so while we waited we cleaned it up taking a 33 gal trash bag full + many large items. And by the way,
we had to wait about 20 min but the local man who drove the truck didn’t even wave or thank us for patiently waiting and cleaning up the beach while we were waiting, we just got the “stink eye”.
I live on the Big Island and there are more dumps then any other place I have ever lived but people just dump their trash right along the sides of the highways sometimes just a few feet from the entrance to a dump site. We white people (haoles) have far more respect for the land than do the local people. I have seen white people cleaning the highways but have never seen any local folks doing this.
The original meaning of the word “haole” was “without breath” or basicly without a soul, not really originally meant to describe
the color of your skin. The word “nigger” original meaning is “a stupid person” not really meant to describe the color of someone’s skin also. So I guess if the locals can call me a haole, I feel I can call them niggers because that is what they really are.
They are dirty ignorant people who have no respect for the land, and if they think it is only their land they are wrong. Hawaii is part of the USA and I have just as much a right to ask that they respect “my land”.
This is a dirty ugly place, and the only areas that anyone cares about is the areas frequented by tourists. Go off the beaten path and you will be amazed at how poorly they care about their land.
Locals do not recycle and hardly even turn in their redemption items, they just toss them out along the side of the highway.
At least in third world countries you can sympathize because there is not the resources or the education for the people to do any better. What is the people of Hawaii’s excuse? This state makes some of the third world countries look good!
Anyone thinking of moving here please reconsider. This is not paradise or even close to it. This is a dirty ugly place dominated by rascist pigs.

Comment by Dee — July 7, 2008 @ 1:08 pm

Congratulations on being the number 1 result in Google for Hawaii sucks. This is a great topic and I agree with you 100%. I had the misfortune of growing up in Hawaii. My dad was military and I went to school there from 1st through 4th grade. My days in school were torment and every afternoon a gang of punks would chase me around. I have nothing but contempt for the people of Hawaii.

Comment by Doug — July 8, 2008 @ 12:04 am

I’m a puerto rican japanese born in the most governmental or haole (if you’d like to call it) place in the nation. Washington D.C. I grew up here in hawaii and have never been called haole or have seen a racial beating. I usually see people get beat up because of their own stupidity i.e military people that are on leave, docked ships and people on vacation. If you put two and two together, these elements plus alcohol you get the result of what other commenters are calling racial beatings. You see, there is nothing against these people it’s just that most of the people in the categories I have mentioned are mixing alcohol with their uncontrolable feelings. what do you do on vacation? Drink, how about from being stressed and you get a vacation in the military? Drink…Most people in these situations get toasted beyond recognition, which causes them to act inappropriatly in public which in turn gets them their ass handed to them. There is an occasional beating by maybe a drug addict or drunk local, but this happens anywhere in the U.S.
Well to the threads that say pidgin english makes you sound incompetent, you should take a look at the pidgin english history. It evolved from multiple languages invented by field workers of every nationality. They used this language to understand each other, so…what I mean is this. They took words from every language and adopted this into pidgin english. Like tako which is japanese for octopus they say tako poke which is a local dish, now if it were to be a hawaiian language. Why not call it he’e poke, he’e being the hawaiian word for octopus. This goes for words incoperated into pidgen from chinese language, hispanics korean, hawaiian. This means if you speak pidgen you speak a little bit of all the languages that they derived from. Now do you call that incompetent? How many of you can speak multiple languages?
Yes haole means foreigner and you will not be called a haole because your white skinned, Take a look at one of hawaii’s most loved and listened to musicians Kapena his skin is white and no one would dare consider him as a haole. I think that people who consider themselves haole after being here for years are ignorant fools that could not adapt to the ways of hawaii and rather have the stuck up non-friendly ways of other states and cultures imprinted so deep in their brain that you are the true definition of haole. Meaning, not saying thank you after I let let in front of me driving, tossing your cigarette butts and garbage out the window of your car and having an attidude like you own the world. Where can you go in America that you let someone change lanes in front of you and you get a big fat shaka braddah sign hangging out the window. Where can you go to your neigbors house to pick lychee or mango off da tree. Have you ever had Li hing mui, shave ice with ice cream and azuki beans in the bottom from matsumoto’s, pickled mango, or bought pasteles and gandule rice off the side of the road? If you’ve been in hawaii for years and answered no, then yes you are sill haole and cannot adapt to become local. Where else can you visit your friends house and the sign at the door says please remove shoes, but no switch for one bettah pair when you leave. Mainland people don’t even take off their shoes in the house, gross! This is not a hawaiian tradition but a japanese tradition adopted into hawaii. This is the only place where you can see a click of friends not all of one race but one white, one black, one puertorican and one phillipino all hanging out together. There’s no such thing as a mexican gang fighting a vietnamese gang or other. That’s because everone here is mixed nationallity and you’d be fighting yourself. You see local people get along with every culture, skin color and race. If you are haole now and moved here, eventually when you toss your shoes wear some slippahs kick back and relax find out what kulolo taste like and buy one rice cake from da manapua truck and let your haole tensions go. You will truly become and be accepted as a local. So we welcome haoles to visit snd to stay, become a local and live the way. As for the person who started this thread and the ones who hate hawaii go back to the mainland cause you so haole you don’t even know you haole, haole and you always going be haole, but no worry we so loving hea, when you ready fo come back an forgive yourselves. We will accept you back with a warm aloha, da uncles’ an auntys’ going take kea you. and da kahunas’ too.

Shaka braddah to all our troops protecting da islands an da nation. If you tink no locals love an appriciate you, dis one does an many more. Keep up da good work!

Dis comment dedicated to my braddahs and sistahs in S.F. you know who you are. We miss you at home.

Comment by japarican — July 8, 2008 @ 2:49 pm

In 2 years of living in Hawaii (thank god for free, I was a pilot with housing provided) I can safely say the paradise you’re seeking is 2000 miles south (Tahiti), Europeans and Tahitian only, other by invitation (sorry, and I don’t live in Tahiti, currently in Alaska).

Now back to the topic… as I was saying Hawaii does suck, I have never, ever in my life met a bigger bunch of self-deserving little punks than the locals that inhabit Hawaii, they talk of respect, yet give none, talk of culture, yet have none, talk of Aloha, yet exhibit none, talk of paradise, yet the only paradise is in scenery only.

I used to hear about how Haoles and tourists are destroying the precious Aina (I used to get in my Aina destroyer every morning and go around destroying all the Aint, oh wait I didn’t, that’s all the locals with their 2 MPG monster trucks, my bad), and you know what, it’s not tourists or Haoles polluting your beaches, they’re not the ones drinking 40s of shitty beer with all their Waianae ghetto punk ass friends on the beach.

Comment by PB — July 8, 2008 @ 5:02 pm

A young white man by the name of Chritopher Ruether from North Carolina was murdered in 2007. He was on the beach taking pictures when some local ice head sucker punched him, then took his wallet when he was unconscious. He died two days later. Mr. Ruether was attacked and killed because he was white.
They tried to use the defense that Mr. Ruether lunged at the local man but there were plenty of witnesses who testified that he was attacked “without provocation”.
The local man was convicted on manslaughter but was not taken into custody and was allowed to go home until the sentencing in Sept.
The local punk showed no remorse for the murder. The media practically portrayed the murder as justified because the poor local was an ice addict and needed the money.
If you vacation in Hawaii stay in a group. Do not make eye contact with the locals. Treat them like you would a wild animal, no eye contact and slowly walk away but do not turn your back on them.
If it had been a white man who killed a local he would not have been sent home to be with his family, he would have been taken into custody immediately and probably attacked and killed in jail.
This is a dangerous place to visit and especially to live. I live in fear everyday.
Do not let your children come here. When my children visit they think I am crazy but I will hardly let them go anywhere especially by themselves.
What you have read on this blog is true and its only getting worse. They all went out and bought big SUVs and minivans, and with gas and food prices rising as they are everywhere, they are taking their frustration out on the haoles as they always do.
My heart goes out to the family of this young man. How many more white people have to die on these islands before the Feds do something about it. They would not allow the blatant rascism you see here on the mainland.

Comment by Citizen — July 10, 2008 @ 11:36 pm

Ok, I’ve read this whole thing tonight and I can finally put my 2 cents in.

I’ve lived here 2 1/2 years (6 mos to go, thank God) and I absolutely cannot wait to leave. Everything negative that you’ve read about this is absolutely 100% true. Think of it like this: most of these people found and posted on this site because they felt distressed and needed a place to vent. I happened upon this site because I was looking to see if any other people were having serious issues with their internet connection here. What I found was so much better.. this. Words cannot explain my distaste for this place. Me and everyone I work with seriously wishes we could take away their right to be a state. I mean let’s face it, our territories are more deserving of the honor.

Get this, this was my first experience here: My wife flies in after I get settled in and we decide to go get some mexican food. (NOTE: We have come to the realization that the best mexican food is Taco Bell… sadly, it’s true) Well, we find this one restaurant and decide to call them for directions. My wife calls, hangs up and calls for a second time. A few minutes later she’s obviously frustrated and gives the phone to me. Puzzled, I call the number and a man answers, “Hello? Is this (restaurant name)?” “Yah, it is.”, he replies.
“Ok, good, where are you located?” “Uh, just down the street, bra.” “But you don’t know where I’m calling from. What’s your address?” “Uh, I don’t know, we’re not open yet.” (I’m starting to understand my wife’s frustration at this point.) “Ok, can you tell me what’s near you so I can find it?” “Ah, c’mon man, everyone knows where we’re at” “Then why am I calling for directions?”… then he hangs up.

Little did I know that this would define my experience here. Look, I’m all about new cultures, I’ve been all over the world and believe it or not there are different ways of living than what we see in America. A lot of the cultures had very appealing aspects that we could take a clue from. Hawaii is NOT one of them. Hawaii, it seems, is suffering from a culture vacuum. Hawaii is struggling so hard identify with something.. anything… that it has lost itself along the way… and replaced it with anger and hatred.

Hell, the most culture I’ve seen here is Japanese. My wife and I joke that at least we could just go to the REAL Japan (if you lived here you’d know what I mean and probably laugh).
I hear all this “Free Hawaii” crap a lot, too. Let’s just give it back to them. I give it 3 mos and they’d either be begging the US to take them back, or Japan would move in. I could really go on and on here, but I’m getting off-track. To sum it up, I don’t think the world would miss this place if it sank. I know I won’t. I might miss the weather, but there are only about 100 other tropical places that are better anyway.

Comment by sojourner — July 11, 2008 @ 3:04 am

Oh and one more thing (haha I’m on a role now) all this “you stole our lands” whining really needs to stop. That was centuries ago and besides, if we didn’t take it someone else would’ve. The island is too strategically located for anyone to let it go. On the other hand, if no one took it over, then Hawaii would be no more civilized than Papua, New Guinea. Trust me, you’d better be glad you don’t live like that. It’s a very hard lifestyle with no amenities that I’m sure we’re all accustomed.

Comment by sojourner — July 11, 2008 @ 3:12 am

i lived in waianae for the last 13 years went to highschool there got jobs there so if anybody knows about racial intolerance its me um yes “hawaiians” aka philipinos samoans other bull are extremley racist and they think theres nothing wrong with it im originall from south carolina i got something for them come live in sc for a month that’ll knock em down a few notches man give the island back to em and take all of our contributions to “eh bra no more 711 now no more get malt liquer” STFU u racist egotistical Fu*%s

Comment by Andrew — July 12, 2008 @ 4:17 pm

one more thing this is pretty racist but what the hell i deserve to say it after what ive been through hey hawaiians ur not black quit dressin like it urn ot 50 cent and one more thing have uve ever really looked at the hawaiian people? yea not for me not the prettiest people ive ever seen and if one miltary personnel gets beat up over there im gonna flip and start sprayin shells god i hate oahu BOYCOTT hawaii let em starve without tourism

Comment by Andrew — July 12, 2008 @ 4:21 pm

Comment to Japrican…I lived in the south and didn’t have to eat grits and fritters to avoid getting beaten up. Why do I have to eat what you do to not get attacked and possibly killed. The trucker who intentionally ran me off the road last week (almost killing me) had no idea that I don’t eat poi or spam. He just saw the color of my hair and skin.
The locals expect to shove their lifestyle down our throats and if we don’t accept it we are “haoles”.
If the locals want to eat dogs and live like trash that is their right but I should not be forced to accept their ways. Many local people have told me that they have their pet dogs and their “meat dogs”. I refuse to accept your ways.
I will be gracious and respect your land but I will not be forced to accept your ways.
After reading this blog about Christopher Ruether, I found that he was not drunk on alcohol. He might have smoked a little paka.lolo with some of the locals on the beach. Ruether was murdered because he was white!
What I fear is that someday some local is going to push too hard and just like Andrew commented the “haole” is going to “start spraying shells”. Those shells could strike someone in your family, your child or your parents. Eventually your hatred and violence is going to turn against you and you will have no one to blame but yourselves.

Comment by Citizen — July 14, 2008 @ 12:24 pm

Just one more comment about the fact that violence begets violence.
In the sixties I saw a debate on TV between Stokely Carmicheal (one of the founders of the Black Panther Party) and Allen Ginsberg (a peace/love advocate). Several times during the debate between these two men it would go to a panel of psychiatrists. Their opinion was that Stokely Carmicheal’s views and reactions of the violence perpetrated against the black man was, “If he kills me, I will kill him” was a normal reaction and that most people will react in that way of an “eye for an eye”. I agree with one comment made about these islands being ripe for White Supremists. I am surprised that they haven’t established a stronghold here. They would definitely be capable of returning the violence and hatred the locals accept as a way of life towards white folks.

Comment by Citizen — July 14, 2008 @ 12:48 pm

Yeah, but even white supremacists aren’t stupid enough to want to look at a Hawaiian.

Comment by PB — July 14, 2008 @ 6:39 pm

oahu sucks and so does this thread its like ‘nam unless youve been in the shit you dont know wtf your talkin about DO HAWAIIANS RESENT WHITES UM YES END OF THREAD

Comment by Andrew — July 14, 2008 @ 9:18 pm

all of you keep talking about hawaiian culture…what culture? all the culture i have seen since i have been here is fat ugly people with broken down cars, beat up houses, tarps everywhere full of druggies, free hand outs, ice heads, more ugly people, big gas consuming trucks, so-called hawaiians crapping on the beach, dumping their crap in the ocean (saw it), idiots who take up any cause just so they don’t have to go to work (work is a dirty word in the hawaiian language)un-educated stupid people having more babies that will either end up on drugs or under a tarp…and litter. i think the garbage dumps in new york are cleaner, in fact i know they are. can’t wait to leave this disgusting, filthy place. this is worse than a third world country. and really i have never in my life seen more fat people, i am talking 4 spins.

Comment by KLS — July 15, 2008 @ 12:35 am

hi everyone,
I am born and raised in hawaii. attended public school and the university of hawaii. i am not hawaiian. i am 100 percent japanese. most of you came here and spent about 2 yrs and hated it. its cool, because hawaii is a bit of a tricky place to live. so, here are some pointers

if you dont speak pidgin, dont try it, dont even attempt it. over time some pidgin will come natural to you, but until then, dont try it.

dont go to some dumb shit mexican restarant, or some hole in the wall shithole for grub. are you mental? I dont even do that. its freeking hilarious to see new commers going into some shady business thinking they are going gain some kind of cultural experience. this is like seeing, for example, tourists from japan visiting los angeles, and then trying to get directions to some hotdog or burrito joint in like south central. its just plain stupid.

fact, whites are a minority here. but this is not really a big issue. some of my best friends are white. dont think that just because you got into some beaf or was treating wrong that it was because you are white.

In hawaii, we use racial comments everyday. and its really normal. you folks from the mainland just got to get down with this. me im a fucken jap or a japanee…a chinese is a fuckin chang a filipino is a fuckin flip, a polynesian is a fuckin moke, a portugues is a fuckin poch, a black is a fuckin popolo,,and a white is a fuckin haole. shit man, but the only people really getting offended here is whites, be cool.

hawaii is an island. you got ghetto places mixed in with nice places. so try to stay in a nice condo or in a area where all the homes are high in price. do not live in those 2 story walk ups. do not live in downtown, kalihi, liliha, eva, waianae, nanakuli, makaha, and any area around it. if you do, you are stupid because i wouldnt even live there.

I know you folks from the midwest like to be clean cut. its cool, but you dont have to iron your t shrits and shorts. and you dont have to tuck em in. in hawaii you are a goofball and you might get eyes. i mean shit man, dont iron your t shirts..damn

hawaii kinda has a class system. if you come here and you end up not making decent income. you will live in a crappy area and will be around the more ignorant folks. and they will call you a haole or what ever and you might get into beefs. just like if you moved to any other city and dont make decent money and end up living in poor areas… you will be called a white boy or what ever and you might have to buy a gun right.

in hawaii we treat our guests(toursts) super good. I mean super good. but thats where it might end. dont expect to move here and have your neighbors and scool teachers and what not great you with aloha and flower leis and such… idiot…lol tourism is hawaiis number one industry and we are serious about it. please understand this business concept.\

ok folks, if you want any questios answered id be happy to answer them, so shoot em .

shaka!

Comment by hellopeople — July 15, 2008 @ 7:41 pm

Comment to hellopeople…you people just don’t get it. We do not want to be like you. If we want to iron our shirts we should be given the freedom to do that without being attacked verbally or physically.
I feel so sorry for you, being raised here, you appear to know very little about how the rest of the world lives.
I have felt so much hatred from the Japanese here, even though most of what I see is a mixture of Japanese with micronesian or hawaiin. Some businesses run by Japanese here make it very clear that they do not hire whites.
The only question I have for you, is your tourism “business concept”. A lot of people who come here on vacation see the slums and feel the hatred. They will not come back, and not only that they will tell at least 6-20 friends or family members of their negative experiences. The people who are forced to live here because of their jobs will also tell people what they have experienced here. So your business plan stinks.
Tourism is shrinking in Hawaii, and this started way before the rise in the cost of fossil fuel. High tech industry won’t come here because the kind of employees they would need to run their businesses won’t live here.
I guess you can continue to rely on the Japanese tourist, and hopefully the speculation that the Chinese will come here. But to base your economy totally on tourism is a piss poor business plan.
If we truly go into a real recession/depression, Hawaii is screwed because people from the mainland will not spend the money to come here.
They will vacation in the Florida Keys, or the Sonoma wine country, Costa Rica and other many lovely places that far outshine Hawaii in almost every way.
If Hawaii really cared about their “business plan” they would take care of their land ie no raw sewage spills, they would find the money to fix walls that have fallen down, they would have a school system that would help attract young professionals, they would educate their people that racism and discrimination is illegal and immoral, they would raise their children to respect people for who they are, not judging them by the color of their skin or how they wear their shirts. They would stop beating and killing white people ie the murder of Christopher Ruether and the brutal beating of a young military couple.
I feel so sorry for you.

Comment by Citizen — July 16, 2008 @ 10:50 am

Hawaii Sucks

I’m not here to rant but to feel obligated to share my experience and perspective with those considering a move to Hawaii. I wish no ill, misfortune, or malaise to the state or the citizens. We own a home on Oahu and have nothing against any individuals but as a collective community Hawaii is an absolutely wretched place. PERIOD.

Our family (wife & 3 yo son) have lived on Oahu for nearly two years. We’re both coastal Californian natives so our baseline style is quite casual and laid back to start with but we found that ignorance, incompetence, intolerance, indolence, inefficiency, hypocrisy, hostility, apathy, and negligence dominate every part of society in Hawaii. These characteristics pervade at even the highest professional levels including the medical and legal sectors. It’s fairly disturbing to be honest and living daily life in such an environment becomes very troubling and impactful over time. It amuses for a bit but the novelty of it all wears away rapidly, especially when it results in life altering consequences as it has for us.

Aloha spirit is a pathological myth. It’s a false and delusional identity only existing in the inane fictions of people such as those who post here supporting and defending it. In no way is it a broadly reliable attribute of the culture and there is no basis whatsoever for the pro-hawaii arguments. It’s not as if everyone is in on some active conspiracy, it’s just that the general population is catastrophically myopic and blissfully fatuous due to the inexplicable self-righteousness, sense of entitlement, and narrowly focused resentments that shape generational mindsets here. The dilapidation and decay of the infrastructure is a direct reflection of the dilapidation and decay of humanity and moral fiber among peoples.

And no, I’m not some elitist type. We’re a very hard working middle class family that until now dwelled in atmospheres where things like dignity, competence, personal accountability, self-awareness, ambition, and unconditional kindness were readily evident. Don’t expect much, if any, of all that in Hawaii. The same deficiencies exist everywhere in the world of course but never have I seen it accepted as the given order like here and I’ve worked across North America and in 15 other countries of various developmental stages.

Yes, many posters will express quite different rationalizations and views and that is just fine, these are all just personal opinions here. I just STRONGLY encourage those pondering a westward migration to vigorously consider all the cautionary comments to be found here as they are an accurate reflection of our experience. We’ve obviously had many great experiences and known many wonderful people but on balance the woe prevails by a SIGNIFICANT margin.

Aloha and good luck.

PS - My only disagreement with what’s been said here thus far is that overt hostility towards mainlanders/foreigners is not rampant per se, you will just be ignored and ostracized relative to others.

Comment by cbdg — July 16, 2008 @ 1:56 pm

I would not attack you because you iron your shirt. come on, get a grip. infact you are probably more safer in hawaii then in such places like LA, chicago, philly, NY and such. only thing is in hawaii you dont really have a huge white community to run to. Im sorry about that. its just the way it is. now some of you made some comments about the people of hawaii but i would wish for you folks to be a bit more specific. i mean just saying that the people are ignorant, incompetant, intolerant, and what have you makes you seem a bit arrogant or maybe egocentric, or maybe just an ass. tell me something specific and Ill be more that happy to help. maybe not help but at least show you some empathy.

Comment by hellopeople — July 16, 2008 @ 7:22 pm

I also do not enjoy Hawaii. I am from the south and I have seen racism. There is so much more here. It is everywhere no matter what race you are. I live in Kapolei, which I do love this area. It is far different from any other place on this island in my opinion. My neighbors are wonderful, some local, some military. The English is understandable. Every single change to improve things around here is fought by the local because it is losing some type of their heritage. By locals I mean the filipinos. I have not once met an actual islander. Most of the people I have a problem with are those that are filipino. They claim I am a haole and do not belong here, and that I need to leave. Well if you know anything military people cannot simply pick up and leave we are in a contract to stay here for so long. I personally had no choice about coming here. It definitely was not on my wish list. Also the children here are raised so much different than what I am used to. Of course not all parents raise their children the same but, I see a huge problem with parents not watching their children. I think everytime I have gone to a store I see a child being left unattended. I always wait to ensure someone comes back to the child. I waited for 10 minutes at one store and finally got so angry (after seeing the 2-3 year old strip down to her diaper to try on clothes) I went to the front to complain to see if mabye children’s services could come. And of course as soon as I got to the front desk (my husband was watching the little girl) the mother came. Yesterday at the store, I watched a manager walk over to the girl left unattended in the shoping cart (or wagon) and correct her for messing up all the clothes on the rack and two minutes later the mother came up looking all drugged up and got the wagon and walked on. I didnt even see interaction with the child. There is a big issue here with that. But hey, maybe that is just a coincedence. I know that where I grew up parents stayed near their children while shopping and if someone else had to say something to their child there would be some type of scolding or something. And if someone left their child unattended in the store and the employees were knew about it, the authorities were called and so were social workers. I hate the school systems around here. Luckily, I live in Kapolei which is a good school system. It is incredibly boring here, unless you love the beach. I constantly have to worry about my car being broke into or did I close my garage and lock the door. Where I am from you can leave your door wide open along with your garage and be gone all day and nothing will be gone. Another gripe, You have to really know the island to find a good place to eat. Or know people who know places. Come on is Mexican food really that difficult to cook? Granted there are a few good restraunts at reasonable prices, but there are only a FEW. The shopping is horrible here. Thank goodness Target is finally coming. The houses are horrible. I am lucky again that I live in Kapolei with a nice house, but as far as the rest of the island houses, they look like shacks or they are just falling apart (or so they look like it). The roads are about the worst in the nation. I have driven through much of the United States and I can say that from personal experience.I am very happy they are actually going to put in a railsystem here. It should have been done years ago to fight the horrible traffic issues and to help preserve the already crappy roads. For the population here in Hawaii you would think they would have more recyling programs as well.Oh, one good thing is the public library system. I absolutely love that here. I really hope that the next location I get sent to has a similar library system. So props to Hawaii on that. Seriously, the best time I have had on this island was when I stayed at the hotel and the staff thought I was a tourist. I will never move back to Hawaii. If they try to make me with the military I will seperate. That is it. I do not want to move back here ever. Even “locals” that move to the mainland, do not want to come back. As far as visiting, maybe I might come back, because the hotels here are amazing. Expensive but you get what you pay for.
All of this is personal experiences, observations, and there is nothing you can say to change it.
oh yeah, on the word Haolie. It is a racist word. It might have once came from a word meaning something non racist but has definitely changed over the years and should not be used when conversing with someone. It is the same as the word nigger. Nigger started out as another meaning and has developed into a very popular racist word. Back in the day, nigger was also a color or race written on surveys for people to say they are African-American. Over time, it has became completely unacceptable. I personally do not find offense to be called haolie, a foreigner..because being from somewhere else is so much better than being from this place. But other friends do find the word very offensive. Therefore, it is racist. And actually recently one person did use the word in a fight with a white person and they were charged with a hate crime. That is because it is NOW a racist word. People who are racist are ignorant. I do not like this place and alot of the people but I do love some of the people I have met here and will become life-long friends with them.So I did come here with an open mind and I will take some of the customs with me, but overall this place does suck.

For those that read this post, yes I know that it is very disorganized and not very cohesive but it is late and I am typing based on what I am thinking and feeling, so I give my apologies.

Comment by cally — July 19, 2008 @ 5:51 am

Oh and i Just went up a little and read a comment from some local saying how there are racial comments for all walks of life here and the whites are the only ones that are upset about it and that us mainlanders just need to accept it. Um, no. I will never accept someone just being outright disrespectful to me. It is not okay to talk to someone like that anywhere. It doesnt matter what race the person is. If you really cant think of anything more intelligent to say other than fu* filipino or fu* Jap, you really need to go back to school, and be schooled. Maybe you can think of a better dis something so easy as that.

And No one wants to be like the current Hawaii. People are in love with the Hawaiian culture, which is not existent anymore. People buy Aloha shirts becuase it is like buying I heart NY shirts. I especially dont want to be like people from here. I like the southern ways better, where no matter whether you are a visitor or someone who just moves to the state you are welcomed with open arms. Neighbors bring over a freshly baked pie which is the equivalent of a lei. And it doesnt matter whether that new neighbor is black, white, brown, or yellow.

Comment by cally — July 19, 2008 @ 6:05 am

Well said cally. I agree completely with you. My wife and I was driving downtown last weekend and saw two little kids walking down the sidewalk. The eldest couldn’t have been over five and the second child looked to be around three. No adults anywhere to be seen. In hindsight, I should’ve called the cops and that is my mistake, but that was probably the hundredth time we’ve seen that sort of thing here. Ugh, 6 months to go.

Comment by sojourner — July 19, 2008 @ 3:11 pm

well im sorry that many of you felt so unpleasant being here in hawaii. your neighbors didnt like you and you didnt like them. just an unfortunate situation.
I want to explain a bit about Kapolei. Kapolei is a rather small area with new home developements and new shopping areas. the city hopes that the area will attact residents and turn it into a thriving city. the state even calls it the “second city” and actively tries to promote it. I personaly believe that Kapolei will never be a city but rather a small suburban area. a small suburban area that is sandwiched between 2 of the most highly undesireable areas. just west of Kapolei is the whole waianae area. an area that is known for poverty, drugs, crime and such. just east of Kapolei is waipahu which is the same deal as waianae. waipahu also has lots of gangs, most of which are filipino gangs because the area is a filipino dominated neighborhood. but as long as you just stay in the general Kapolei area, you will be fine. but many times you will see residents from both the waianae and waipahu areas in kapolei to shop, eat , or watch movies. read my first post about places to to reside in. I should have added waipahu to the list which i didint but know now that waipahu is also a highly undesireable neighborhood. hawaii is not a perfect place but its what you make of it.

Comment by hellopeople — July 20, 2008 @ 3:05 pm

The best you can make of it is a majority of self righteous, undeserving and respect lacking punks, and the small minority that are good people fail to make up for the shortcomings of Hawaii, and Hawaiians at large, take Samoans… in Hawaii they’re largely among the scum that makes it such a horrible place, in Alaska they’re among the most hard working, pleasant and great people you could ever meet. Hawaii itself is nothing more than a pretty picture on a postcard.

Comment by PB — July 20, 2008 @ 8:09 pm

Im wondering if anyone here is black. what i find astonishing is how these haoles think that being called a haole is the same as black folks being called a nigger. I think you haoles got no right and that myfriends is what i might call self righteous.

Comment by hellopeople — July 20, 2008 @ 11:44 pm

I am of african american descent “hellopeople” and the way you talk is worse than any white dude that i have encountered in years and i feel sorry that racism is still so dominant in some places. Being from the south race issues have always been thrown at us, but what people from outside of the South don’t realize is that people here for the most part don’t put much stock into skin color as much as they used to. just another bad stereotype that ignorant people believe.

you on the other hand blatently insult these “haoles” here and you are the one coming off as stupid/ignorant/jack ass/moron/ flat out dumb shit. you aint helping your cause and yes you are the racist here! any form of word that is hateful to another’s race is as bad as the word nigger bc they all represent hate and ignorance

Comment by goodgosh — July 21, 2008 @ 3:45 am

tell me goodgosh why do black folks click to wig mode the instant they here the word “nigger”. what is it about the word nigger that makes black folks go all nuts even when its not being used in a derogatory manner or even being used to describe someone. you cant even say the phrase “niggahplease” or “whats up niggah” without having a black person feel insulted. what is the history or the big issue behind the word “nigger”

my take is this. you are not a black person “googgosh” . you sad piece of monkey anus. I cant believe a white person would pertend to be black and answer for black poeple here. the nerve of you haoles. unbelievable.

Comment by hellopeople — July 21, 2008 @ 2:54 pm

^^^ Way to go on proving how much of a racial utopia Hawaii is… either way you read that and whether or not anything that was said prior is true you just proved it, take Hawaii, take it all back and be that little 4th (not 3rd) world country you’re just longing to be, watch the tourism money dry up over the next few years and soon Oahu will be a bigger ghetto than Manila.

Comment by PB — July 21, 2008 @ 5:59 pm

I actally just moved here to hawaii from nj just recently and i’m still getting adjusted to everything. back home i lived n worked in a predominantly white area, being the only asian person working at a quiksilver store back in jersey but when i got sent over here i looked like all the locals. (I’m filipino). Anyway, I came across ur blog which is really interesting cuz I see it from both points of views. Honestly, I feel like what people call a ‘haole’ over here. Thank god I do not look like one and I sympathize for those who are called that. I was never really discriminated back home and to come to a place where I look like everyone else but see others who I would usually associate with being discriminated makes me feel frustrated. I don’t know the culture so much but there are some aspects of the whole overly nationalistic thing that bothers me. I thought coming to the most diverse state in the US and having the ‘aloha’ frame of mind was where I was headed but being here I realize there is an underlying aggression beneath all the cultural diversity.

Comment by trix — July 22, 2008 @ 2:01 am

are you saying that just because i went to college and got an education and can talk english that im not black- YOU ARE A PIECE OF SHIT fuckin punk bitch

where the fuck do you come off saying shit like that, you don’t come close to me

Comment by goodgosh — July 22, 2008 @ 2:42 am

i may not be your stereotypical ‘nigga’ hellopeople bc i work as an accountant with a bunch of white people but i’m not some ignorant racist like you

keep licking the scraps dog and keep yourself down

Comment by goodgosh — July 22, 2008 @ 2:47 am

goodgosh says “you are a piece of shit fuckin punk bitch”….hahahahaha
what a fool. now I know for sure you aint black. you sound like those immigrant chinese.
anyways here is something you might enjoy.

I’d like to mention something about language, there are a couple of terms being used a lot these days by guilty white liberals. The first is “Happens to be”
‘He happens to be black’
“I have a friend, who happens to be black”
like it’s a fuckin accident ya know. Happens to be black? Yes, he happens to be black.
He has two black parents?
Oh yes, yes he did.
And they fucked?
Oh indeed they did.
So where does the surprise part come in? I’d think it’d be more unusual if he just happened to be scandinavian.

The other term is openly. “He’s openly gay” that’s the only minority they use that for. You wouldn’t say someone is openly black well maybe James Brown. Or Louis Farrakhan, Louis Farrakhan is openly black. Colin Powell is not openly black, Colin Powell is openly white, he just happens to be black.
George Carlin

Comment by hellopeople — July 22, 2008 @ 1:42 pm

Dear readers and posters. First of all, HAWAII SUCKS, see my July 16 entry above for a full explanation of that opinion. Second, it would be very nice to see this thread move away from the shallow focus of race issues. I know it’s easy to feel passionate on that issue but it’s just one small aspect of why HAWAII SUCKS. Lets move beyond the obvious and hear some more personal evidence and testimony on the full range of reasons why HAWAII SUCKS.

Comment by cbdg — July 22, 2008 @ 6:00 pm

Bad schools
Bad drivers
Bad government
Bad way of life
Bad laws
Bad income
Bad mindset
Bad people (95%)
Bad business(es)
Bad everything, except the pretty picture it makes on a post card.

Comment by PB — July 22, 2008 @ 6:48 pm

Okay, so some of things you say about Hawaii are undeniably true, but the government always sucks. There’s always problems and corruptions but relax! That’s your problem. You come looking for a way to criticize a place that’s meant for relaxing.

I’m white, and guess what! I’ve been born and raised in Hawaii. The reason why we’re so “racially charged” is because of the way people don’t live here act. They’re inconsiderate and always have something bad to say about our home. You come here and act like you expect something perfect, then bitch when you figure out that OH MY GOD, WE’RE HUMAN!!! If we came and said it about your home, you would get sick of it and claim the same thing.

Has anyone met 95 percent of the people in Hawaii? Absolutely not. I know a lot of really nice people who aren’t like that. Bad businesses? Those who donate all the time to the healing economy? Starwood hotels donates so much and starts so many projects for the homeless. Bad income? Maybe. Bad way of life? Bad Laws? Bad Schools? Bad mindset? NO.

The hawaiian mindset is: Relax. Love everyone and just chill out. It’s the fact that you don’t know the true mindset that makes you think it’s messed up. I attended the school system, and I’m going to one of the top colleges in the country.

It’s ignorance by people like you people who spend not nearly enough time here to understand how the true Hawaii is.

The racial stuff? Most of it is in jokes and you people take it too seriously. Yes, many HAWAIIANS are sometimes racist, because the government was taken over by the US. That’s not all Hawaiians. There are a lot of states worse than us. You guys should maybe think about opening your narrow minds.

A lot of the culture here today is a mix. That’s what we pride ourselves on. I’m a japanese-HAOLE who loves spam and hawaiian jams. That’s our culture and pride. The polynesian cultural center? Yeah, that’s all really hokey stuff set up for your TOURIST minds. The real hula is still perpetuated by those who carry on the traditions of Hawai’i.

You know what? You don’t like Hawai’i? Get over it, stop complaining and
DONT COME HERE. Don’t waste time.

Comment by shana — July 22, 2008 @ 11:41 pm

Forgot to mention, you guys are turning yourselves into the same thing you claim Hawaiians are.

Half the things I read here are derogatory to us. If you weren’t so narrow minded you could see that. You group us into a general category of “illiterate, stupid, dirty, mean”. I’m none of those things.

Basically, I wouldn’t go near any of your ignorant, intolerant selves or states!

Comment by shana — July 22, 2008 @ 11:51 pm

I hate to say it, but Shana does have a point.
Hawaii is frustrating in many, many ways, but if someone like Shana can point out that we are being a bunch of Hawaii bashing thugs… then I guess we should take a drop of our own medicine.

I do not belive that the Hawaiian logo is “Love everyone”… but I do know that us being assholes wont change that.

Maybe we are looking at this all the wrong way?

Comment by Anti-Haole — July 23, 2008 @ 11:35 am

yes the hawaii culture is mixed, and very relaxed. not too many places you can wear a suit to.
I tell you one thing that sucks here nowdays is off shore fishing. no mo fish. caught 4 fish the last time i went fishing all humuhumu. now days you need a boat. I hear like 3 generations ago off shore fishing was really good. you could catch a variety of fish. I heared back in the day hawaii used to have clams and oysters. the clams are gone today and the oysters are poison due to pollution. no more lobsters and nomore ogo seaweed. now the opihi is hard to find and if yo find make sure its safe to eat.

Comment by hellopeople — July 23, 2008 @ 5:22 pm

I agree with your blog 100%. I’m an army wife stuck here, and when my husband deploys I will go back to the “mainland” where white people aren’t outcasts in their own country. It’s like reverse racism out here, this place is so backwards. If the military didn’t pump so much money into the economy here on Oahu this place would be NOTHING. These people hate the military but if we took all our shit and left this place would be a fucking third world country without us.

Comment by mela1130 — July 25, 2008 @ 10:27 pm

I agree with Mela1130. Ive said it several times myself. If we took away military and all the mainland stuff, you know because the mainland sucks, Hawaii would be a huge rock in the middle of the ocean.

Ive never been treated so bad anywhere, all the jobs are held for local people unless people are really needing employees, my husband who is in the navy hasnt done one thing to any of the locals and for some reason they dont like him.

He got fed up and asked this person what he had against him
the guy said “because military people come here and take our women” (but in pidgen)
my husband said “im married but even if i wasnt you say im so bad the women here wouldnt want me anyway”

i hear a new excuse everyday.

they just want something to hate. They know they couldnt have it as good as they do now and they cant stand it. They might actually have to something other then get high and steal everyone elses stuff.

And as far as the spirit of aloha goes that is non exsistent. people dont like us because we’re from the mainland, im here only because the military sent us here. And sorry Hawaiians, you better just suck it up because your part of the United States, like it or not, and the US military is going to come here. If we didnt Id like to see how open and vulnerable Hawaii would protect themselves.

If white people did steal away your island, as ive heard so many times, why dont you just get over it? Native Americans had there land taken away, women were raped and their whole civilization was pushed west. Ever hear of the trail of tears? Jews look how much they have gone thru! The holocaust, wandering 40 years thru the desert….The point is you dont have to forget, just forgive. Every culture has been thru crap its finding forgiveness that makes life go on. If someone stole something from my greatgrandparents and I spent all day hating them and there offspring everyone would think Im crazy.

Personally if I had the power to give all of Hawaii back I would. I dont want it. The ocean is beautiful, the clouds are beautiful, but the people make it ugly, not to mention the pollution, Ive never been the recycling type but after seeing all the waste here Im recycling everything.

Heres a great way for people here to do something with there lives. Go outside and pick up all the soda cans the litter Kam Highway. Its 5 cents a can ya know, 20 cans, and thats a dollar right there.
Maybe Tourists would stop coming if Hawaii was represented the way it really is. People coming to see the clear water and fish. They want to see hula dancers, and the closest thing Ive seen to a hula dancer is my neighbors kid using a hula hoop. Open you front door and just take a picture, now in alot of places its gonna be a nice picture but theres gonna be some pictures that are of the ghetto. Thats what people never see and some people are very suprised to see that.

If you want to be proud of Hawaii why dont you keep it clean? What does your house look like inside? or your car? You keep yourself looking nice at least I hope somewhat decent. Why cant you keep the ground outside picked up? Today I was sitting a red light and a woman walking with her daughter just crumpled a dorito bag and threw it on the ground. What is she teaching her kids? The earth isnt a trash can its our home. I do my part. Its honestly not that hard. I know littering is everywhere but since locals are so proud they should show there pride by making it look nice here.

And why is it that theres a child molester living in my building and yesterday a guy in the army was arrested because a local picked a fight with him because he was military? Someone serving our country is behind bars and someone who touches little children living in a building with little children is free. Wheres the f***ing justice?! This guys been to Iraq twice and somebody wants to give him sh*t because he’s from the mainland, white, and military, so he stood up for himself and the guy who started the fight wasnt arrested, he got to go home. Talk about corupt government!

It takes forever to get any kind of emergency service here. The cops dont care because theft is so common here. Well its gonna be if every officer is so damn lenient!! They dont want to get involved with the iced out people here either…its sad.

If Relax is the mindset, why does everyone hate so much here? They relax and love everyone but only if there local. I have met some very nice people here, only 2 of them are locals.

Pidgin isnt a language ok? its a dialect, there shouldnt be classes on how to speak it, you learn it from being around it as stupid as it is and how it sounds diaelcts are everywhere like how people in the south have a twang and people in the north dont say R’s so car would become ‘cah’ Ive never seen a poster for a Southern Accent course? Pidgin is alot of slang too, which they have every where else? Ever heard anyone say “Dawlin” or “Sugah” or have you ever “looked at the TV” instead of watching it? Every place has there strange ways of talking.

Ive figured what really pisses locals off tho, aside from everything. I was with a bunch of my friends We were at the beach and a group of locals started to say haole quite a bit. So we started calling each other haole even tho all of us weren’t white. We thought it was hilarious. It pissed them off more hearing us say it and laughing about it then it did for us to hear them say it. Im not offended by that word because I didnt grow up with that word. But i figure if its meant for me in that context then I can use it.

Plus my friends children go to school here and the parents of the children here wont let her kids play with theres because there blonde-haired and blue-eyed. Ive heard a mom say this to her son and my friend. Isnt that so F***KING stupid?!

I believe firmly that everyone can get along if they try but after living here for a year im done trying. I dont have to stay here, your absolutley right. But for now I do have to live here, home is where the military sends you! But once I leave, you dont have to worry you’ll never see my ass again! I cant wait to get home, where if your a visitor your welcome to stay and you are always welcome back.

and staring at the lake outside my window, what the deal with leptospirosis? LOL

Comment by Sarah — July 26, 2008 @ 2:36 pm

sarah. I find your post very hard to believe. if you were telling that story from the 60s I might believe it. but these days, the locals dont treat anyone like that. well, maybe you were just unlucky. I think most of your problem is psycological. you just asume the worst and promote bad things to happen. or maybe your just extreme butt ugly and everyone is just staring at you. I dont know. but your story is way off.
the military in hawaii. Ok, the military does spend money in hawaii but the military is not a major sector in hawaiis economy. hawaiis economy tourism and agreculture. and when it comes to tourism its mostly international visitors. not US mainland visitors. there are alot of US tourists in hawaii, but most of them dont spend that much money. they are not the cash cow in hawaiis tourism.
reading some of your posts, you guys sound really immature. sometimes I wonder if you people joined the military because you couldnt find normal jobs. I mean the military pretty much takes anyone.
another thing you should know is that in hawaii 24% of the people are white vs 9% pacific islanders. the rest being asian. if whites were hated so much there wouldnt be that many of them living here.

Comment by hellopeople — July 26, 2008 @ 5:19 pm

It’s that superior military attitude that makes us hate military people. My mom, who was born and raised in the military family, HATES THE MILITARY HERE. They are the ones in the news all the time murdering and bashing locals. There are more stories about locals being killed by belligerent military men then the other way around. It’s that supremest attitude that makes us dislike it!

Go HOME if you don’t like it. That’s why we don’t like you. You come with a negative attitude, ready to just hate. JUST GO HOME!!!!!

Comment by shana — July 28, 2008 @ 12:18 pm

I must also mention, that’s nothing against all military people I’m not saying they’re all bad and they should all go home. I’m saying, those who complain? You joined the army to do your job, not to be a complaining wuss. Would you like living in Iraq vs. Hawaii?

The point is… there’s so much to be thankful for in the United States alone. The fact that we have the right to mention discontent is a blessing. Grow up in another country that’s oppressed and poverized, and realize that sometimes the past creates racial tension. But it’s people like us, those who use our voices, that can solve the problem. Not by speaking out or creating more hatred, but by forgiveness and trying to see the positives ALONG with the negatives.

Comment by shana — July 28, 2008 @ 12:20 pm

In all honesty….my husband actually has said he looks forward to this deployment….which will take him away from this crack rock of an island. What about the locals who beat up or kill “haoles”? I believe that if the unhappy military people had a choice on whether to stay or go….they would go in a fucking heartbeat!

Comment by areyoukiddingme — July 28, 2008 @ 3:34 pm

Shana, I try to avoid commenting nowadays since I don’t live in Hawaii anymore (and I’m so much calmer and happier for it).

However, during the 3 years I lived there, I don’t recall ever hearing about a military person murdering or beating up locals. It was always the other way around. Please provide links to newspaper articles or other evidence of your accusations.

The military doesn’t have a choice of where we are put. We can’t just “go home”, as you say. If you’re Mom grew up in a military family, she would know all about that.

Very few of us come to Hawaii expecting to hate it. Most think it’s just like the advertisements. It’s only after we arrive that we see just how bad it really is.

Right now I am stationed in Iraq. So, to answer your question: yes, I would rather be here than in Hawaii. Most of the Iraqi people adore us and like what we are doing for them. We are giving them all the trappings of Western society that the Hawaiians resent us for.

Finally, there are many people commenting here (non-locals) who have pointed out the good along with the bad. This blog post was made to point out that Hawaii isn’t what you see in ads. There is a dark underside to Hawaii that very few people see and fewer admit to. The locals may say that we are wrong but there are far too many people on this blog who beg to differ. The first step is to admit there is a problem; the ignorant ones are the ones who are unwilling to admit it.

Comment by crystalattice — July 29, 2008 @ 1:15 am

I have been here for 3 years and just recently had the opportunity to go to Reno to visit family. It was culture shock for me. The people were all so friendly, customer service was great, everyone seemed happy!
Coming back I am starting to realize that people here present as being untight and unhappy. Even the mainlanders have lost their sense of joy.

I unlike some chose to move here thinking I could spend my hard earned retirement in paradise. Wrong! I want to spend my golden years where I can feel safe and somewhat appreciated and respected. It is very difficult for me to see young children look at me with hate. Most every culture teach their children to respect their elders.

What I would love to see though, is Hawaii change. I think the only way to do that is through education in cultural diversity. If the people would only realize what they are missing by not opening their hearts and minds. It needs to start in the schools and most importantly in the homes.

There needs to be sanctions against the hate. I could not stand in my yard on the mainland and yell obsenities. I was in church one evening and had to listen to a local yell “fucking haoles” for an hour. I kept thinking that the police would arrive any minute but they never did. The pastor finally called but they still didnt show up. Couldn’t get away with that on the mainland. They would probably put you in jail and make you go to counseling.

The attitude of many of the locals here is “suck it up” that’s the way it is here. Wrong! I could never get used to being spit at and that’s what it feels like.

Thank you crystalattice for giving me a way to process and vent. I get depressed thinking this is the kind of world we are leaving for our children and grandchildren. Not much of a legacy is it?

Comment by Citizen — July 29, 2008 @ 11:07 am

to hellopeople

you forget that the 24% you speak of is mostly military. and if there stationed here they have to live here.

do you live here?
are you white?

obviously you dont live here whites are hated here. not by everyone, but a big majority.

i came here expecting something very different then what i got.

my friends husband when he first got here was walking on the beach just after the sun went down, locals kicked his ass. They stole his phone and wallet. He had to get his jaw wired. All because he’s military.

Is that fair?

If we could go home we would. Not just my husband and I, but most of his command. But we cant just leave because that would be desserting.

The military isnt a normal job, your absolutley right. Everyone in the military protects your asses. Im very proud of every single person in the military. Its scary, they can be sent overseas to fight in the war. It takes very brave people to do sign up for the military. The military doesnt just take anyone either, you may want to do a little research on that one. They may have 20 years ago but they’ve up’ed there standards alot.

My problem is psychological? Ok. I guess your right, when I get a job over a local because Im better qualified she calls me a mainland haole bitch, when I cant even leave my car locked on my street without someone breaking into it (he was caught he was a local), when Im driving in North Shore and I see 3 people wearing the same shirt and a bumper sticker that say “hate haole”….it doesnt really put you in a good frame of mind so yeah its psychological.

Like I said, I didnt think about being hated because im white when i came here, in fact it didnt even cross my mind. I dont have a bad attitude, on here I might because I can vent, but in the real world when i go out Im polite to every person I meet whether or not they are to me. Thats how I am. I dont hate locals, I dont like how they treat military, especially the white people.

Some people in the military do have a superior military attitude because they’re here protecting locals and locals hate them. Ive never heard of military beating up locals, it may have happened i dont know, its definatley the other way around tho. Locals blantantly talk about hating them and what they would do to them, in public like its something to be proud of.

The military isnt perfect but since they are protecting the civilians on this island you think that they’d get a little respect.

Hawaii is a very beautiful place, the locals make it ugly. If I had a choice to stay or go, you bet Id leave. So would every single military person I know. My husband cant wait to go on a ship, 3 years attached to a ship would be better then 3 months in hawaii

And its cute how you lower yourself to name calling. Very much like an 8 year old. Seriously how old are you, like 15?

If you want to debate with me be mature. calling me butt ugly made me laugh but since you did make some valid points I decided to acknowledge you.

I never said the military supports the economy here at all. I said tourism does. How do you know how much money US tourism brings in? Or international tourism? Are you head of Hawaii’s treasury?

The locals hate the mainland I said lets take all the things the mainland contributes away. American cars, american stores, american military, american products, everything american. What does that leave?
Seriously? Think about it. Im not saying this rock would be a barren wasteland but there would be significantly less here.

Im not trying to get everyone to hate Hawaii, I want people to know its not as great as you see on postcards, If you have had a good experience here, you were definatley only visiting, but Im happy that you didnt have to hear all the nasty things the locals say about mainlanders which is probally why you love hawaii so much.

Comment by Sarah — July 29, 2008 @ 12:47 pm

being mugged is a horrible thing. anyone gets mugged should call the police right away.
I do live in hawaii. I know this is a long thread, but if you read my past posts, I tell you places not to go or live. If you find yourself in one of those places or areas, you might get mugged.

if you live in hawaii by choice or not, you should learn the culture and accept it. the local people in general will distinguish between hawaii and the mainland. but at the same time haoles do that to. I think the best thing to do is stop all this america this and ameica that nonsence. just be genuine be cool hang loose man. dont be walking around with this egocentric attitude about how hawaii is part of america and locals should act a certain way. there are locals that hate haoles, but there are many of us that dont. you make is sound like there is a hate haole campaign here. there is no such thing.
in hawaii, there are lots of punks. young punks middle aged punks and even old punks. stay away from these people. there are lots of violent people here, shit man, stay away from them, dont be stupid.

Comment by hellopeople — July 30, 2008 @ 12:08 am

Boo on you, hellopeople.

Hawaii IS part of America. No one who is chosen to live in Hawaii by the government comes here to disrespect your culture. We come here because we were told to. And while there are plenty of anti-government threads out there, it bears saying that the US Government, much like every government, will not do a single solitary constructive thing to keep its working bodies out of harm, as long as commanders put on captain, and admirals put on more stars, with regular timing. That includes any sort of meaningful prosecution/punishment for assaulting its service members.

And as far as your culture goes, grats and kudos and all the usual accolades that you have one that you are so proud of. But people who come here from the mainland, like it or not, are not going to go out of their way to pay anything more then passing homage to your culture. You are, like it or not, simply another state of the union. People in North Dakota, or Washington, or Florida, do NOT engage in active racism/attacks of people who dont “respect their culture”. Perhaps us rotten haoles have a bit to learn about being arrogant, but so too do you. People who claim the “pure local” status need to earnestly and seriously -get over yourselves-.

As long as your children are dropping 200,00 mcdonalds wrappers on the ground, while walking around totally unsupervised by their parents, no one is going to see your “culture” as anything worth passing notice, let alone the unspecified and arrogant “respect” you demand.

Comment by Anti-Haole — July 31, 2008 @ 3:18 am

Oops. 200,000 is a more accurate, and, you know, real number. sorry for the typo.

Comment by Anti-Haole — July 31, 2008 @ 3:19 am

This blog has made me feel so mcuh better reading it I thought that I was the only one who hated living in Hawaii. There are so many things wrong with this state, the people aren’t the only thing but they are a big part. How dare ya’ll compare the racism here to the south I am from the south 3 hours away from Mexico and I would much rather be surronded by Mexicans, in fact I married one, than by these lazy direspectful people. At least Mexicans are willing to work for their families rather than live on the beach not knowing how they will feed their children dinner or wondering if their children will be good citizens. Mexicans actually try unlike Hawaiians. But enough about the races stuff that really doesn’t matter it mostly just he lact of repect that EVERYBODY has for one another.
Why is this place so full of hate? I have never treated anybody or seen anybody being treated the way people get treated here?
I just wanted to say thank you to cystal for posting this and helping me feel a little more relieved about my feeling of discontent for this place. If my husband ever gets orders here again we will seperate from the military for sure. Why should we go where we are not wanted. Both my husband and I served in the military and I have never experienced this kind of hatered for the military EVER!!

Comment by thewife — July 31, 2008 @ 12:43 pm

let me ask. what area were you in when you felt detested? what area were you in when you witnessed unsupervised children roaming around?
please read my earlier post. I have made a list of areas not to go.
as for myself, I do not hate the military. I also dont hate the US govt. and as I mentioned earlier, I have white buddies. i am local, born and raised in hawaii. but my culture or traditions never conflicted with the culture and traditions of my white buddies. infact, i feel wierd calling them white.
anyways read my earlier post for areas not to go. if you already left the state then disregard. but if not that list is important to you. I mean you wouldnt dream of walking into a black or latino neighborhood and expect those people to get down with your ideals right. infact you probably go into flight or fight mode. so look over my list. it will save yo lots of grief. anyone got questions ill be happy to answer.

Comment by hellopeople — July 31, 2008 @ 8:56 pm

You know what? Hawaii didn’t ruin your experience. You did. It’s not perfect, and every place has it’s asshole, but you’re sorely wrong if you think most people here are racist and mean.
You know what’s true? I am white. Very white. I am also MILITARY. And my MILITARY PARENTS and I absolutely LOVE IT HERE.
You’re right, some people are racist, and you’re one of them. Don’t insult my home with your hate.

Comment by Tori Flick — August 9, 2008 @ 6:11 pm

Hey guys, I googled hawaii sucks and this blog came up

Ive been living on kauai for 6 months (im a white mainlander) and let me tell you everything you guys have said is true. It is the shittiest place of shit ever. God damn. Its like a 3rd world country. I cant wait to leave eather….but it does feel so nice to know that im not alone in this feeling.

It really feels good to see my same exact feelings typed out by so many diffrent people…I cant wait to just leave hawaii and forget I was ever there. It is truly another world…

i hope this blog helps other people 2

Comment by Jordan — August 10, 2008 @ 1:00 am

I totally agree with you. I’ve lived here for over two years and I hate it. Everything you said about Hawaii is true. It’s a horrible place to live and I can’t wait to get back to the mainland and the real world. People are racist and rude here. I seriously hate this island.

Comment by Alycen — August 17, 2008 @ 11:31 pm

I’ve lived here for 4 of the last 8 years, and it gets worse with each passing day. From the neverending construction downtown where I live (they start jackhammering at 8pm for the last YEAR!!1) to the racist locals, I am counting down the days. Local government is like watching high school government, embarrassing. The spirit of aloha is the spirit of hypocrisy, and there are two classes of citizens here: hateful locals and everyone else. Say what you want, white people know they are not wanted here, except if the local businesses can take money off of them. Believe me, I want to leave here worse than you want me to leave. You can have your “paradise”.

Locals where I work have actually told me not to go to certain places, like Waianae, Kahuku, and Waimanalo, because the hatred for whites is so strong there. They were doing me a favor by warning me? Nice place ya got here. My car has been broken into several times (to steal a few CDs), and my house was burglarized as well. Yeah, Hawaii, I got your aloha…swinging.

Comment by Steve — August 19, 2008 @ 9:58 pm

f*kin haoles, go home. go bang your sister or your cousin. You guys jus mad dat you white and dat you get beat up here in hawaii and you get beat up in da mainland. You guys get pounded by locals, den you guys get pounded by da blacks, there is no white power.Jus white inbred queers who like to bang there sis and cousin and mom.
F*kin Haoles, f*k u

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Comment by Kanaka Maoli — August 25, 2008 @ 9:51 am

FYI to everyone. We have another poser troll on this board. Kanaka Maoli’s IP address indicates he is posting from the Polk Army base in Louisiana. Which means he’s either a government employee, contractor, or military member.

Yet another “proud Hawaiian” getting a paycheck from the US federal government. Yes, the white man sure is a bad person, huh? Enjoying all those government benefits? Bet you can’t wait for that federal retirement check.

Comment by crystalattice — August 25, 2008 @ 5:39 pm

@ Kanaka Maoli…

Fool look at your own culture and it’s beliefs about the purest possible bloodline before you say shit like that you uneducated Kanak.

Comment by PB — August 25, 2008 @ 8:33 pm

I completely agree with you on this one and would have to say that the common thread of the problems here in Hawaii is the government. The Democratic Party and the Unions work hand in hand to make sure they benefit well at the expense of everyone else. Everything is geared towards the benefit of the unions or the lazy poor people.

Comment by Todd — August 26, 2008 @ 10:40 am

And in another stunning move of how “on top” of things people in Hawaii are they have successfully caused the Falls of Clyde to deteriorate to such condition that it seems that it will have to be sunk. Just great, talk about preserving your past.

Comment by PB — August 26, 2008 @ 7:21 pm

as much as Id like to help anyone that feels abused physicaly or emotionaly, I now can see that this is a vent forum.
one poster with insulting comments gets a bunch of replys while I am lucky to get one. haha, but still if anyone needs answers, I am happy to help

SHAKA!!!

Comment by sean — August 27, 2008 @ 11:09 pm

i don’t know why i didn’t google “hawaii sucks” sooner. i have been here for 1 year and i feel like i gave it a fair shot- i tried to immerse myself in the “local” culture and honestly i come out feeling more isolated than i did before. i can “look” local because of my asian appearance but once i open my LA mouth it is a whoooole different ball game.
i think the thing i hate most is how people like to talk “through” people rather than use direct communication. often times i am called “white washed” or “townie” because of how i speak my mind. what the hell is that supposed to mean? i feel like people hide more behind the “ethnic” skin appearance but they are no better than the hick Ku Klux Klan of the mainland.
thanks for listening to me vent. it feels great knowing there are people who share similar disgust towards this place. all of my friends (who are from cities on the mainland as well) have cut their contracts short and moved back because of their disgust with the place outside of the marathons, paddling, and outdoor sports- so i’m pretty much stuck here on my own sucking it up until my contract is up as well.

Comment by mimi — September 4, 2008 @ 10:31 am

The only good Hawaiian Island is Ford Island - a long, guarded bridge controls access with the wonderful moat of Pearl Harbor surrounding it. Just outside the gate is the stadium “section 8″ housing area, Halawa Apts, and the bridge that has been under contruction for 5 years - all three are the requisite reminders to me every day of the why behind my need to escape here. If you are Navy with family and under orders to come here - the safest and cleanest place to live is Ford Island.

The best beaches on Oahu belong to the military at Bellows and Hickam. Why? There is no routine access to the local populace and thus no tents, no trash, no burned out cars, and no bum mentality. You can leave your car for hours and come back to it with everything intact.

I don’t know about anyone else, but what is the local fascination with backing into parking spaces instead of pulling in head first?

I don’t understand how a people that portend environmental oneness with nature have a complete disregard for it with the amount of trash everywhere and a “pay as you go” recycling program instead of a mandatory “bin program” that I grew up with in Seattle 25 years ago.

The Super Ferry: finally an option outside of Horizon, Matson, and the airlines was offered in order to transport goods, services, and other items betwixt the islands. This was greeted poorly by huge protests and as of now it only makes runs to Maui. Why? Environmental concerns = the whales. After being at sea for several years now, I have never seen a whale, or pod, change their swimming course towards a loud machinery plant in the water. Call me crazy, but these animals have other things to do like eat and breed than swerve over towards a ferry. They are also more agile in the water and can avoid high speed craft. Oh, there doesn’t seem to be a problem with fish charters, whale watchers, and Matson/Horizon barge traffic - just the Super Ferry.

The “Aloha Spirit” is a joke. It resides at the Cultural Center, Paradise Cove and the airport lei stands. Outside of there, the best welcome and help you’ll receive is at the military MWR office.

I don’t understand the nationhood gambit going on around here with “kau inoa” – place your name. Wasn’t it the citizenry that voted for statehood just like the residents in Guam and Puerto Rico have voted against it? Bit late, and I’m afraid the secessionist route won’t happen either; a bunch of states tried that in the 1860s and it didn’t work out too good. If they want out of the Union then Crystal has it right… give back all that the “invasion” has given to include the written language that was developed.

Locals: I’ve been lost and asked for directions in SE DC, Youngstown, OH, Baltimore, Long Beach, bad places in LA, South Tucson, and many places overseas; I’ve been better received as a white dude in all of those places plus Bahrain and UAE than here. I was diving over off Waianae last week and one would have thought I was driving a jeep that was on fire the amount of stares I received while driving and filling up the tank. Ya see… Waianae is for locals not for a white guy like me.

Do I hate this place? Overall: yes. It’s just one in a list of places that I’ve got zero interest in returning to (Malaysia, Guam, Indonesia, anywhere in the Persian Gulf, Russia, and Mexico are on the list). For someone who’s never been here, it is a semi-english speaking Mexico surrounded by water. The only thing I’ll miss is driving with the top of the jeep, and wearing shorts and flip flops (slippers) year ’round. That’s it. The reef diving I can do and fly to anywhere.

My 2 cents…

Comment by Chengus Khan — September 6, 2008 @ 1:13 pm

Wow, interesting article, where do you find the time to write all this? I do feels there are many Haoles are not happy with Hawaiians. The culture may not blend in with the Mainland. And Yes we do have Termites and Cock roaches that are living here for free. In fact Haoles will make up the majority ethnicity in Hawaii in the next few years. Personally I like Haole girls, they are beautiful women, and I find Haoles warm, kind and good natured. Now in order to have Haole girls you need Haole boys to make Haole children. And that they will be making more children than everbody else makes me happy. I get along with Haole people, they want to learn about my culture, and speak pidgin, date our women, go to school here, I enjoy Haole children, they are so cute and innocent. Instead of having a Kill Haole day which is the last day in public school, we should have something else. If you don’t like Hawaii and the way thing run here it’s understandable, Local people struggle with living in the mainland. Because Hawaii is so different from the mainland I don’t blame you from Hating Hawaii, there is a lot to hate about Hawaii. You are probably right about all the things you hate about us locals, and probably right to feel that way. I was wondering if the military would be able to accomadate your wishes? If you get here and don’t like the people would you be able to transfer out from Hawaii? It is probably keeping you here as a prisoner, you should be able to leave without consequences. I feel you are accurate about the negative aspects about Hawaii. I understand why you hate me for calling you Haole.

Comment by Okinawan/Jewish/Hawaiian — September 7, 2008 @ 7:46 am

I know it sucks to be alone and not have enough of your kind around you, I’ve traveled around the US and have felt the same way myself, If it wasn’t for my redneck buddy I think I would be writing about several places on the mainland that suck and are unsafe for non white or black people! Please feel this way and let your friends know to! Don’t come back don’t even sneak back!

PS… at least I don’t have a Black and White Mentality.

Comment by 50% HAWAIIAN — September 8, 2008 @ 10:21 am

I cant understand if this is troll bait or not? o_O

Comment by Anti-Haole — September 8, 2008 @ 10:27 am

HAWAIIAN…

No one should be wandering around wanting “their” kind of people around them. I know I dont. I want people who are not pointedly rude, who dont go out of their way to tell me in anyway they can, how they dont like me, without even knowing me.

Comment by Anti-Haole — September 10, 2008 @ 9:10 am

there are rude people everywhere i go. what i hate are those white old ladies that just cut you off when im walking through a mall or at a supermarket. they dont even acknoledge you they just cut you off like it was nothing. or they sometimes walk towards you and expect you to step to the side like youre suppose to get out of there way. also, these old white ladies are always on your neighborhood boards trying to implement all these nit pickly rules that irritate everyone. when you talk about rudeness i always think about these nasty old white ladies. if its not these old white haoles, these its these crybaby white people from the military. they whine about all sorts of things. they even whine about issues that have nothing to do with them. they just like to whine and bitch about everyting. im sorry that Hawaii is not the bible belt where you are from where being white makes you fell superior. we are not trying to be rude to anyone. sometimes i think that it might be you that are just dumb ass haoles.

Comment by hellopeople — September 12, 2008 @ 12:53 pm

hellopeople-

There are just as many wiry old loacls (and most especially their children) who will blondly walk -right- into you in the mall, because acknowledging that youre there would violate the “hate whie people” directive instilled in them.

Comment by Anti_Haole — September 13, 2008 @ 9:41 am

Look, I’m from the buckle of the bible belt and I have to interject here and say it’s not like that at all there. I’m from Nashville and we have more cultural diversity there than there is here. I must also say that we have more tolerance for diversity than there is here. Where’s your middle-eastern district? Laotian district? Black? Hispanic? African? European? What I’m getting at is there really isn’t much diversity here besides the major Asian and Pacific Islander influences. I mean, Taco Bell is as authentic as Mexican food gets here. (Good Thai and Japanese, though!) I’ve been here almost 3 years now and I can’t say that I know of any Ethiopian, German, French, or Russian restaurants (to name just a very few) here. What I’m getting at is no wonder there is so much hatred for white people here, there really isn’t that much culture here besides the Asian and Pacific Islander. So naturally, we’re the ones to get the bad wrap. Look, I have more tolerance than most people, hell, I’ve lived in Asia for years. I’ve also been to the REAL Japan. I get more looks here being white than I did in Korea when I would be the only non-Korean person I’d see the entire day. Don’t get me wrong here, I don’t harbor any ill feelings to Hawaii (now) but don’t speak of things that you know nothing about. It’s not a superiority issue either; I’m used to being the minority, but I’m not used to the arrogance and the hate. I’ve just never seen a place with so much hate. That’s why most of us haoles are up in arms. It’s because this place is so backwards in regard to hate. Hawaii needs to catch up to the 21st Century, that’s all.

Comment by sojourner — September 13, 2008 @ 10:56 pm

You are right on some things, hello-, there ARE rude people everywhere. All I ask is that you don’t teach your children the hate that you spew on here sometimes. It’s unfortunate that you make some really great points sometimes, but they’re overshadowed by your other ignorant comments. Remember, the majority of us are leaving so it’s up to you and your children to make this place the paradise it could be. Change starts with you, not us.

Comment by sojourner — September 13, 2008 @ 11:02 pm

Interesting exchange. As retired travelers from the Boston area, we had a delightful monthlong visit to Kauai in March 2008. The weather was fantastic and we went to the beach nearly every day. As EPAs (Exceptionaly pale Americans) the native Hawaiian lifeguards could see that we were not accustomed to strong surf, and were always friendly, polite and helpful and directed us to the spots where we would be least likely to drown. We stayed in a working class residential neighborhood near Kapaa, and the most aggravation that we had was the constant crowing of the wild rooster population. The neighborhoods were the same as everywhere else, reflecting the relative wealth of the occupants.
I noticed that some of the native population (at least those whom I assumed were natives) were indifferent to us as we shared the beaches or stood in lines at the market, others were welcoming and friendly. No one was hostile. This was a better reception than we would get as tourists in downtown Boston.
I should mention that we always try to keep in mind that we are the visitors, and anywhere you go, the locals always have a love/hate relationship with tourists. We are truly interested in the culture (history, food, music) and people who live in the places we are visiting. I think a lot of visitor may not appreciate the laid back attitude of the residence and take their unhurried approach to service as an insult.
We found Kauai to be the most beautiful spot we have ever been. From what others have written, it sounds like 4 weeks is just right. We never got bored. We got so relaxed that we never bothered to see the other Islands - which was our original plan.
As for the military captives, I understand how it is, I was in the service years ago and we always thought the base we were on was the worst place in the world, until we got to the next one.
Paradise is in the mind of the beholder.

Comment by Whitey — September 14, 2008 @ 7:07 am

Hawaii has alot of degenerates. so you want to be especialy careful in certain ares or certain public schools.

when you talk about diversity in hawaii, its not so much the segregated cheeker board of various racial or even economic communities. the whole state is blended where ever you go and we have one local culture. but just because you are new to hawaii does not mean that you cant be accepted.

what i asume is that many military folks live around the wahiawa area which is full of drug addicts, then venture into places like the waianae, makaha, north shore area which is dominated by polynesian degerates. its no wonder you have this awful view of hawaii.

there are different types of people in hawaii. so you got to learn about this just like anywhere else.

Comment by hellopeople — September 14, 2008 @ 11:56 am

I’ll give you that.

Comment by sojourner — September 14, 2008 @ 8:12 pm

Actually, in response to your one comment Sojourner, “hellopeople” has been one of the sole calm headed and unopinionated posters on this thread, that speak FOR hawaii. Ive found hellopeoples posts to be mostly agreeable, and a good reminder that there is more to the world then venting. There is less vitrole in this thread then there used to be, which is a good thing.

Comment by Anti-Haole — September 15, 2008 @ 11:23 am

maybe I was getting the tone wrong, unfortunately there is no tone of voice in text. Perhaps some comments I was taking as sarcastic.

Comment by sojourner — September 16, 2008 @ 2:50 pm

Wait a second.. has civility returned to this post?!?

Comment by sojourner — September 16, 2008 @ 2:52 pm

… maaaybe :)

Comment by Anti-Haole — September 19, 2008 @ 9:44 am

Having been born and raise in Hawaii I’m pretty suprised that so many people hate Hawaii. One of the main reasons why my family choose Hawaii was the low-rate of violent crime and a “vacation lifestyle”. It may not be paradise but I really enjoyed growing up here.

However, I do think that some individuals from Hawaii are sheltered from the world and become close minded. The islands are already fairly crowded and with less cultures moving in, its easy for the local population to stick among themselves. I agree with sojouner that a city like Nashville where I’m attending college :), has more diversity than Hawaii - in terms of different nationalities and cultures. Although I think its due to the cities growth and infrastructure which makes it appealing for all types of families to settle. Where as the families or individuals moving to Hawaii are typically military or wealthy individuals, due to the high cost of living and low pay on the Islands.

We also have to remember that Hawaii is the newest US state and the most secluded. So, theres a lot of room for growth. I suspect as globalization speeds up we will see more of Hawaii’s population being connected to mainstream US culture and receptive to mainlanders. There is also a trend of more kids from Hawaii attending college or living on the US and as many of them return home we may see attitudes start to change. I personally think much of this has already occured in many areas on Oahu.

Comment by hdb — September 29, 2008 @ 1:46 am

I have been reading the comments on this site for a long time and finally decided to post. We have lived on oahu for approx. 1 year, currently living in Aiea. My wife is from here and I am caucasian. We both work in the private sector (non- military). We have visited Hawaii in excess of 2 dozen times, mostly Maui and Big Island, before moving here. We are currently in the process of moving back to the mainland(Seattle). I used to like Hawaii, I hope I never return, here are some of my reasons.
1) Crime - I have lived and traveled around the world, and have never had my house broken into. Shortly after moving here our house was broken into.
2) Police - They do take a long time to respond and in my opinion do little to prevent crime, when are house was broken into, the police did not even take a report.
3) Racism - I do experience racism, however, I do not feel everyone in Hawaii is racist, we have many friends from different cultures and we have had this conversation amoung us and the general consensus is if you are white you probably experience some racism in Hawaii. Some of the “Racism” could also come from cultural differences and be confused as racism.
4) Business - VERY DIFFICULT to do here if you are not from here. Even if it will benefit the local population in regards to future job creation, it is still seen as you are trying to steal jobs from the “locals”.

These are just some of the reasons why we are leaving, I often say Hawaii is “America for beginners”, meaning there are many first generation and non-americans here and it certainly affects living here. I have some good days here, but mostly bad and cannot wait to leave, like so many have said before me, initially it’s very nice but quickly looses it luster. I will say Hawaii does have some VERY good food, but I tend to grow tired of the limited menu, mostly asian. It would be nice if it were more diverse.
One last note, I must give credit to crystalattice, this is a great post! It helped realize that many people feel as I do and I would like to thank him for that - Great Job!

Comment by no-worries — September 29, 2008 @ 12:50 pm

I am so extemely disgusted to read these comments toward Hawaii. If you are not from Hawaii, I advise you to get the hell off of our islands! Yes! Ha’ole means souless one, so take your souless ass off of our islands!

Nui Na Kolea ma keia aina nei, tsa!!!!

Comment by DISGUSTED BY YOUR RUDE COMMENTS — October 1, 2008 @ 11:32 pm

DISGUSTED BY YOUR RUDE COMMENTS…

We fellow citizens of the USA are pretty disgusted by rudeness ourselves.

I walked to the park outside my apt today and saw no less then 10 bottle of “popskull” liqueor in the otherwise beautiful park. The bottles were accompanied by about 10 lbs of trash all over the place.

Those of us who live here know its from the late night trappings of a teenage gang who think themselves the shit.

Its a shame that this sort of thing is tolerated by the locals, especially considering that the gang in question is comprised completely of local children.

I guess it isnt littering if its the non-haole kids, eh?

Comment by Anti-Haole — October 3, 2008 @ 11:44 am

I’m really sorry you’re a hater. It’s sad to think that you’re taking up the limited space some other person could really appreciate. If you can’t appreciate the beauty of the islands and the unique spirit of life here, just leave. I’m definitely not asking you to stay here.

Comment by callay — October 4, 2008 @ 11:14 pm

hello readers
anti haole, thanks for your support, I do try to be informative although, sometimes I tend to tipy toe over the line. but my purpose really is to help.

I just got back from las vegas. it was fun but I did have one incident where 4 or 5 black dudes approached me and said ” yo chico, you wanna halla at yo boy” I was like WTF, first Im japanese, second, Im not trying anything except smoke my cigarette outside the casino because smoking is not allowed around the poker area at Binions. I was a bit spooked. anyways readers, fuck these degenerates. you see em, avoid em. I dont care where you are, Hawaii, Vegas, or where ever.

Comment by hellopeople — October 5, 2008 @ 1:51 am

You whiney little f*ck.
I used to live in Honolulu, and now I live in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. How’s that for a change?? Boy, life is so tuff on Oahu worrying about go! airlines and homeless people. Man,… grow up, your not mad at Hawaii there’s something in your brain making you hate the place because you have something unfinished in your past.

Try living in Milwaukee, where the temperature fluxuates over 100 degrees in the year. -40 in winter and 110 in the summer. And summer, only three months, which still isn’t guarenteed to be “summer” weather.

Blah blah, whine about government treament of the enviroment…. Milwaukee dumped 1.6 BILLION gallons of sewage into lake michigan. Compared to hear, Hawaii is untouchable.

Honolulu is like any other big city I’ve seen, it has it’s nice parts and it’s rough parts. I would say though that most of the city is fairly nice. I think Milwaukee has about a square mile where you MIGHT not get shot in, or your car stolen from you.
This city/state/people here, are out of there f*cking minds to live this way. Surviving off of beer, brats, and extremist conservativism. We are so f*cking stuck in the past, nobody cares to open there mind even if they’re proven wrong. And Milwaukee, this city is a living crisis. Everybody hates everybody here and racial divisions are strong. The schools are f*cked, police corrupted, nobody gives a f*ck. When its summer time and you have your windows open at night all you hear are gunshots and harley’s ripping around. A bunch of f*cking rednecks…

So shut the f*ck up and deal with life you f*cking prissy bitch. Compared to most places, you really are living better. Deal with it.

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Comment by Reality — October 6, 2008 @ 8:30 pm

Ok.. First, I want to say that I have been reading the comments for a while and have seen some interesting things being said. Secondly, I don’t like that fact that “white boys” are using the term of ‘nigger” as a means for people to sympathize when locals call them haoles. The comparison is not the same, and I do not feel sympathetic to you. If you don’t like here “leave”. If you don’t know, I’m black and have never had a racial experience in Hawaii, unlike that of the mainland.

The problem is that white folks think that everyone has to be nice to them, and cater to them, but its not happening. I treat everyone with respect. I don’t try to be local or mainlander; I’m just me, everyone is just a person to me, regardless of where they come from. Its all about respect, you respect me, I respect you, and if you don’t respect me I will try to work on you respecting me to a certain point (lolol). Howvever, I have found whites to be very rude and inconsiderate for the most part compared to that of people raised in the islands. So the people on here who cant stand Hawaii “leave” and stop trying to gain a consensus from other groups to validate your “whining” about whether to leave or stay here.

Comment by blkinhawaii — October 13, 2008 @ 6:35 pm

I am surprised at the level of anger being expressed here. I suspect some people have a couple of pops (or tokes) and then get on the forums to vent.

Conclusion: I had a great experience as a tourist on Kauai earlier this year. But, I guess the only thing for a non-native visitor to do is to stay with the other tourists at resort hotels and stay out of the residential/commercial areas, where many of the locals seem to resent the very people whose dollars might grease the local economy.

Too bad. The reality that the angry ones seem to miss is that 20% of all races are rude and inconsiderate and 80% of all races are friendly, good and kind. Thats a 4 in 5 chance of meeting one of the good ones if you give them a chance.

Are there any non-natives who like living there?

Comment by Whitey — October 14, 2008 @ 3:30 pm

You can always do what I do for satisfaction. I Google Hawaii and then, on the first url result, there is a place to order a free Hawaii Tourism magazine. It takes them about $1.25 to mail it. I order one every week. I figure every dollar spent mailing me a tourism magazine is one less going to the locals. In case you’re wondering, I will NEVER visit Hawaii!

Comment by Rob — October 17, 2008 @ 9:43 am

Rob,
Get some professional help. You might get more satisfaction ordering a girlie mag and well, you know….

Hawaii will do very nicely without one more moron on the beach.

Comment by Whitey — October 21, 2008 @ 8:25 am

Hmm… I see what you did there.

Comment by Anti-Haole — October 22, 2008 @ 9:30 am

I’ve lived there for 13 years. I was half Japanese half European (giving me very white qualities) and I still got a lot of shit for being white. Not so much the locals though I suppose, because I had a lot of local friends. Take a person who has lived there for an extensive time period in his life - unless you’re into listening reggae music, you will be discriminated and prejudiced based on what your individual outlets are. Hawaii’s a society based on conformity, similar to most East-Asian countries. If you’re not within the crowd of “mokes”, then you won’t be treated well. Yeah, Waikiki’s a nice place, but mokes and drug dealers frequent there too. They usually beat up tourists for no reason, or because they know tourists have money to spend. It’s not common to hear about hate crimes in Hawaii.

Comment by Brutal — October 24, 2008 @ 2:42 pm

I hate the place. That’s all I want to say. I’m never stepping on that island.

Comment by MikeC — October 24, 2008 @ 3:16 pm

for all you saying that if you don’t like it leave, i wish i could.
see, i am one of the ones imported from the mainland to (dirty word here)WORK because the locals are too stupid and lazy to go to school or climb out from their tarps and go to WORK. believe me, i would be on a frigate out of here tonight if i could…………….

Comment by KLS — October 29, 2008 @ 10:21 am

All I can say if F Hawai““““““i. White people get so much shit from the “locals” but the Japanese are the biggest benefactors of Hawaii statehood. If you look at the payroll of the local and state goverment, you’ll see that the majority of the workers are local japanese.

Hawaii is a f’d up place that is extremely racist, provencial and dirty. To locals in Hawaii, the world consists of the Hawaiian Islands and Las Vegas. Nothing else exists. Stupid ignorant mokes.

Comment by Juan Binadu — October 29, 2008 @ 5:44 pm

So all of you that think Hawaii is jacked up and racist you need to go back home and look at where you grew up! I for one have been to many different places in the states and have found lots of racism coming from the people up their as well. Where ever you go you are going to find racism so GET OVER IT… and secondly, the reason why the Hawaiian island has crap all over it and is because people keep bringing it here. Do you realize that outside of the tons of lazy people that live here there are still tons and tons of other people that do work and buss our asses day in and day out to survive. We work, take care of our families, and attend school all in one day. You might see only the shetty parts of our island but yet if you grew up here like any other place you would see the beauty and sacrifice that people make every day. Prices in Hawaii is so expensive that some parents have to work 2 maybe even 3 jobs to support their families. They need sitters right. Can’t afford to pay for one so you ask a family member if they can do it and instead of paying them they do it for LOVE. So that could be one reason to why so many people don’t work here. Because working down here for minimum wage is crap. All it does is pay your gas and that’s it… Can they just move to the states sure! But we are all about FAMILY. Family down here is our LIFE! Without our families we’d probably be lost. Most of you from the States could give a rats ass about your families. You all are stuck up and think that your better then everyone else. GUESS WHAT…. YOUR NOT!!! If your not making 6 digits a year your nothing. Just another regular person like the people in Hawaii. You have daily struggles whether it be with your finances, your kids, your spouses, friends, or family members. You are no different so really have no right to judge the poeple that live in the islands. I’M GLAD I GREW UP HERE. MY ATTITUDE TOWARDS LIFE AND PEOPLE HAS MADE ME BECOME THE PERSON I AM TODAY. I AM NOT RACIST. I WORK HARD FOR WHAT I HAVE. SUPPORT MY FAMILY AND HAVE LIVED ON MY OWN SINCE I WAS 18. I RESPECT MY ELDERS EVEN THO THEY DON’T RESPECT ME AND SAY HI TO STRANGERS. I DON’T LOOK AT THEM AND SAY WHAT THE F”"” ARE YOU LOOKING AT… So to all of you that have seen the crappy side of Hawaii. You just met the wrong people… Not everyone here are assholes and not everyone here is careless. So next time all of you decide to blog about an area you have visiter maybe you should blog about all the bad shit in your area first…………..

Comment by NoeC — October 29, 2008 @ 9:31 pm

1. The term “Haole” is not used offensively in most cases. It’s simply a local synonym for “white.”

2. Hawaii is definitely not ghetto; many of the homeless people are not even FROM HAWAII. It’s disgusting.

3. The Ala Wai spill occurred in order to divert the sewage from getting pumped into the HOTEL TOILETS. It was a problem not addressed by former administrative systems– not the fault of the present government.

Your comments are uninformed, ignorant, and ridiculous.

Comment by disgusted — October 30, 2008 @ 8:41 pm

Hi…
I am 19 years old. I am a local boy born and raised here in the “state” of Hawaii and i HATE it here!!! Unfortunately, i am of Hawaiian decent. 25% to be exact! I am also 50% Puerto Rican, French Italian, American Indian and Filipino. Oh and yes, i consider myself an American being that the United States is my Nationality! I HATE everything about the hawaiian people, preferably the “locals” in general! Yes, i am a local but i am the local that grew up AMERICAN in this piece of crap state! And boy let me tell you, i am PROUD to have grown up American!!!! I am fortunate to have an American family who speaks “proper english” and not that pidgen degrading shit! Military and foreigners alike are 100% right when they say hawaii is crap and so are the people! If it weren’t for the military, Hawaii would be nothing! So wise up you locals! You guys are an embarrasement!!! You make me sick!!! Your attitude on life sucks!!! Your racism slurs sucks!!! Keep up all the bullshit about how you hate the “haole” and you will see, one day the military will leave this state, and you will beg for them to return!!!! By then, i will join my Nation, The United States of America and leave this state aswell! I pity you ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you to whomever wrote this blog! You are on the ball about everything you say! The local government and the local people have a lot of work to do to really make this place a beautiful place before they can call it paradise! But i honestly doubt that will ever happen! I mean take a look, Hawaii really isn’t paradise! I’m sure many of us will agree! It is very boring here! There is nothing to do! The road system makes no sence whatsoever! You want to know what i really think about this isolated land, it should be hit by a tsunami and wipe out everything so the “haole” can rebuild, start off new without the local, pidgen talking, uneducated hawaiians!

What i have mentioned may not fly with all locals. Im sure there are many locals who take my side on this! I wash my hands clean with this horrible state!

Comment by XavierN — November 2, 2008 @ 4:32 pm

I moved to Kailua-Kona, on the Big Island, on Aug. 12… almost 3 months. The plan was to use this as a stepping stone for traveling.

I am middle-aged, no kids, and a friend has set me up with a nice house…. She is filipino, and so she gets along fine; but she has to do all of my local business for me, because I cannot get shit done.

I bought a scooter/moped (piece of crap), and twice, young “locals” have tried to kill me with their fancy big trucks… and I mean ON PURPOSE, with no ambiguity to the attempt….

In order to get my safety inspection and so forth, I had to be turned down by some corrupt local businesses, that do the EASY inspection (2 minute job), before I could find some (not so eager) white guy… and my friend/roomy had to take care of it for me.

The local white guys, that I do meet, are blue collar types that pretend to talk in that pigeon local crap. Most other white people are older retired types that stay at home and can afford to have people do their yardwork and stuff….

I am just going to say that this place does suck. The locals dump trash in the beautiful nature areas, and build bonfires on matresses and couches, they leave burned up cars on the side of the road in State and National Parks….

Then they have the gaul to treat me like I am the bad one. (Oh, and don’t give me that “racism on the mainland” crap. I, and ALL of the white people I grew up with, NEVER even thought about someone being different because they were black, hispanic, or whatever.)

At anyrate, the locals are getting their wish. I made a HUGE mistake moving here. But it is going to be a year or two before I can manage the move.

Maybe the “Aloha” State will change my mind in that time.

Comment by Wes — November 2, 2008 @ 11:42 pm

I hate hawaii too. I’ve also been here for 2 and a half years and I have two more to go until we can leave (my husband is in the Army doing his residency at Tripler). I can’t wait to leave. I am so sick of it here. I am so sick of the weather - I want season. I miss fall leaves, the first snow, skiing … I also miss my family at home. Being married to a doctor sounds so nice - but actually it is REALLY lonely. And, we have a one and a half year old, so much of the time I feel like a single parent without my family near to help. And it isn’t like they are near by either! We are so isolated out on this island in the middle of the ocean and it feels like we have no way out. What’s more, we purchased a house we can barely afford (a town house -the price of real estate here is unreal), and now with the economy etc - we can’t sell it. It’s been on the market, but no buyers…. so, on top of my husband working around the clock, I am working and my daughter spends her life at day care. I HATE THIS. I just want to move out of here. I am seriously considering a long distance marriage.

Comment by katie — November 3, 2008 @ 12:08 pm

Hey…ur on O’ahu…..tha most paved island out of all 8 of them….Maui is the number 1 island for 14 years straight…try going there….but hurry…we’re starting to become another O’ahu…don’t say u hate hawaii or our people just because one island didn’t please you…. eat tha whole candy bar before deciding its not good… lol well i just had to get it out

Comment by ku'uhokuokalani — November 3, 2008 @ 8:26 pm

hi katie
I just read your post like how I read others just because I follow this thread like a soap opera, and I feel that you are truly and sincerely unhappy. I know raising a child is tough, but at the same time, having your child spend so much time at a day care is tough to. sometimes it might feel like your child is growing up without you.

In no means do I try to be some condescending ass, but I think instead of a long distance marriage, you could try a long vacation back home. like two or three months. it might help you relieve the stress and recover from the burn out you are feeling. you go now, you might make it in time for the first snow.

Comment by hellopeople — November 3, 2008 @ 9:52 pm

If you dont like it here leave, just leave. A lot of your hate is generated from the fear that you have from being a minority here. Many believe this is a racist state, sure it is, and so are the other 49 states. You felt comfort in being the “majority”, you felt priviledged, and you felt anonymous. Coming here, you became identified, you felt slighted, you stuck out AND that is what being a minority. Look in the mirror before you are quick to judge.

Comment by Mr. Sam — November 7, 2008 @ 12:00 pm

whites being offended? welcome to the world of amingy minority

Comment by mingy — November 7, 2008 @ 6:16 pm

i love hawaii, my husband is from here. if you dont like it, then dont go, what do expect on an island that is all minority. not only will you find islanders hating white people, you will find that in a lot of countries where whites arent the majority. Whites are the ‘minority’ in Hawaii. they usually dont hate first, unless they are provoked. their wages are pretty low, a lot have to work double jobs just to make ends meet, and sometimes that still isnt enough. but they still have their pride. no matter what. So stop complaining and get off the islands, we dont need you

Comment by mingy — November 7, 2008 @ 6:26 pm

I don’t post comments here very often, simply because I don’t live there anymore and don’t care about Hawaii in the least. However, I do want to say this:

Don’t you “Hawaii lovers” realize that every time you say, “Just move”, “Don’t come here”, “Get the fuck off our islands”, etc., your just showing the exact BS that people are talking about? Are you really that clueless, that you don’t realize this is exactly why people are bad-mouthing Hawaii?

Comment by crystalattice — November 7, 2008 @ 6:48 pm

I happened upon this site while impatiently waiting for police to arrive at my house. There was a shooting in my driveway three hours ago. I’m still waiting…
I was just trying to pass the time, but I’ve reached the bottom of the page, and I have a few thoughts to share.
ABOUT ME: By blood, I am nearly half Hawaiian and half Everything-Else (mostly European,some Asian). I look white-hispanic and fall on the light end of the skin-color spectrum here.
I’ve lived here my whole life and am a product of both public and private schools.
RACISM:
I am judged by my skin color(light), language(not pidgin), size (slender), neighborhood (actually not that great-see above), job, my parents income? (moderate), and most notably my level of intelligence.
Most people (local and non-local)respect and are impressed by my manners, happy disposition, and reasonably good knowledge regarding a variety of topics, including things Hawaiiana (I speak the language and know the history better than most). Surprisingly this is also my downfall. The very qualities that would make one admirable (from my perspective) are despised, especially by my OWN family. NO one speaks of it, it’s just a lingering resentment just beneath the surface.The divide runs back three generations in my family, and longer in others.
Why? I am privileged, and they are not(Don’t be mislead, by privileged I mean that my family has rented our entire lives, we shop at savers for our clothes and costco for our food.). It isn’t their fault, but it’s the way the cookie crumbles.
“CULTURE”: Like many families in Hawaii, including mine, domestic violence is culturally accepted or overlooked, caring for children and elders (even though you’re a child) is expected, and poverty is the norm (I am wealthy to most). While the first two may have connections to Hawaii’s cultural past, the last is probably the effect of rapid Westernization that the peole could not adapt to. Other concerns are poor health (most often credited to Western contact), drugs (illicit and prescribed) and my most passionate-INADEQUATE EDUCATION!
I have thoughts on all of these-too many to post right now.
CRIME: I feel more secure to walk down the streets of Honolulu than any other big city. That is probably because I live here, understand where I shouldn’t be, and am very aware when things around me start to go wrong. However, I think most of this sense of security stems from a genuine feeling of ‘family’ that pervades the culture.(That may sound Lilo and Stitch but it’s true) Living and growing older on an island, the number of people you don’t know generally decreases. I remember some blurp somewhere about everyone in the world being linked by a chain of six or nine people-whatever it was. Here, it’s more like two. So everyone is ‘nearly’ family so everyone is under the false impression that it’s safe. Most crime here happens within the family, behind closed doors, we don’t have high crime rates because no one finds out about them. The dangers are greater within the home than without. It’s a rampant vicious cycle that has survived generations. I’m lucky to be on the lighter end of this spectrum as well.
DRUGS: They are everywhere. I am hard-pressed to think of anyone who doesn’t use illicit drugs on a regular basis. It makes me sad.
MY FEELINGS: Well, this is where I’m from, it’s what I know best, and I hope to use my experience and the responsibility of a privileged education to affect the change that is needed here. When I see “locals” I see individuals of heart beneath a THICK and HARD layer of physical and psychological abuse coupled with harsh economic situations in a land where their ancestors thrived. Change doesn’t come easy, but every single person has the ability to affect it.
I’ve tried to remain as objective as possible in my thoughts. I hope this helps others understand. Name calling and emotional arguments never got anything noteworthy accomplished. By mutual respect, perhaps we’ll achieve understanding. By understanding the issues, perhaps we can establish effective solutions. And by reducing problems, perhaps we can all be a little happier, healthier, friendly to people and the environment, and live in unprecedented peace. just maybe…

I hope your next visit here is better, I’ll try to make it that for you. When I travel elsewhere, I meet many people. Some are nice and some aren’t. I will meet at least a few wonderful individuals that have a lasting impression upon my life. I don’t remember the unpleasant people, they’re a dime-a-dozen, and I am sure you forget them as well.

GENERAL TRAVEL TIPS: Get educated about your destination, be culturally-sensitive, learn the language (it’s much more rewarding and helps with the culture part), and BE CAREFUL! It’s a wild world out there, especially outside my window!

By the way, I’m still waiting for the cops. it’s been 3 hours 51 minutes…

Comment by contradiction — November 9, 2008 @ 5:59 am

Don’t you “Hawaii lovers” realize that every time you say, “Just move”, “Don’t come here”, “Get the fuck off our islands”, etc., your just showing the exact BS that people are talking about? Are you really that clueless, that you don’t realize this is exactly why people are bad-mouthing Hawaii?

Comment by crystalattice — November 7, 2008 @ 6:48 pm

People from Hawaii are not that clueless, WE JUST DONT COMPLAIN, PISS, SHIT, GRUMBLE, MOAN ABOUT A PROBLEM. WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! Unlike the other 49 other states, you are accountable for everything you say, do, and harm. Being on a rock like Hawaii, you cannot hide from what you do. You cannot pack up, go, and runaway from it all.

From your complaints about Hawaii, you should have addressed here, in person! Rather than hide behind a CPU where YOU remain anonymous. Why did you wait till you left? Because, instead of here you chose to be there, so you will be safe, secure, and to complain more WITHOUT any accountablity.

Really chickenshit, and you wonder why we, retaliate so harshly while you are so far away.

Comment by Mr. Sam — November 10, 2008 @ 6:31 pm

Okay, Mr. Sam. I’ll take your troll-bait and play your game.

I started this blog while I still lived in Hawaii, not after I left, so I didn’t wait to be “safely away” before I started complaining. Additionally, if you look around this site you’ll realize that I’m not trying very hard to remain anonymous. You could find out who I am if you really wanted to.

If you look at the news stories on www.zeroshibai.com, you’ll realize that people from Hawaii very rarely “do something about it”. Simply from reading newspaper articles and watching the news, you people are quite content to maintain the status quo. And even if someone does try to do something, the inertia of the local government makes it nearly impossible to accomplish anything. Unless of course it is something that OHA wants.

Additionally, who would you suggest I address my complaints to? The cops who would rather persuade people from formally filing charges because they don’t want to do the paperwork (something I’ve seen first-hand)? Or the cops who blatantly violate the traffic laws? How about the various lawmakers who get busted for DUI and get a slap on the wrist? Or the corrupt ones? Exactly who are we supposed to talk to? How do we make a difference?

If you’ve read the comments here, you’ll note that more than 80% of the responses are negative about Hawaii. Even some of the locals have bad things to say. So please, provide some evidence of how things get done there, especially for non-locals.

Comment by crystalattice — November 10, 2008 @ 8:03 pm

So you’re telling me that where you are now, or where you came from it is the “perfect place”. There’s people wating for your beck and call if you want things done. They gladly nod their head and listen to your every concern. Please tell me where this place is, so I can compare and contrast between these 2 locations.

Really, it must be Eden that you are referring to. NO corruption, NO lazy police enforcement, NO negative politics, NO outdated infrastucture. Really, tell me where this place so WE, can come to this place and be educated. Identify this place, for us.

You want things to get done, you want evidence? Look in the mirror, thats where it starts. Ive travelled, lived, experienced 12 states. From the West, to East Coast, been there, done that. Ive been treated good, Ive been treated like crap and also been treated like family. Ive been robbed, ran through red tape for housing, etc. I had to wait, and wait and wait to get things done in ALL 12 states. Because Im Asian, majority of those treated me like Im Mexican.

Because I was born and raised in Hawaii, my local culture taught me this, rely on yourself, because others will rely on you for help. Where Ive been, I didnt complain, grumble, etc. Things got done because, I did it myself. When I needed help, Id ask. They looked down on me because I looked Mexican, fuck em Id move on. Believe it or not, there are real dickheads out there, I mean really personality types. I dont blame the state like “Fuck Alabama” and so on, or Alabama Sucks. NOOO, I make personal, I dont think a worm spoils the entire barrell. Thats a “Cop Out”.

Understand? Get things done by doing it yourself.

And you know what? You’re still hiding behind a CPU, and I cant wait when you reveal the “Idyllic Place” that you compare and contrast Hawaii to.

Keep your identity anonymous, it doesnt matter, your opinion of Hawaii does.

Comment by Mr. Sam — November 11, 2008 @ 1:41 am

Mr. Sam, are you sure you were mistreated because of your race and not because your just a tool? I honestly can’t think of many people that would confuse an Asian for a Mexican. The epicanthic fold is usually a big, obvious difference.

Glancing through the comments, it sounds like most people have given Hawaii a shot; they tried to like it, especially if they were planning on living there a while. But if, everywhere you go, people are jerks looking for a fight, I can’t imagine it being that great of a place.

No where else that I’ve lived has a whole state been that bad. Isolated spots, maybe, but not everywhere. Especially public places like stores, restaurants, beaches, parks, etc.

It probably doesn’t help that Hawaiians want money handed to them by the gov. That just makes them look like money-grubbing scum. Considering how high taxes are there, it’s not too far from the truth. And bitching for moeny for an extremely small portion of the populuation? WTF?

Comment by anonymous — November 11, 2008 @ 3:07 am

Boooring. You’re boring, Mr. Sam. I’m tired of feeding the trolls; they’re simply no fun. At least ha-Y-n4Life gave me some fodder. Why can’t you people ever answer my questions? I don’t think a single person has actually given me a direct answer to any of my questions.

I get things done all the time by myself, simply because I can’t rely on others to do it for me. As the saying goes, “you want something done you have to do it yourself”.

Sure, people suck and therefore no matter where you live crap will happen. However, Hawaii is the worst place I’ve ever lived. I grew up in Idaho but I won’t say it’s perfect. Lived in Florida; again, not perfect. California, Washinton, S. Dakota, Iowa, etc. all had their problems. But, by far, Hawaii is the worst. No place is Eden, but they are a damn sight better than Hawaii.

You’ve posted on here twice, and only recently. Have you taken the time to read all 236+ comments on here? I have. And you’re outnumbered. Hawaii sucks and even locals agree.

So, I don’t care anymore. I don’t live in Hawaii and I don’t care if it sinks. I honestly hope the military pulls out of there; not because it will crash your state’s economy, but simply because I don’t want any more military people to have to suffer being stationed there.

Hence, though I will leave this site up because it gives people a place to vent, I don’t think I will be participating anymore. I simply don’t care enough to play. Maybe if a worthy troll stops by, but I doubt it.

Oh, and I will reveal to you the “idyllic place” I’m currently living at. It’s called Baghdad. And even this war-torn place and all it’s related issues is better than being in Hawaii.

Comment by crystalattice — November 11, 2008 @ 5:52 am

Mr. Sam, are you sure you were mistreated because of your race and not because your just a tool? I honestly can’t think of many people that would confuse an Asian for a Mexican. The epicanthic fold is usually a big, obvious difference.

Tool? Thats the kind of bullshit we have to deal with, people like you. You think we’re defensive? Stop being offensive. Oh I forgot, you hiding being a CPU. Enough said

Oh, and I will reveal to you the “idyllic place” I’m currently living at. It’s called Baghdad. And even this war-torn place and all it’s related issues is better than being in Hawaii.

Bullshit, still hiding.

Comment by Mr. Sam — November 11, 2008 @ 11:14 am

I think the complaints from some of these haoles are some what accuate. I wouldnt say the complaints are 100 percent correct, but I wouldnt say they are 100 percent wrong. I just think the venting blown out of proportion. I mean, maybe, the locals treated you with less patients, maybe you got no Aloha at the bars, maybe its just ity bity little bits of unkindlyness that you expirence in the public, but to go on and on about local politics, our culture, the way we speak, and social issuues of crime and what have you is a bit unfair I thnk. but also, its unfair that you feel like a second class citizen on our islands.
I dont know how to help you haoles. dont get offended when I call you haole. I use the term with endearment. But I will tell you this. If barrak Obama handles the country like George Bush did. I bet white people from all over the country will go apeshit. Only a white guy in america can fuck up the country like bush did and not cause massive riots. that being said, I fucken love hawaii, I love my locals, and let us always speak pidgin. screw what anyone thinks

Comment by hellopeople — November 11, 2008 @ 4:52 pm

To be honest, I’m surprised the White Supremacists and Neo-Nazis haven’t become established in Hawaii. I’m not advocating it but it seems like a perfect place to find recruits.

As a final note, don’t you people realize that, in this day and age, many of the things you say and do could be construed as terrorist acts? I’ve already informed NCIS and the FBI of some of the threats I’ve received.

If you want to have a civil conversation here, that’s fine. But if you threaten me, my family, or any of the military people who are forced to live there, I won’t stand for it.

Comment by crystalattice — May 22, 2008 @ 9:06 pm

Oh love this. What did you expect? As the title “Hawaii Sucks”, what did you expect? 100% support of your opinions? Hey YOU insulted not only minority races here, but an entire state! Didnt you realize when you allowed this type of dialogue out in the public that you would receive some type of backlash?

One thing YOU didnt expect was accountability for your statements. When people made threats against you, you cried and went to the FBI. Yes, you have the freedom of speech BUT you are also accountable for what you say. Another reason why people hate chickenshits like you. Really. I do admire your courage to post something as hatred for Hawaii, BUT shake my head when you dont have the nerve to stand up for yourself. REMEMBER, BY WRITING THIS BLOG, YOU INSULTED AN ENTIRE STATE WHAT DID YOU THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN?

Comment by Mr. Sam — November 12, 2008 @ 12:21 am

“Sure, people suck and therefore no matter where you live crap will happen. However, Hawaii is the worst place I’ve ever lived. I grew up in Idaho but I won’t say it’s perfect.”

Ahh, now I understand where you came from, it explains it all, Idaho. White Supremacist Militia.

Comment by Mr. Sam — November 12, 2008 @ 9:51 am

Well, I’m a tall white guy with a strong southern accent, so I don’t exactly blend in with the locals. I’ve never really had a problem with getting treated any worse than any of them though. It might be my attitude, but I’ve felt no more racism or discrimination against me than I did anywhere else.

That being said, I’ve been here 3 1/2 years and I CANNOT wait to leave. Whoever said “about all there is to do here is the beaches” couldn’t be more right. The only perks to Hawaii, in my opinion, are the asian food, the beaches (when they’re not polluted with sewage, swarmed with jellyfish and man’o'war, or overcrowded by tourists), and the weather.

Let’s see:
–Service sucks no matter what race you are.
–Shipping is outrageous
–The local government doesn’t give a crap about Native Hawaiians or the locals
–Driving is a nightmare (and I live on the windward side!– no H1)
–EVERYthing is too small. I miss being able to fit places
–Unless you have money, get used to living in dirty old houses and apartments
–It appears that the state will never recognize that it’s the 21st century. Whoever heard of dishwashers and central a/c as being luxuries??! Try finding an atm that gives anything other than $20 bills
–There’s only one way to get anywhere, meaning you’re screwed if there’s a wreck.
–Parking factors WAY too much into my daily life than it should
–It seems no one particularly cares to wash their hands after pissing, much less after a crap. It’s bad when you notice things like that.
–Aside from your neighbors, no one is all too friendly or eager to talk
–WAY too many people seem to insist on driving in the left lane on the interstate going 10 mph BELOW the speed limit, forcing you to pass on the right. What the hell??!
–Oceanic Cable seems to think it’s normal procedure to wait for 4-6 weeks to have cable TV hooked up
–Satellite TV is really not an option
–There seem to be more speed bumps in this state than there are cars on the road
–Get used to changing your shocks every 10,000 miles– these are the worst roads in the nation (an actual fact reported in the Advertiser about a year ago)

I will miss blowing past active speed traps going 15 mph over the speed limit and not worrying about a ticket, though… ;)

Comment by Stevenc — November 14, 2008 @ 5:50 pm

After only a few months I moved back to the southeast USA from Hawaii. Normally, I wouldn’t spend my time posting; however, based on my experience in Hawaii, I believe I have a duty to let people know what a horrible experience it was for me. Anyone who is thinking about moving to Hawaii needs to understand that living in Hawaii is completely different from a vacation. First, in my opinion, I found a large portion of the locals to be racists toward caucasions. Second, in my opinion, other than the resort areas many areas thoughout Honolulu are rundown and unsafe. Third, in my opinion, the food, whether at restaurants or grocery stores, was of sub-par quality. Fourth, in my opinion, everything is very expensive of of poorer quality than the mainland. In sum, I would highly discourage anyone from moving to Hawaii.

Comment by donewhi — November 15, 2008 @ 9:06 pm

I just read your blog. I know it’s old but it’s definitely accurate. Both me and my wife experience fucking discrimination on a daily basis. I am pretty fucking polite to most people I meet and I get treated like shit in return because I’m a. white and b. military. My car got stolen in broad daylight within a week of me getting back from Iraq and the cops didn’t give a fuck, and ‘nobody saw anything’. Yeah right.

Everything about this place sucks, some of the people are nice but fuck man I can’t wait to go back to California.

Comment by Grunt 0311 — November 21, 2008 @ 3:28 am

mus be 1 white guy trashing us hawaiians, we was here first an own all the land so y u no stop complaining bout hawaii an leave us alone - kauinoa!!

Comment by mike yuen ken paahana — November 22, 2008 @ 5:25 pm

“We was here first an own all the land” That says enough for me. It is not just white people on here complaining. However, I would dare any of these locals to go to the mainland and act the way they do here. I think it would be eye opening for them. Anyway, to the individual in Ewa Beach who was driving the wrong way on a one way road, and decided to shout at me and threatened to break my legs, go to school, you might learn something.

And oh yeah, lets give them this rat hole back, cut off funding, and let them become another Micronesia or Samoa.

Grunt, you are not the only one this happens to, believe that. If you are military the only thing the police here want to do is ticket you, because they know you have to pay it. The Hawaiian let it just go to warrant, they do not care. Anything other than the nice ticketing service, and you are out of luck.

Comment by Really? — November 22, 2008 @ 5:47 pm

why dosent everyone just shut da fuck up stop complaining about shit you have no control over and get on with your life. yea you maby have been mis treated here and im sorry for that but whoos to say that were not discriminated against there? im not hawiian, but i am a loacl of hawaii and hell when ive been on the mainland ive beeen talked down to and treated like crap by there too. hawaiis not the only place with raceism. youu may be treated like crap here, but theres always gonna be someplace where other races will be treated like crap too

Comment by 808k — November 24, 2008 @ 7:54 pm

The point of the article dear friend, is that Hawaii’s racism is one of the worse places in the US. Note that I said ONE…if there was a list of the worse top ten places in the US, people commenting here are saying that Hawaii would be on that list.
As for Hawaii being stolen…I should probably try to have better knowledge of it before commenting, but I’m going to comment anyway (I think I would have better knowledge had I not grown up in the Hawaii Public School system and I even graduated from UH with highest honors). From what I can tell of the comments being posted here, I think Hawaii had to vote to become a state which was like in the mid 1900s, so it seems that the people of Hawaii chose to become part of the US. It appears to me that Hawaii was not really stolen. I did write a paper at UH though, on the annexation of Hawaii. So I see the origin of the saying that Hawaii was stolen.

Whether or not it was, the annexation took place in the late 1800s…, and we voted to become a state after that, in the mid 1900s…so we had our chance then to take back Hawaii…instead we voted to become part of the US. Knowing the people of Hawaii to be mostly liberals though…someone will probably say…yeah but someone probably tampered with the votes or something like that…
One more thing about the racism issue…all my life, I’ve never really noticed it…but that’s because I’m local. During college, when I made friends with white people, that’s when my eyes were opened to it. On the term haole…I think all the local people do use it as a synonym for white, but I think it’s used as a term that promotes segregation. It enforces the “us” and “them” concept. I have used it before…but with hesitation, never with derogatory meaning though. I just used it mainly because all the locals used it.

Someone else commented about a white person being admitted to a King Kam school (and to help prove that I’m really from Hawaii, I know it’s spelled Kamehameha, and no I didn’t just look it up on the net) and I thought that was really interesting. I never really thought about how similar it is to the black person being admitted into a white school. King Kam is kind of a private school though…so that subject is kind of tricky.
I think pidgin is also tricky too. I spoke it when I was a kid, and sometimes it’ll even come out when I’m not thinking about it (especially when I’m back home). I do think everyone should learn how to speak standard English though. It doesn’t mean we should stop speaking pidgin, just that we should learn standard English to get ahead in life. You need standard English if you’re going to get a degree (or at least a degree out of Hawaii) or if you one day become a CEO of a sucessful company and want to have meetings overseas. I don’t think a Japanese business man will respond well to, “eh howzit goin’ brah?”
And the Hawaii public education system. I am a product of it. I was valedictorian, but when I’m in the company of mainlanders or international people I feel like I know nothing. I don’t know, maybe it’s just me. However, I know people who didn’t attend school in Hawaii and weren’t even that great students, but they know more than I do.

Now I normally wouldn’t say this kind of stuff…but currently I’m not home in Hawaii…but if I was people back home would be furious with me. My family and friends would not be happy with me either…which is one of the reasons I keep my mouth shut back home.

And this is coming from someone local, born and raised in Hawaii, and even from a small town. I hadn’t even been out of Hawaii until I was about in my 20s.

I do still love my home though, and it will always be home. I pray that one day it can truly be the paradise we all want it to be, and not just some show we put on for the tourists. Hopefully one day we can actually extend some true aloha to everyone (the whites, the blacks, the asians, the international foreigners, EVERYONE) and not just keep it within our local circle. Okay, I’m finally gona say alohaz now! : )

Comment by 808secret — November 27, 2008 @ 3:03 am

P.S. I wouldn’t say Hawaii sucks, I would just say it needs some help.

Comment by 808secret — November 27, 2008 @ 3:10 am

ok you know to me and many of the people i know haloe isint jsut a term to put down white people. its more a way of life. or the things people do and how they act. and i admit sometimes i get mad at the mainlanders for stupid reasons like that they can actully afford to live in nice houses here becaust they can get ahead on the mainland. ive lived here all my life and live in a crappy apartmet but when i go to the beach most often you see caucasions living in the big mansions on the water. but back on topic many times haloe is steryotyped towards the white race because of the way some of them act. simple things like making smart comments on the side when you accidently bump someone or try block someones view when your trying to see something. even making a blog about why you hate us so much. you can go ahead and say how much you hate hawaii and go and rant about it but all thats doing is reenforcing the idea that the “haoles” are all priks. i have alot of white friends, but i would never call any of the Haole because the way i see it they havent acted out in any way for them to earn that title.

Comment by 808 — December 1, 2008 @ 7:38 pm

OK, I’ve read through this entire blog and feel compelled to offer my thoughts on things. First, I’m part-Hawaiian, second, I was born and raised in Hawaii, third, I have a PhD from Harvard in Economics (I’m no idiot is what I’m trying to say).

Posts from both sides of this argument have elements of truth to them. I completely understand the reasons that have been presented as to why “Hawaii sucks,” and, for the most part, these reasons are true (although severely exaggerated at times). I also understand the animosity displayed by the angry locals on this blog because Hawaii’s is a long, sad history of exploitation resulting in socio-economic distress.

I think labeling the people of Hawaii as racist fails to take into consideration behavioral patterns of humans when they are oppressed. In this respect, a feeling of hatred toward the Haole is tied to poor economic conditions that Hawaiians perceive to be the result of white people. They do not hate the Haole because of skin color, rather because of actions that white people have taken that has lead (directly or indirectly) to a poor standard of existence.

Under international law, Hawaii’s statehood is indeed illegal, and some people have already addressed the reasons why on this blog. Some may say that Hawaiians voted for statehood, but native Hawaiians comprised about 10% (don’t quote me on this, but it’s in the ballpark) of the population at the time of the vote. Anyone who had lived in Hawaii for more than a year was able to vote, regardless of ethnicity. Further, western voting methods and procedures were relatively new to the indigenous people, and most did not vote simply because they did not understand how to do it, or even why they should do it.

Nevertheless, the US has done many good things for the state of Hawaii. A US departure would essentially doom us to becoming a third world nation. The main gripe, that many Haole do not understand, is that Hawaii would have been just fine if they had never annexed, and subsequently granted statehood to Hawaii in the first place. During the times of the monarchy, Hawaii was the most literate nation on the planet (or in the top 5).

But enough of history, why does the racist attitude still exist you ask? Well, its because most Hawaiians are poor, and most Haole are rich. Hawaiians see Haole buying homes (of which there is limited supply, it’s an island after all) and driving up real estate prices. Hawaiians can no longer afford to live where they grew up, instead forced to either move to Las Vegas or move to cheaper, and shittier, neighborhoods where they live in tenements and the kids get the bottom of the barrel of what is already the worst public education system in the nation. This pisses them off.

This attitude is displayed toward anyone who makes their situation worse, regardless of skin color, it’s just that the white man has a long history of exploitation in addition to the current real estate prospecting, making them especially easy to hate for Hawaiians. Remember, poor standard of living is an incubator for hatred, and my perception is that a lot of locals now hate EVERYBODY (including other locals), not just white people.

I do not have these ill feelings toward white people, and I am glad that Hawaii is a US state. I grew up here and currently live here, but I too have been contemplating leaving. The opportunities are very limited in Hawaii, schooling is absolutely awful for my kids, and most of the bad things stated are true (even if they are partially justified). I am not a beach person, and, if I weren’t born and raised here I couldn’t think of a reason why I would want to stay.

Finally, DO NOT get so easily offended by the term “Haole”. It is NOT the equivalent of the “N” word, and most locals just substitute it for “Caucasian” (regardless of its literal translation “no breath”). I am half-Haole, and if you asked my mom, who’s from L.A. but lived in Hawaii for 30 years what ethnicity she was, she would say Haole (seriously). She’s not ignorant or a conformist either, she has a PhD too, from UCLA.

Comment by No Judgements — December 3, 2008 @ 3:27 pm

Hawaii is an amazing place but nowhere in the world do I feel worse about so called ‘progress’ than on these fragile islands. I’d love to hear any ideas from people on how to improve things since I can’t think of any solutions. I’d also be curious to hear how people feel about Niihau. They say you can’t stop progress but perhaps we can redefine it.

Comment by Ben Dare — December 4, 2008 @ 7:38 am

you want a solution to Hawaii’s problems? How about stop being a welfare state. many families are being supported by the govt generation after generation. or how about practicing proper legislation to promote business growth and opportunities. how about improving education by getting rid of the tenure system for deadbeat teachers and making it more talant based.
regurding those that feel anger because of thier social economic status, I find it hard to have empathy simply because many dont do anything about it. how many times have you seen an immigrantj from like SE asia come to the US with nothing but a suitcase, work their ass off, send their kids to college, and pull out of poverty in just one generation. come on now. please. dont give me all this liberal bullshit about poor people. this is a market, free enterprise, capitalistic economy and society. not only do I wish common folks understood that but i wish the hawaii politicians understood that as well.

Comment by hellopeople — December 6, 2008 @ 3:35 pm

bottom line. if you dont like it then get out. you wonder why you arent treated well. you probably walk around with a stink eye look on your face as if your better than everyone there. go back to where you belong and hawaii will be a better place. have you been to kauai? have you been to upcountry big island? have you roamed through the hills of kamuela, or waiki’i ranch? have you you hiked thru waipio valley? have you hiked the hanakapiai trail? have you been to a baby’s first luau? have you been on a boat around the north shore of moloka’i? dont talk to me about hawaii being racist and dirty and graffiti. honolulu is not hawaii, not even close. oahu in general has a much bigger population than any of the other islands combined, so it is going to be different. dont generalize an entire state based on the the one part of one island you are in.

Comment by kauaian — December 17, 2008 @ 8:29 am

Currently living on the Big Island. If any “local Hawaiian” on this blog would visit the land of their ancestors, The Marquesas islands, and by extension, the rest of the French Polynesian islands, they will likely be ashamed of the way they are treating their own land. Tourists, regardless of their ethnicity are not the ones throwing empty beer bottles across the lava rocks! This comes from local kids lacking a proper education that parents and teachers should provide.
On the other side of this argument, I also believe that a lot of so called “Ha oles” would qualify, on mainland, for the term “White Trash” or “trailer trash”.
Poor Pele!

Comment by Moorea — December 17, 2008 @ 10:37 pm

Well its Christmas Eve, just put my child down to sleep, at 9 p.m., what do the idiots here do? Fire off aerial fireworks! I especially love the ones that sound like an IED going off. HPD will do nothing, which is not a shock there. Cannot wait to get the hell out of here, tired of the torture and living in a backwards society.

Comment by Is this Beirut? — December 24, 2008 @ 11:44 pm

I know the feeling, Beirut. Last night was New Year Eve, and I know we all like to have fun, but fireworks until 2 A.M.?

I guess the part that really rankles, is that my girlfriend and I were issued ridiculous citations for walking our dog in the local park past 10pm, but the local (And I emphasize the word “local” here) cannot be assed to do anything about the young thugs and idiots who sit in the same park all night drinking cheap liqour, defacing property, and yes, setting off fireworks.

Hawaii is so fucking dirty… and for you law enforcement guys out there who know goddamn well that it is not white people ruining your island, but still go out of your way to be a racist turd, it is your fault.

Comment by Anti-Haole — January 1, 2009 @ 12:15 pm

Here is the basic picture:

The local, in-bred, un-educated fools who build rock walls for the white man and who wait on white tourists, because their IQ’s will only allow this level of activity, will be wondering what to do now that the “Haoles” are not coming there anymore.

You morons should have tried to stay in school past the 4th grade. It does make sense as just a few generations ago, while people on the mainland were inventing electricity and computers, the Hawaiian’s were still living in caves worshiping “gods” who control volcanos.

I am very interested in seeing what these dumb little island monkeys will do now! I’ll bet they will come to the mainland as they are lucky that 98% of their ancestors voted to become a state. They are lucky to be citzens of the USA and I am sure we will see a whole new generation of “local” janitors cleaning up the white and black mans toilet’s in McDonald’s across the midwest.

Hawaii is a joke and the VOG will make you dumb monkeys choke!

Oh…..one more thing. The “local” woman there are smelly fat pigs who like to fight each other. They are funny to watch kind of like a mix between Shrek and a baboon at the zoo.

Comment by Haoleman — January 3, 2009 @ 11:08 am

Here in the “New Hawaii” there seems to be a similar trend of growing animosity to the ‘haole’ or ‘gringo’ from the ‘locals’. The question is, why? A previous poster explained it quite well:

From No Judgements December 3, 2008 comment, “But enough of history, why does the racist attitude still exist you ask? Well, its because most Hawaiians are poor, and most Haole are rich. Hawaiians see Haole buying homes (of which there is limited supply, it’s an island after all) and driving up real estate prices. Hawaiians can no longer afford to live where they grew up, instead forced to either move to Las Vegas or move to cheaper, and shittier, neighborhoods where they live in tenements and the kids get the bottom of the barrel of what is already the worst public education system in the nation. This pisses them off.”

When a ‘local’ sells his or her property there usually isn’t animosity towards the buyer immediately. The animosity comes when the seller has depleted the funds from the sell and has little to show for it.
Many people have good intentions for the windfall of money from the sale of their home or property. However, it is human nature that the majority of good intentions never come about. When a person experiences a sudden surplus, the surplus new trucks are purchased, parties are thrown, vacations to visit family are taken, and eating out becomes a way of life. Instead of pride-of-ownership the seller soon has an expanded waist line, a crashed or broken truck from DUI or lack of maintenance, and a rent payment that’s always a burden.

Sellers aren’t forced to sell.
If a ‘local’ wants to go see the world they can rent out their place while they travel and maintain that pride-of-ownership.

‘No Judgements’ nailed it; the root problem was/is the uncontrollable greed of the sellers. They sell, they squander, they resent, then they hate.

Comment by Costa Rica is the new Hawaii — January 9, 2009 @ 3:53 pm

Look guys… this place is what it is: A classic example of an isolated, strategically vaulable piece of land that is milked for all it’s worth. Everone is doing it. The locals are upset because they’ve been here longer and have been enjoying the control. The government wants to be able to put whatever military assets they can on the islands, in case the Japanese decide to invade, again. The local government wants to soak up as many tourist dollars as they can. The new people that live here want to get their money’s worth for moving 2,000 plus miles from home to live in “paradise.”

There are a boatload of dualities that are going on. On the one hand, Government entities/business/people are try to milk the situtation for all that it’s worth. On the other, they try to encourage you to “care about the aina” (land), “buy local” (because we don’t want our business going to Costco) and live “Aloha.”

By the way, I’m convinced that ALOHA is really an acronym for “A Lot Of Hawaiian Anger.”

Hawaii is a beautiful place. It’s small and everyone has their own idea of how it can be best put to use. (Look at the debate that’s been going on with the Superferry. People are fighting, just for the sake of fighting! Same thing with the rail system.) Everyone wants to get their own way.

Long story short… Hawaii has a lot of drama. We’ve got meth problems, economic issues, immigration issues, cultural issues, transportation issues, sewage issues, homeless issues, public education issues and a general agreement on the part of the public to completely disagree about the progression of the state in any way.

“We have a traffic problem!”

“Let’s put in a rail. The federal government will front us the cash.”

“No. It isn’t projected to go by my office and it will block my view of the beach.”

The problem with Hawaii is that it’s always in a stale-mate. I can’t wait to leave. 3 weeks left on the rock!

Comment by I'm outta here — January 19, 2009 @ 2:21 pm

I feel the frustration, that local hawaiians sense that they are not “in control” enough of the doings in their islands. Thats all well and good. However, those sentiments are nebulous and have no validity. Hawaiians still continue to own the majority of the islands homes and businesses. In a general economic sense, its bad business to withold your goods and services from people you dont like, and then complain when “your” people dont have the cash to buy your wares.

If you wont do business with white people, then new money cannot be infused into your system. If you want to own it, be prepared to be poor. If you dont want to sell to whites, or hire them, be prepared to be poor.

If on the other side of things, you want to have money, you have to sell. You have to rent. You have to provide. You are only fucking your own economy.

So dispense with the feelings of indignation and concerns over some perceived superiority. Youre not better then anyone else.

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Comment by crystalattice — January 27, 2009 @ 11:41 am

I think Hawaii is a disgrace for a U.S. state. My ex boyfriend is Hawaiian, and he even called me a haole all the time. It’s not right, and it’s racist.

I hate Hawaii. I’m never going there.

Comment by Ashtin — January 28, 2009 @ 1:09 pm

Yeh, pretty much agree with everything said in your original post. I haven’t been able to leave Oahu at all for about a year now for one reason or another(been stationed here for 1.5) and I’m DONE. Another 2.5 to go since, like katie, my husband is a Tripler resident. katie, if you are still reading this: hang in there! This life is seriously tough. crystallatice, is there any way you could forward my email address to katie?

Comment by a — January 31, 2009 @ 10:44 pm

It took a while, but having read most of the comments, I get the feeling that some of you… don’t really care for Hawaii? Just a hunch? OK, so you hate Hawaii. We get it. It’s racist. It’s backwards. It’s {insert negative comment here}. Bottom line, you HATE HAWAII. Fair enough. We’ve served more than a billion (maybe). Most went away happy. Some didn’t. So sorry we didn’t work out for you. Who knows? Maybe Baghdad IS paradise (let me ask my buddies overseas). Not that I’ll be visiting anytime soon, though.

To all who love Hawaii and consider Hawaii their home… A Big Aloha to you!

To everyone else… Well, sorry there won’t be any refunds. You takes your chances, as they say. But best of luck wherever you go.

Comment by Kelly — February 10, 2009 @ 10:31 pm

its unfortunate to that some whites don’t like it here. to understand why there is racism, read about the overthrow of the last hawaiian monarch. Other items to research is the latest movie Busting Down the Doors. To gain respect you must give respect. Some get it, some don’t.

Comment by 808 — February 14, 2009 @ 1:24 pm

I can understand why some Hawaiians might be racist because of the overflow. It doesn’t excuse it but I know where they’re coming from. But what about everyone else? The local budda-heads, Soles, the buk-buks, et. al. They’re just as racist (maybe even more?) than the Hawaiians and yet no one “stole” their land. I just don’t get Hawaii and damn, that place is all messed up.

Comment by Garret Nishimoto — February 15, 2009 @ 3:46 pm

HAWAII.
WHAT A JOKE!
I HAVE BEEN THERE TOO MANY TIMES VISITING FAMILY.
ITS ALL WONDERFUL THE 1ST. COUPLE OF TIMES BUT THEN YOU GET TO REALLY KNOW THE ISLANDS AND THE IDIOT LOCALS.
BRAIN DEAD LOSERS WHO HAVE NO AMBITION WHATSOEVER.
IVE HAD MY RENTAL CAR BROKE INTO 4 TIMES IN THE LAST 2 YEARS!
JUST READ THE NEWSPAPER THE HAWAIIAN TIMES(STILL IN PRINT ?)
, WHAT A RACIST BUNCH OF CRAP!
THE “LOCALS”(WHAT A JOKE) DONT LIKE WHITEY TO VISIT THERE, SO GREAT, DONT VISIT.
THEY WOULD BE RUBBING STICKS TOGETHER FOR WARMTH IN 6 MONTHS IF IT WASNT FOR THE TOURISM DOLLARS.
ONE MORE THING.
IF THE MAINLAND TOURISTS KNEW HOW THE DUMBSHIT LOCALS FELT ABOUT THEM THEY WOULD STOP COMING THEN HAWAII COULD GO BACK TO WHAT IT ORIGINALLY WAS,A SHIT HOLE WITH PALM TREES.

Comment by jeff thomas — February 15, 2009 @ 11:21 pm

I read all the shit that you anti hawaii people wrote and i laughed my ass off because i dont blame most of you if you had a bad experience, like the guy that got his car broken into 4 times. All it takes is a bad experience and you go crazy. I feel this as im in texas right now and the big fat white fucks here are racist idiots as fuck!!! The education here is so low and the people are too proud of their state that its rediculous. Oh and ive been to new york, maryland, ohio, and almost all of the other states, and they are a hundred times racist and “for real!!!!” incestuous pigs that live in trailor parks! I went to college and got my masters before joining the military and i heard the same shit from you people. You think that your smarter than us island locals, but I graduated with honors while you idiots were still talking about “you dont understand why the local guy got higher scores than you idiots”. Also, i hate coming back to the states mainly because of the lack of customer service(Texas sucks ass)and hospitality. I go to a restaurant and everyone stares at me and my family. Every fricken restaurant mind you. It dont matter where I go, the same shit happens, like waiting for an hour to get my food and what not. You idiots just cant stand when there is another race that has their own state and own control, something that you dont have here in the mainland, that you freak out when you experience something different. Ive experienced living here in the mainland and there are a hundred times worse shit that happens here, like a million car thefts, rape and murder going around that I would like you hawaii haters to state where you come from and I’ll tell you what I hate about your hometown. Please let it be Texas cause give you a novel on why it sucks donkey dick! Oh yeah, Ive been deployed four times already and i have to say that nothing beats hawaii, my island home.

Comment by hawaiian local — February 22, 2009 @ 10:13 am

Hawaiian Local, you sound like a drama queen. I bet you spent many nights in China Town earning some extra cash to help pay for your “education”…right?

You’ve got a big chip on your shoulder. If someone treated you badly then you probably deserve it because you’re such an asshole. I bet you can’t adapt to other ways of living. I bet if you go to a restaurant and Spam Masubi and Loco Mocos aren’t on the menu you get mad.

Go f*ck yourself.

Comment by Garret Nishimoto — February 22, 2009 @ 3:19 pm

garret nishimoto, you can suck a big dick. i never worked in china town you sad japanese wanabe hawaiian. its sad to hear people like you after i fight for my country and earn my money the real way, through blood sweat and tears. You sound like someone i went to high school with that always got punched in the mouth for being a bitch. so where are you from? too ashamed to say anything? and if you met me in person, you might actually regret calling me an asshole cause id probably be the one that helped you out when your car breaks down or helps you find your way around when youre lost cause thats the way I was brought up and taught. You on the other hand sound too ignorant and eager to argue that i feel sorry for you. Oh and by the way, your the first asian racist i ever heard from…its too sad. I bet when you were in hawaii you were the first to claim that youre hawaiian or a local. get a job bitch and get over yourself.

Comment by hawaiian local — February 22, 2009 @ 5:20 pm

Just by your reaction you are proving everybody’s point about Hawaiians and the way they act. The education is low in Texas? I’m not even sure that makes sense. People are proud of their state in Texas that it’s ridiculous? You’re kidding me right? Hawaiians are so obsessed with themselves it’s insane. I don’t know what part of New York you went to, but they are definitely not as racist as the people in Hawaii. You said that the people are “incestuous pigs that live in trailor parks”…where the hell have you been living when you went to all those different states? Also, just because you fight for our country, which I do think is great, I don’t think your career choice is the only one that is donethrough blood, sweat, and tears. I’m sure tons of people would disagree. You seem very cocky and full of yourself. I get the feeling that you are the type of American that gives the rest of us a bad name. You also mention having to wait an hour for food…it’s that such a serious problem for you? I mean, really is it? Also, You can’t really compare the rapes and murders that happen on the mainland and in Hawaii. There’s one big difference…the mainland is made of many different states…Hawaii is just one, itty, bitty, little state. I’m not sure if you forgot that little detail. You also said that you got your master’s degree. That is pretty hard to believe when you start off you second comment with, “suck a big dick”. If I didn’t know any better, I’d think you were still in high school by everything you said and how you said it. Where exactly have you stayed in the country?

Comment by mhm — February 23, 2009 @ 4:20 pm

so where are you from? still, another coward not stating where they are from. Oh and by the way, i love how the little island is pissing you off. This is america jack, and free speech is alive and well. Thats why i wrote on this blog. To tell you how it is. To explain the new york comment, there are tons of murders each day. I saw a mugging in the subway one day, it was two black males mugging an elder caucasian, and you know what, i helped the guy. No one else did shit in the train station. In Columbus Ohio, a bunch of white men start talking loud in a restaurant calling this one black man the n word till the man leaves with his two children. I was in there and left with my family out of disgust of the racism that i seen. In Los Angeles, a teenage girl is gunned down caught in the middle of a gang fight. You claim hawaiians are the most racist when racism is worse in the mainland. No matter where you go, all it will take is one bad experience to make you start stereotyping people from that are. I must admit, i did the same talking about texas, but i hope it hurt you when you read it cause thats what i felt when i read all your comments on how hawaii is blah blah blah. Now tell me, which part of america are you from? jerk, get a job.

Comment by hawaiian local — February 23, 2009 @ 5:27 pm

hawaiian local, what happened to the spirit of aloha? You’re only adding fuel to the fire; you’re the stereotypical male asshole from Hawaii. What you experience isn’t racism, it’s people reacting to your attitude. If you act like an asshole people will not treat you well.

Again, go fu*k yourself.

P.S. I live in Hawaii so go eat that big dick you’ve been talking so fondly about.

Comment by Garret Nishimoto — February 24, 2009 @ 2:48 pm

So that is you that went to my high school and used to get punched in the mouth for talking shit and not being able to back up your big mouth! i remember you, its sad that you had all these anti hawaii thoughts in your head bro. i used to feel sorry for you. even though you used to claim your from california. all of a sudden your talking about spirit of aloha after you get a taste of your own medicine? what a fake. at least im real and know what i am. i aint no racist, just some one who read this blog, loves hawaii, loves america, and read the tons and tons of negative shit being said about my home. when i take a stand and a side you all get butt hurt and write shit back to me like im a cocky mutha !@#@ well, get a lift garrett and friends. i hope youre working for the state cause that would be the biggest ironic thing to happen in the history of the world nishimoto! you probably shit your pants after reading my response huh buddy. oh and one more thing asian racist, your the sterotypical asshole for calling locals, “local budda-heads, Soles, the buk-buks, ” dont you think that you got some pent up hate cause you used to get slapped around in high school? get a life punk! oh and, go fuck your self while your at it

Comment by hawaiian local — February 24, 2009 @ 4:11 pm

P.S. fort drum, ft. meade, ft irwin, ft stewart(loved that place), ft hood, ft bliss, ft lewis(loved the hunting), ft carson, ft riley,ft bragg, ft polk(not much there) is where ive been other than the four years and multiple units in germany ive been. the only place im saving for retirement is back home in hawaii. so you tell me where youve been. ive been all over the states both as enlisted and as an officer, so you tell me those experiences(which ive seen happen to other people not just me), are not genuine? ill tell you this, i love america, and i love this blog cause ima keep writing on this till it aint fun no more. oh and Garret nishimoto’s still an ass.

Comment by hawaiian local — February 24, 2009 @ 4:33 pm

I find it funny that there are an even amount of negative comments coming from both local residents and newcomers/tourists, when the truth is that ALL Americans continue to suffer from a diminishing quality of life, whether it’s a lack of education, an increase in unemployment, crime and drug use/abuse; paranoia and intolerance. The one thing that everyone has in common here is how futile their attempts are to be justified for being tolerant or intolerant. This is how the end begins: now with a bang, but with a blog. About nothing.

Comment by hawaiianpunchdrunk — February 25, 2009 @ 10:03 pm

thanks for the comment hawaiian punch…i believe you hit it on the nail with that.

Comment by hawaiian local — February 28, 2009 @ 10:23 am

Well I didn’t pay to get here, and I’m stuck for a couple weeks, but I’m ready to leave. Waikiki isn’t paradise. Nice weather, but way to touristy. It’s no different than any other tourist destination IMO. I’m lucky that I have a rental car so I can get out and about. Getting away from Waikiki/Honolulu you find nicer folks, and less people. I dunno, this place is OK, but I wouldn’t spend my own money to come here. Maybe another island, but not Oahu.

Comment by stuck — March 1, 2009 @ 7:42 pm

I have a lot to say on this subject, from a “locals” point of view…

Comment by relieved — March 8, 2009 @ 3:28 pm

Crystalattice….thank you for starting this blog. It does give people a chance to offer their perceptions and feelings about this “over-advertised” place we call “paradise”, or Hawaii.

I am 33 years old, born and raised on Oahu, of Japanese/Chinese descent. I am 4th generation. I have been very fortunate to travel to different countries and other states in the US. This is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY for someone who has grown up on an isolated island in order to NOT become very small minded, ignorant and paranoid. However, many people do not have that opportunity and become entrapped in the “small mindedness” of the typical local culture.

Believe me, I’ve seen it all here. Hawaii is a sub-standard, ghetto-fab, money pit full of poorly educated, small-minded people. It is very shameful to see the locals behave the way they do, all because they’re “local” and feel “proud” of it. Proud to hate? Hmm. Ever heard of “reverse prejudice”? This place is rampant with it. Locals will automatically dislike you just because you’re not from here, thinking you are stereotypically judgemental towards them, or think you’re better than them. So they pick on the “haoles” that stand out, particularly the military. And NO, not all haoles that get beaten were running their mouth off. It was solely because your typical “moke” hates whites, and they feel justified to show it. Waianae is full of haters, going around killing whites just because they think it’s cool.

I feel protective of my white friends and family even though I never get picked on because I look local. Yes, there’s prejudice everywhere, but that doesn’t make it right. I feel more at home in Oregon, Washington and Minnesota than I do here! Why? Because people are not as hateful and slow-minded in general. It depends where you go, but for a small island, prejudice is rampant here. There is a lot of DENIAL in the local culture. They do not think they are what others see them as, but it is true. We are like a 3rd world country dependent on the military and tourism for our welfare, full of poorly educated, hateful people who think they’re shit hot because they are from HAWAII…Hawaii didn’t invent beautiful beaches and cultural diversity…you find that AND BETTER in other places around the world. The small mindedness is because of the sheltered life many locals live here, so isolated from the rest of the world. Not ALL locals are like this, but this IS the general mentality and social make up of local people on OAHU. The Big Island is my favorite island, but even I got picked on for being from Oahu…go figure…prejudice is everywhere in the islands. Very tribal mentality.

I’d rather be considered a “katonk”(a term for a mainland Asian) than be cosidered “local” if it means avoiding the stigma of your “typical local person”. You can try to cover up all the shit with excuses and justifications, but it is what it is…

Now, I don’t “hate” anybody. It’s a waste of my precious energy to hate. I severely dislike things here, and yes, I am anxious to leave so that my daughter can have a better future with more opportunities elsewhere. Also, to live a decent life in Hawaii you have to pay an arm a a leg..for what? A sub-standard house in a ghetto neighborhood that costs half a million dollars? People who think hands-down this is the “best” place to be may not have been around enough to see other places, and they probably don’t feel the need to…why? Because it would shatter the little world they live in in their minds.

I might catch heat for turning my back on the “local culture” but that’s okay…that just means there’s a greater distinction made. All the mokes that responded in this blog…you are so typical of what makes the island an ugly place. It’s a beautiful island, but the internal corruption makes it a shit hole. You can keep it…no loss. You’d all just bitch and moan if your modern conveniences were taken away from you because you hate the “big brother”, yet depend on him.

Thanks again crystalattice…thank you for serving our country also. May you be as safe as possible in Baghdad, or wherever you may be.

Comment by relieved — March 8, 2009 @ 3:52 pm

Also, people who compare Hawaii to the mainland are usually referring to big cities like L.A., N.Y.C, and the like…I would NEVER want to live in places like that, simply because the bigger and more congested the city, the more animal-like people can become, because of the survival instinct. If you feel “outnumbered” you tend to be more on edge and stand-offish, which is what Oahu primarily has become due to the congestion here.

I have been to some absolutely beautiful places on the mainland where people are much more polite and things are very well put together…Hawaii is just a haphazard mish-mosh of ghetto and fab, with sunshine. lol

Comment by relieved — March 8, 2009 @ 4:08 pm

As for the Hawaiian Monarchy that got overthrown…seems like that’s existed throughout history. Nations overthrow other nations, the stronger overtakes the weaker. It’s not fair, but survival of the fittest so they say. My ancestors got put in concentration camps during WWII just because they were Japanese and abused for it…I’m not screaming “affirmative action” and blaming the country and white people for it. There are many opportunities available to the American Indians and Hawaiians that are not available to others, but I’m not complaining about it. They sure do. Seems like no matter what you do, they just like to complain. History is written already. The Hawaiian monarchy made their choices and we have what we have today…they allowed it to happen, whether you claim victimization or not…they made their choices. Blaming other white people because of what some non-related white person did over a hundred years ago to your ancestors is allowing yourselves to be victimized, just like your ancestors. No wonder the white man took over…no one wants to accept responsibility here. You want to ride the gravy train, but complain when things don’t go your way, and hate the hand that feeds you.

As for the “pidgin language”..I grew up hearing it, and even speaking it myself. I stopped because I realized I felt like a total idiot when I spoke broken English. Culture, history or not, it’s still immigrant talk and makes you feel and look stupid. We are more advanced now, and there is no excuse to speak poorly if you have proper education available to you. Although it’s sad that even the teachers speak pidgin in class…again, a sub-standard way of living, and a general blind eye acceptance of it…but nooo…Hawaii people are so special other people just don’t “get it”. If you can turn a blind eye, and live by the motto “ah, good enuf”, then Hawaii may be your place. I would like to see my tax dollars at work in the infrastructure of this state, but they get invested in tourism and the military because that’s what we RELY on to stay afloat economically.

That’s okay…we’re looking to move soon, and what a relief that will be. All the best. :-)

Comment by relieved — March 8, 2009 @ 4:34 pm

The word “haole” in most instances is not a racial epithet or slur. Locals use it as identification, as in “Oriental”, “Filipino”, etc. it just indicates “Caucasian” to most. Now, “f#%king haole”, that is a racial slur.

Comment by JAYZ — March 10, 2009 @ 9:06 am

I was born and raised here. I’ve got a decent job with a decent upbringing. Within the last few years, my job required me to travel to different parts of the great U.S. of A. My wife, who was also born and raised here, and I agree….we’re leaving Hawaii when we retire. Hawaii truly is backward when it comes to the rest of the nation. People here don’t know how to drive. (Here’s a clue, if you’re crusin’ in da fast lane…den you no belong dea! No slow down when I stay tailing your ass! Move to da right!) Unions here have nothing but there self preservation in interest. Other parts of the country have laws to establish fair labor practices. Not Hawaii though, the unions have too much power and influence the political atmosphere with their self serving needs. The court system sucks. Too many bleeding heart judges on the bench who were appointed by liberal democratic governors. If Hawaii were to change to a system where judges are elected and held accountable by their peers, then there might be a change in attitude. I’ve alyways said Hawaii is TOO dependant upon tourism, it’s all we got here. In my younger days, I never liked our Sen. Daniel Inouye and would ALWAYS vote to get the democrat out. As I got older I understood his importance as a senior senetor and what that means for Hawaii. Hawaii is in deep kaka when he is no longere there. Furthermore, thank goodness we have such a huge military population here. Without the military (could it be considered an industry?) unemployment would skyrocket and residence would be heavily burneden with taxes to compensate for the lost revenue that the military brings here. I agree there is much racism here. There are many, many, good folks here, but the ignorant ones (and there are many, many, of them as well) give Hawaii a bad rap. What happened in Hawaii many years ago, HAPPENDED MANY YEARS AGO! Get over it! Move on! I hate to say it but the cycle of hatred perpetuates itself with each new generation.

Comment by Local braddah — March 10, 2009 @ 9:22 am

The problem with Hawaii is that the population is growing too fast with no more room for new development. You find more and more people on the island with less job opportunities, and with less job opportunities, there are more low income households and yes, ghetto areas.

True, Hawaii isn’t paradise. Even Waikiki isn’t paradise. But we make the best of what we have here. I’ve lived here my entire life and I agree that it’s not the best place to live, especially now during these hard economic times. I sure don’t want to raise a family here. But for now, this is my home. And I respect it.

No matter where you go, there will always be racism. If I go to certain parts of the mainland, I’m treated very differently. You can either shrug it off as ignorant people saying dumb things that don’t really matter, or you can take it to heart and carry that anger with you everywhere you go. It’s your decision.

Life is way too short… Make the best of what you have now, no matter where you are.

Comment by localgirl — March 10, 2009 @ 3:55 pm

I, too, hate Hawaii. I lived there for five years between 1969 and ‘74. I hated every goddamned minute of it (after the initial novelty wore off.) I hear it’s a nice place to visit if you don’t know any better. I can credit the crummy place for providing me with a taste for fried Spam and rice to go with my eggs in the morning. Other than that you can write that dump off completely. Shaka, motherfucker. LOL.

Comment by Dave — March 11, 2009 @ 2:44 pm

All I can say is wow. As a black male who grew up on the mainland and now calls HI home, I am amazed at this level of hate and animosity. I have to say that it APPEARS that this whole “I hate Hawaii” thing is stemming from a classic case of reverse racism. If you have lived as a part of the majority, you never really get to see how the minority is treated…until you’re the minority. While I can’t say I’ve never heard crazy things here, I can’t say that for any other state or country I’ve been to, either. Bottom line is, idiots live EVERYWHERE. I read that everyone has a bit of prejudice in them. I think that’s true, and I admit that I am prejudiced. If you’re an idiot, I’m prejudiced against you.

Look, let’s all be honest with each other. Hawaii is only being singled out because some white people are now experiencing what many minorities have always experienced. While it isn’t everywhere, racism is still alive and well in America in general. Hawaii is no different. Anyone that can honestly tell me that the state they’re from isn’t racist is not being honest with themselves.

The thing that we have to realise is that it’s up to us where we go from here.

Comment by naloboy — March 12, 2009 @ 2:25 am

Spent many a family trips at Hilotown and Kona side of big island.
Very sad that the locals are so rude to white people.
its a beautiful place if you can stomach such ignorant hateful morons.
Sure all 50 states have problems but ounce for ounce Hawaii is the worst.

Comment by brad robinson — March 12, 2009 @ 9:56 pm

Mr. Crystalattice,
First and foremost, I would like to congratulate you on earning your Master’s degree. I’m sure it was a challenging road and to wave one around…well you have the bragging rite. I would also like to say; for the remainder of this post I will call you Bob, since writing your screen name will take a bit more key strokes than simply stamping out…Bob (that’s another thing you could potentially add as one of your top ten reasons why you hate Hawaiians…laziness). I’ve read majority of the posts on your blog and I am quite astonished as to some of the things that I have read regarding both sides of the table. But before I get into any of that, I would like you to know how I came across this site. I was reading the Honolulu Advertiser one day and I had seen an article labeled something along the lines of “SNL Skit, Gone Too Far”. As I looked at the picture I could see two guys dressed in an Aloha shirt and grass skirts, one of which clutched a ukulele. I instantly knew what the topic was about. After watching the video provided and laughing to myself, I read some of the comments people left behind and read of someone challenging Senator Akaka to do something about this website. Curiosity had the best of me, so I checked it out, and for the first time in my life, of a mere 22years, I felt offended.
I have read nearly all of your comments and I have come to the conclusion that you really enjoyed writing about your hatred of Hawaii. You willingly admitted that ha-Y-n4Life was a good opponent. You are obviously white, from the mainland, is part of the military (Navy I believe), and could possibly have a wife and kids. All of this came to me all at once after reading your opening post of “Hawaii Sucks”. Oh, by the way may I ask, is it your first, second, or third wife? I heard that military members tend to have at least two divorces throughout their career. Oh don’t bother to look that statistic up. I just felt since you tend to judge things by what you hear and read from the internet, that I could come to conclusions based solely on hear-say. Please, don’t get the wrong impression of me, I may sound like a prick, but I assure you that I am a very pleasant individual. I’m just trying to give you a taste of your own medicine, although I know for a fact, that that is an impossible task. I’m really writing to you to give you the answers to the questions you have been longing to hear. I’m not sure how well you will hear what I have to say, because truthfully, all those questions have already been answered. Do you know who answered them??? It was YOU. Every question you posted you have listed your answer. Therefore, why even ask the question? There is no changing someone’s mind when they are so stuck in what they believe in. Think of radical Islam, and maybe you will have a better understanding. “How could you compare radical Islam with the things I say and the beliefs I believe in,” cried Bob. Reread the things you have written and the replies you have received and you will see that no matter how many facts people send you, there is no changing your mind, even if it is wrong. In that sense, you are just like any other radical in this world.
There are tons of things I would like to call you out on. A lot of things you say and the facts you provide have no backbone. For instance, this:
“The local government could care less about doing its job and corruption is rampant across the islands”.
Where exactly did you find this, or did you formulate it in your head? Also, you mentioned sewage spills that have been “dumped” into the Ala Wai which leads to Waikiki Beach. You are picking and choosing what you want your readers to see. Ever mention the sewage spills on Pearl Harbor. Ever mention about the Navy failing to report a 5000 gallon spill of raw sewage during the Port Royal grounding? No you haven’t, so I hope, at the least, you added those numbers to the 48 million of raw sewage dumped and any other sewage spills the Honolulu Advertiser reported the Navy being responsible for. Yes, I am consciously attacking you with this, knowing that you are in the Navy. Another “fictitious” fact you provided was about statehood. Hawaii became annexed to the US in the late 1800’s (yes I learned that in history class). Hawaii later became a state in 1959. Do the math. That’s more than 60 years that “foreigners” had time to migrate to the islands. I didn’t use the term Ha’oles because according to what you posted, “Ha’ole” means white person. “Foreigners” allows the conception that Filipinos, Japanese, Koreans, Chinese, Germans, Puerto Ricans, Europeans, and of course Caucasians all migrated to HI during that time. Don’t believe me…do a little search on who was working in the plantations during the annexation. Don’t you think these individuals had a say in statehood. Do you honestly think that 95% of true, native born Hawaiians voted “yes” for statehood. You have to be out of your mind! And what did you say about 5% of Native born Hawaiians being here. That would mean less than 1% of Native born Hawaiians would have to vote “no” to reach that percentage. Get out of dodge son! I thought you had your Masters? Another thing I would like to quote you on is this:
“I don’t deny that racism is alive and well throughout parts of the US. Even if you’re white and traveling through Alabama, if you don’t look like you fit in you can get your butt beat. I would imagine that a lot of it in places like Vegas is because of tourists, both the people saying derogatory things and the ones who invite the comments.”
Well, would you look at that. Tourists, racism, and people inviting comments. Isn’t that why you started this site? To stir up drama? Because that is all you did. You are a drama queen in every meaning of the word and I mean a whole lot of emphasis on the word “queen”. And another one:
“If you sound like an idiot, people will consider you an idiot.”
Well that pretty much sums it up for you…an idiot. You have no idea what you are talking about. You get your facts from bias websites and hearsay. You figure that if something happened to you that rubbed you the wrong way and was handed out to you by a local, that every single inhabitant of the islands are just like that one individual. I am curious Bob, what was it that caused you to hate Hawaii so much that caused you to do, what seems like, hours of research on us. Hours of research to find every little “nitty gritty” fact on us that will make us look bad. What was it Bob? Or is it that you are so intrigued by the local people that you dream of being a local? Guess what, you can’t and never will be a local. (expecting a lot of comments on that one)
“My wife has a friend who was born here (parents were military). Even though she is technically Hawaiian by birth, she is still treated like crap because she looks white and no one respects her.”
She is NOT Hawaiian by birth. Does she have any Hawaiian blood, or are you labeling her Hawaiian because she was born here? Like you said, there is only 5% of Hawaiians in Hawaii. Did our percentage just go up? Masters?
“Much of what people bitch about was a result of the British, not the US. Yes, some bad things happened but you can’t blame it all on America.”
Oh so now we hate Americans, and not just white people. Holy hell, what are you complaining about. Americans or ethnicity. Everything till this point was how we locals hate white people; ha’oles as you labeled them. Now we hate Mexicans, African Americans, Japanese, Chinese, Germans, British, Vietnamese, and every other ethnicity. Because the last time I checked they all make up a percentage of the AMERICAN citizens. Again, the same one word question…Masters? You’re beginning to sound like an idiot again.
“Why would pidgin develop based on English? If many of the people came from East Asia, wouldn’t it make sense that they would have a hybrid Asian language? I wasn’t around then, and neither was anyone else nowadays, so none of us know the true story.”
Actually, I know the true story and so does any local in Hawaii. Pidgin wasn’t developed way back when during the Ancient Hawaiian days. Pidgin is a relatively new dialect, not a language. Pidgin is the use of words from various cultures and ethnicities. We use words that come from the Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, Hawaiian, and English languages. If you think they talked Pidgin way back when, you’re crazy. And if you think Ancient Hawaiians came from East Asia, you’re wrong again. They came from Polynesia.
“Finally, how dare you accuse me of being racist and treating minorities like trash. You know nothing about me, you don’t know my history, nor do you know how I treat people. Hell, you don’t even know if I’m a minority myself. My ancestors could have been slaves. I may be white but it doesn’t mean I don’t know oppression.”
My friend, this entire site is a place where racism can manifest and you’ve created it. What does that say about you? You know, there are a few people you have told in replies to go back and read your posts. I think it’s about time you read your own posts. You are generalizing, not just the locals, but every individual who is of a different skin color than white. You are constantly using the phrase, “you people,” in majority of your posts. You have said that black and Japanese people are treated with more respect that Whites. What are you saying really? What it sounds like is that White people should be above those two I just listed. You may have not meant that, but that is what it sound likes. And I believe you have said in an earlier post that “perception is reality”. And as far as you being a minority, I can guarantee you, that you are NOT a minority. I think that being in Hawaii was your first true taste of prejudice towards yourself, and not just white people. It hurts doesn’t it? I’ve experienced the very same thing when I went to Texas, Georgia, and Mississippi for training. Yes, I myself am in the military and have traveled to many places. When I was in the above states, I was labeled a Mexican. I have a cigar burn on my left hand from a man in Savannah, Georgia. After burning me and running out the door of a bar, I chased after him (he was an obese white dude…I didn’t say Ha’ole), tackled him to the ground, and pounded his face red. All the while, he was yelling, “f’n Mexican”. I was doing nothing wrong but singing karaoke and looking like a Mexican. In Texas, I had mustard thrown at me while wearing my Blues and out on “town pass”. You’re absolutely right that racism is all over the world, and if you really think about it…every single person on this planet is, to an extent, prejudice.
Now I can go on and on, pulling quotes from your very own posts, but I’ll stop here. I know I haven’t answered your questions, and that’s because you don’t even know what you’re asking about. Get your facts straight and give me a list of questions and I will happily answer them in a non-bias, or negative way. I have only one more thing to say. Every person who had something to say in a negative manner towards locals on this entire site generalized us all. Hawaii has eight islands, and I’m pretty sure you haven’t been to every one of them during your tour here. Yet, everything is directed to Hawaii. Almost everything you and others said was regarding the one island of Oahu, but you and they used the term Hawaii. Oahu is a one large and over-crowded city. You will never experience what many have mentioned on Kauai, Lanai, parts of Maui, and the Big Island. You will not see one person on Kahoolawe who will call you a Ha’ole and shun you, because there is not a single inhabitant on that island. You will never know what Niihau is like, because no one is permitted there except the Robinson family, their close friends, and relatives of the people who are there that have moved to outer islands. Do not judge all of Hawaii because of a bad experience you had with one person, or a group of persons, or even something that you heard. And to all the local braddah’s out there…there are a few bad apples in every tree. We should never take things so serious. The reason I went on, what seemed like, a rampage on Bob, was to back up the reputations of the locals who keep to themselves. Especially those of us from Kauai, the GI. My closing note:
For all of you who swear that Hawaii sucks and is a drug infested ghetto I feel so sorry for you. At the same time I am happy, grateful, and overjoyed. For you select few will never…ever…see the true beauty of our islands.
Bob, if you feel that this shouldn’t be posted, you can send me an email at spawk_plug@hotmail.com. All that really matters is that you have read this far and that I got to spend some time under your skin. I don’t care what others say, I’m interested if you can back up your facts and your demeanor.

Comment by Tim — March 16, 2009 @ 9:15 pm

As a brotha( black man) in Hawaii, I have had no problems that I havent had in the mainland. There will be ignorant folks everywhere. I get love from locals guys. You gotta understadn that locals beef with each other. This place is not homogenous as one may think. I m from the south and the attitude is somewhat the same: we love our families, we take care of our elderely, we eat big and love to throw meat on the grill. That is how I grew up so I familiar with that. Some people that come to Hawaii are straight up weird. Even some of my people that come here are off..they would be looked at funny if they came to my neck of the woods.

We should not make it like Hawaii has some type of problem because they do things different. My wife is from here’ I like it, but no place like home. I never get stink eye from nobody. This is actually, to some extent, a place where you are actually judged or treated by the content of your character, rather than the color of your skin. I say to my mainland comrades stop crying so much and enjoy something new!!!

Comment by blkinhawaii — March 17, 2009 @ 5:18 pm

I am a caucasian who is fifth generation in Hawaii.I would never be mistaken for a Kanaka maoli.(sp?) Yet I do not feel all of the Hawaiians hate us.My mother was Hanaied along with two other childred. One of these dhildren was my Aunt who was full blooded Hawaiian. She spoke the language fluently. This is here explanation of the word hao’li. Though you are correct in assuming that Hao’li means white to most people today it is not an insult.Even in it’s orgin it never ment any thing negtive.It ment without breath not without soul. When ancient Hawaiianans greeted each other they wood touch heads and share breath. When Captian Cook and the missionaries came they shook peoples hands. They did not share breath or ha. Ha meaning breath o’li meaning no.Most of the people do not hate Hao’li but there are people who are still up set over the unjustices done to the Hawaiian people. (I am not going to get into that.)If aproched by some one who acts as if they are superior they will take offence.How you are treated is determined by your actions.I have never had any problems.Now as to Hawaii being a slum. You spoke only of Oahu. There are 7 permently inhabited Islands in the state of Hawaii of which Oahu is only the third largest. There are only alittle over a million in the state of Hawaii. Three fourths of those people live on Oahu. You wonder Why it is crowded and hase homeless.But even on Oahu if you get out of the city to places like Kahalu You will find it very beautiful.The city sadly has all of the problems of any other city. That however does not make Oahu any more of a waste then New York.I think you need to research the entire state and get your facts straight before you say Hawaii sucks.

Comment by Donna — March 17, 2009 @ 5:48 pm

I’m very sorry.

And I’m kind of afraid of what I’m going to say next, because I don’t mean to be disrespectful. I’m just being honest.

It’s very very very hard not to have a small racist feeling against a tourist.
No matter how much I love my haole grandma from Missouri
And my neighbors that just moved here from the mainland
and like and respect my haole friends and the people I’ve met
It is so incredibly hard
to break a feeling of habit that I was inadvertantly raised to feel.

Most of us really don’t know what it feels like to be discriminated against because of race, so it’s hard to have the gut reaction of empathy when we see minorities. My dad feels that gut reaction of empathy because he grew up seeing my grandmother being snidely teased because she didn’t know much about the culture.

I’m not excusing racist actions, I’m just explaining.

First impressions are not everything, though. Everything changes once I meet someone. I know this isn’t true for a lot who live here, but I know for a fact if you let us get used to you, they will accept you. Especially when we see that you are humble. I love humble people. :)

Comment by abcdefg — March 18, 2009 @ 2:10 am

Yes, Oahu has morphed into a big city that has lost it’s true Hawaii spirit…you can feel the difference when you go to other islands where things aren’t so congested. However, Hawaii is practically synonymous with “Waikiki”, which is located on the most visited and congested island, Oahu. In fact, I’d estimate 85% of the population of the State of Hawaii being on Oahu. The other islands don’t really count in this debate…figures they don’t like Oahu people coming on their island because we tend to be very urban, and they like to keep the country feel. I ABSOLUTELY agree with preserving whatever we can of what I remember the Hawaiian Spirit being like. It’s nice to go to the other islands and be reminded of it because Oahu’s just lost it completely. But, still…Oahu is what it is…the “gathering place”, where it’s gotten too big too soon and I think people here are edgy because we are fighting for space, and paying an arm and a leg for whatever space we can afford. lol

Nobody likes arrogant people, but watch out for the “reverse prejudice” of assuming tourists and particularly white military are going to be arrogant just because they’re visitors…we’ve got a lot of assholes in amongst our local people too. Yes, prejudice unfortunately is everywhere, but again, it doesn’t make it right.

Comment by relieved — March 19, 2009 @ 2:27 pm

There is just one thing I forgot add earlier.There is one common thread running through all these blogs.This is the most prejudice place ever.The strange things is that the people saying it are white, not black or any other ethenic group.The truth is that though ther is some prejudice here like any place else. The differance is the prejudice that is here is directed aginst whites.So as far as your concerned it is not a problem anywhere else. You never saw it because it was not directed aginst you. Whether you want to belive it or not the American government was duped by ambitious Missionaries from New England into over throwing the peaceful Hawaiian Government. The then president of the United States went before congress and called it a barbarous act aginst a peacful nation.This is the cause of the animosity towards whites here. Do not try and tell me I do not know what I am talking about.I was born in the territory of Hawaii.My Grand parents were born under the Hawaiian Monarchy.And I know when I was a child it was even illegal for Hawaiians to speake their own language.Yes ther were many rights not given to Hawaiians such as the right to vote because the constitution established by the provisional government at the time of the over throw did not recognize land owned by Kings deed. As a result most Hawaiians were not recognized as land owners and only land owners could vote. I only have my hao’li grand parents word on this as well as my teachers in the privet school I attended( St. Anthony) here in Hawaii on Maui.So from this back ground there is bound to be some animosity towarsd whites.If you know this and under stand that through no falult of your own you are being judged by what someone else did. Not any differnt then you since you have judge all locales by a few bad. Then you might approch the problems with a little less arrogance.Yes I said arrogance for that is how you appear in print. Though there are bad seeds in every group most locals are just regular people who see and do things a little differnt then you.You see I am Hao’li I too did not choose to be here. I was born here. I have been all across the U.S.I am proud to be An American even with all of Americas flaws.I also love Hawaii and it’s people.I acknowledge that they have been served an injustice. Still I could never live anywhere else but here and be happy.I can see it,s beauty I am sorry you can’t

Comment by Donna — March 20, 2009 @ 12:56 am

You come off a little conceited as well as arrogant. That’s all the Hawaiian people complain about it seems: the overthrow of their monarchy & the taking away of their land. (Then there is the occasional complaint about how a tourist was “looking down on them”…wonder why? P.S. Donna: Try spell and grammar checking your post before you reply. People will believe that your have an education and therefore will actually take your post into consideration. If not, then it will be taken as a joke or something that a little punk did.

Comment by mhm — March 20, 2009 @ 10:25 am

For the grammar I apologize I was very tired at time of both entries and did not take the time to check it. But I really will not apologize for the rest. I just wish you would try to give the people here a chance. I really am sorry you can’t.

Comment by Donna — March 20, 2009 @ 1:29 pm

I have given the people here a chance…try a whole 2 years. You don’t know whether or not I am able to give them a chance. How do you know that I haven’t? Why don’t the people here give everyone else a chance? We are not the only ones that have to be accepting you know. The people that live here have to also. What if it is the other way around? What if they have not given us a chance? Don’t be so quick to assume that it is all our fault.

Comment by mhm — March 20, 2009 @ 9:04 pm

I really don’t assume it is all your fault. I agree that there are prejudice people here like everywhere else. All I am saying is that not everyone feels and acts that way. I also am truly sorry that you had the misfortune of running into Some jerks. I am afraid there is no way to make you see that as unfair as it may seem it is only you that can make your life bearable. You can sit here and make things worse by passing judgment on entire state or you can try to understand it. I am afraid however that this is an exercise in futility. As a fellow hao’li I can to a certain extent empathize with your discomfort. As to how you can change this situation I am afraid we will remain at an impasse. I will never agree with your conclusions and you are not capable of understanding mine. Thank you how ever for the back handed complement. I am just old enough to find being likened to a little punk humorous. At my age I don’t get to be called a punk often. I’ll take being made to feel young again any time even if it is an insult. Good by and good luck I leave you too your misery.Once again I am sorry I could not help you understand.

Comment by Donna — March 20, 2009 @ 9:46 pm

Conceited? mhm, In what way did she say that she was better than everyone else?

I do understand that our history of repression sounds like a bogus defense, but it’s not just something we blame it on–it was what we were raised on. Our grandparents were faced with prejudice way back then and so it was in them to blame the mistakes made by any other foriegn haole stranger (not a haole they knew) to be because they are a foreign haole. Hmm…That came out wrong. It’s basically guilty by association. Unfortunately. And then the negative connotation that the grandparents might use against something a haole did will rub off on their children. Then then it will be passed on to their children. Make sense? It’s something we were raised to do–a habit thats hard to break. And actually, many of us don’t even realize we are prejudice. when we are just casually talking story and someone might say how someone did something incredibly rude or arrogant that day, and it’s just a common response to say, “oh cuz he was haole das why.” Because that’s the logic our parents gave us.

And many may think, “Why don’t you just get a brain for yourself and think what you know is right?”
I read many responses to this blog complaining about our low education.
I know many of you already made the connection.
When your parents devalue education, or your community devalues being better than anyone else, it’s a lot easier to just bond and share love with those who love you and believe what they believe rather than go agianst everyone and be a big big igregiously shiny star and make something of yourself. Even if that igregiously shiny star means no offence to them, they will feel belittled, and things just won’t be the same.

And another thing about guilty by association. It’d be easier for me to see a person rather than the personality associated with a color and style if I was surrounded by them. Thats why we have cliques in high school. If I was suddenly moved to a place in the midwest, I would see everyone as a whole, and certain traits would stand out because they would match the supposed traits that I was raised to understand what haole people had. But as I continued to live there, I’m guessing those traits wouldn’t stand out so much, and other traits–their REAL PERSONALITY–will stand out more. I only guess this because when I was little, I had a more prejudice view of haoles because of the comments I was surrounded by. But as I grew and met more haole people from the mainland, I began to see their real personalities rather than only the traits I was raised to point out.

And just to clear things up, my high school that I attended was considered a ghetto school. Yet a lot of the military students that came became popular quickly and made a lot of friends, despite a lot of our supposed prejudice students (A LOT of them become friends, actually.)
So I do think people are given chances. Our history can blind us some, but when your good attitude shines through it, we will really love you.

Comment by abcdefg — March 21, 2009 @ 6:22 pm

This planet is big people, spread out… Every race enjoys being dominant, majority rules whether you like it or not. California has been taken over by latin americans, just like we europeans took it over from american indians. All is fair in love and war, and we lost the population war. The race that has the most offspring will dominate, that is true in all organic life period. This is not a social issue, it is science and math. I now live in Idaho (by choice) where my people are in the majority, conservative white christians. I want my children raised among their kind. Chickens with chickens, turkeys with turkeys, donkeys with donkeys. This is how it works people, I dont put a horse with my cows, it will dominate the food supply and the cows will die during winter from mal-nutrition. Out on the range the cows are passive, if a herd of horses is grazing on a pasture they go find another pasture to graze on. People should do the same thing. Certain fish will eat eachother, this is not instinct it is choice. You hoalies don’t like Hawaii, so get out. Or, have more children and dominate in 100 years. I was actually thinking about moving to Hawaii, thank god I read this blog. I don’t even want to visit Hawaii now. Every good place on earth has been ruined by too many people fighting over it, let the pigeons have the damn place they can populate and crap on eachother just like good pigeons do and will always do.

Comment by Rusty — March 26, 2009 @ 8:44 pm

Well I know that you are going to trace this URL so before you do let me tell you I am using my grandmother’s friend’s computer. I live on Hawaiian homelands in Kahukinui on Maui. We do not have internet capabilities at our homestead. Grandma’s friend Aunty Donna told me how she had come across this web page and how it had saddened her. She got my curiosity I had to read it. That being said I think the best way for you to understand my point of view is if I share a little of my life story. First of all I am not Hawaiian despite the fact that I live on Hawaiian Homelands. My husband is though. I am Pilipino, English and Black. I was born the bastard daughter of a military man. He stayed just long enough to take a photo holding me in the hospital on the day I was born and then he was transferred out and never looked back. I guess my mom and I were good enough when he was here and nothing else was available but not good enough to take home to mom. Oddly enough my Grandfather was also military and he divorced my Grandmother when my Mom was only three. I guess that he thought the divorce meant that he had divorced his children too because neither my Grandmother my Uncle or my Mom ever heard from him again. To make matters worse my mom latter married another military man. He was in Desert Storm. There he was exposed to some chemical. I do not know what it was as I was only eight. The end result is he was released from the military. After this He took my Mom and I to live in Tennessee. His family did not like me because I was strange. The blacks did not like me because I was high yellow as they put it. The whites did not even talk to me. They did not however stop from calling me names. I was a stupid Mexican,a f…ing Saudi or Iraqi and sometimes nigger. My only friend was the one Hawaiian girl who happened to be in the same school. My Step Dad never worked and we never saw any of his military pension. My mom had to work 12 hour shifts 7 days a week to support me and later my 2 brothers. When she wasn’t home the abuse began. I ran out of excuses to explain the burses on my body or worse yet the hickies on my neck. So I was a very angry child. I had to blame that anger on someone. I blamed myself I figured I must have been worthless if even my own father hated me. I also hated the military for making men turn into animals and pedophiles. When my Mother finally realized what was going on and brought us back to Oahu five years later I wanted to kiss the ground. I was never so happy to be home. Since becoming an adult I have traveled to other states such as Arizona, Nevada, California, Kentucky Georgia, North and South Carolinian. Although I loved all my vacations as an adult I found no evidence that there was any less prejudice in these states. The only difference was that I was an adult secure in who I was now. I ignored the idiots that stared at me and called me names and befriended those who didn’t.
The thing is I am not the only child in Hawaii who has been abandoned by their military parents. The military has a History here going back from WWII. That leaves for many angry children and later adults. However here in Hawaii you can’t truly be ethnocentric. You would be very isolated.. There are very few people who are pure anything. Every once in while someone does something that sets off that old hatred inside of you.How a person reacts to this is their choice. I was lucky I had a very strong support group here that helped me deal with my pain. They also helped me to learn not to react when someone does something that causes me to play the old tapes in my childhood. I know you are not to blame for what happened to me but when I will hear some military person complaining about how everything is backwards in Hawaii and how it is over populated with Asians and other Aliens, the very same things my Step Dad said,I want to tell all of you where to go. I don’t .I know better rudeness begets rudeness. Violence begets violence and anger begets anger.
When you say Hawaii is only a slum I can only say to you yes there are some slums here like any other state.(Although I have never been afraid to stick my head out of my apartment window here in Hawaii as I was in Tennessee because there was always gunfire.) There is also beauty and lots of love here if you look for it. If someone insults you ignore them the problem is theirs then not yours. Don’t assume that they are the norm just because they are the loudest. Perhaps like me they were burnt by the military but unlike me never allowed to heal. There is a lot of bad history with the military here. Many people here, Hawaiians as well as other ethnic groups here have been harmed buy greedy white men. Some people will never let that go just as to some whites across the U.S. I will always be a nigger. The Prejudice is no more and perhaps no less then any place else. There is a difference though it is directed mainly against white military. So when someone dose something stupid towards you remember where it comes from and step above it and don’t react. The quiet majority will respect you. You may be surprised to find they will even defend you if need be. I needed to understand that not all military are jerks like my Step Dad, Dad and Grandfather. Many people from Hawaii died fighting in the same military. In the same nature you need to look past the jerks and you will find people like me who don’t hate you. I know from reading the previous comments you made that you more than likely will only ridicule what I have said and how I have said it. If you have let your self get to the point where you can not see that not all of us hate you and in fact the majority of us would consider you a friend if you let us then perhaps this will help someone else who comes across this sight. Please do try to see past my flaws and see my good intent.T.K.

Comment by T.K Kamaina — March 26, 2009 @ 9:47 pm

Hi, I came across this blog entry and I agree with you. I found that the Aloha spirit is a well developed marketing campaign necessary for the survival of the tourism industry in Hawaii. However, people are rude, hypocritical, and the nothing is worth your money.
Hawaii is great if you are very rich and retired. In 3 years, I have seen lots of old farts with Asian arm candies desperate for a green card. But for the avarage is really hell. Wages are too low and cost of living too high. My husband is local and has to work three jobs and we barely make it. The locals know about these conditions but don;t have the guts to revolt. Instead they revolt against the Superferry, and local companies close overnite without giving any notice to their employees…that’s the Aloha spirit.
As far as the racial contrasts, I survived by pretending not to speak English; then I was given a break. However, it got me: locals hate the mainland, and yet they are proud of being Americans and a 50th state. They cannot stand the military and yet 25% of O’ahu belongs to the armed forces. The moral values are at street level and are outshadowed by money.

Comment by namihia — March 30, 2009 @ 11:42 pm

While I feel for the last commenter here, T.K. Kamaina, I don’t necessarily think the military turned these men they way they are. Pedophiles are every where, and it’s got nothing to do with being in the military. I am also a victim of sexual abuse when I was an 8 y.o. boy and the person was a family member and in no way was he in the military. Mind you I’m not excusing it, as I believe that pedophiles should be taken out back and shot in the head with no questions asked.

But I have to agree with just about everything this post is about. I’ve lived on Kauai for the last 5 1/2 years, I’m not in the military, just figured it’d be a great chance to live here, so I took it.
However now, I can’t stand it. I can’t stand the people. And I’m not making any references to race either. It’s more the way people live here. There is no sense of personal pride. So many drugs, so much corruption in the local government system. And what gets me even more is all these fucking christian fundamentalists that live on island that push their weight around but then turn around and go get smacked out.

It’s not the Hawaiian people that I dislike. It’s what everyone else that has migrated here has turned it in to. That includes the Whites, the Filipinos, the Chinese, the Japanese and so on & so forth. Along with them, they’ve brought their nasty ways of living. Their unfriendliness and their racism. Yes, racism exists here on Hawaii just as well as it does in the south. I keep feeling like maybe it’s only on Kauai, but I’m sure it’s like this on all other islands. While I’ve been to Ouahu a multitude of times, and once to Maui and the Big Island, I’d have to say that people were far friendlier on these other islands than they are here. So I’m taking a chance and moving to Honolulu pretty soon, and hoping for Waikiki. I just hope that my view of living there isn’t the exact one that Kauai has left me with. It’s like living in a third world country and it ain’t fuckin’ fun.

Comment by mb00 — March 31, 2009 @ 12:44 am

I have lived in Hawaii for a long time and there is a lot of truth to this blog. It is getting more run down with each passing year. I don’t give a shit about the racism really. However the conditions here are getting more and more third world.

Comment by lol — March 31, 2009 @ 1:03 am

Let me add that the main problems with Hawaii are the massive homeless community and the high population of low class races that live there. It is nice to have cultural diversity and all. However when a lot of those cultures are low classes of people it does not do great things for a particular area.

Comment by lol — March 31, 2009 @ 1:05 am

HAWAII SUCKS! Lived there 8 months, i agree totally with this blog. It’s like a bad episode of Jerry Springer.

Comment by awesome — March 31, 2009 @ 7:27 pm

Crystalattice and others who hate Hawaii,

I just want to know why you people make it sound as though Hawaii is the ONLY racist state in the US? I’ve lived and been to other states where the issue of racism is so rampant that people are committing crimes towards other people based solely on color of their skin so singling out Hawaii and making it sound as though it’s the most racist state in the US is just inaccurate.

I was born and raised in Hawaii. My mom is Filipino, my dad is white but I have tan skin so for obvious reasons, I’ve never experienced racism here in Hawaii the way a lot of whites do. However, I had the exact opposite experience when I went to parts of the mainland where the population are predominantly white. Because of my skin color I was discriminated against by a few bad apples even though I’m half white by ethnicity but I don’t go around saying all whites are racists. I just recognize that wherever you go, you will find this problem.

A lot of the posters here who say they hate Hawaii seem to do exactly that which they bitch and complain about, in that they call every single Hawaiian /locals as uneducated, lazy and stupid. Well let me tell you, that sounds racist to me, not to mention generalizing. Furthermore, not everyone who was born and raised in Hawaii are against white people or any other race for that matter. Perhaps the whites who are complaining about being discriminated against have lived most of their lives in predominantly white populated states and find it hard when they’re now the minority here. I guess you’re getting a taste of how the minorities who live in predominantly white states feel and have to put up with.

Speaking of “pidgin”, we speak this way when conversing with other locals. This alone does not make us “seem” uneducated and stupid. It’s just the way we speak with each other here. Contrary to what you think, a lot of us are capable of speaking proper English and some of us are educated and hold degrees so to base one’s education level on how they speak at home is ignorant in itself.

Lastly, not everyone in Hawaii is racist and against whites or any other race for that matter. However, based on your post and other’s posts, you folks make it sound like everyone is. Thanks for generalizing. With that said, I do agree with some points you’ve made, namely about our inept government system and sub-par public schools but then again, what state in the US doesn’t have this issue? Don’t bring down the people of Hawaii based on your experience with a few.

Comment by Sheila — April 2, 2009 @ 12:32 am

I never read all everybody comments. I only read the poster’s comments. All I have to say is “You are not that bright!” Perhaps you are one of the most ignorant SM I have ever met. I asume you are in the military. Well guess what, I am to, so hear is your first person who enjoys staying here, and you want to know something, im local to, yes punk, Hawaiian, and I speak english fine.

You want to know what your problem is? You dont do the research for the things you think. Try to do the research about the history of Hawaii, and find out why the first white people where worshiped first as Gods and lied, and how Hawaii became a state, the real reason why. You probably would have saved time reading, then to have to post all that non-sense you wrote. SO SORRY, SO STUPID, SUCH A LOSER. NO WONDER WHY YOU DONT LIKE IT HERE, YOU PROABLY TAKE LICKINS EVERYDAY, HAHAHHAHA, I WISH I COULD RUN INTO YOU. GO HOME THEN.

And for the people who say it is getting ran down, yeah, you kinda right on that. It is true, but that is far from the main complaints idiots have. Its amazing on how people comlain. Like Hawaii is its own country, o’ wait, hasnt Hawaii been trying to become its own again? Hmmmmmm? Maybe another thing people should research before running the mout!

Comment by Akiona-Ferris — April 5, 2009 @ 3:36 pm

I am an Anglo-American, from the mainland. My husband is Japanese-American, born and raised in Honolulu. We moved here 3 years ago, and are now preparing for a move back to the mainland. Because we didn’t research our move to the Big Island well enough, neither of us has been able to find adequate employment, and frankly, the medical and veterinary services available here, frighten us. After a huge expenditure, we have realized that we are not financially or temperamentally suited to living in Hawaii.
But I would like to address four issues raised in the initial essay, “Hawaii Sucks”. As the author is obviously white and racist, being myself a white person who has also failed to make the transition to permanence here, I think I have some valuable insights to share.

1.) HAWAII’S POLITICAL CLIMATE & CORRUPTION
Because of the geographic limitations of small islands, every resource is painfully finite, and because of shipping costs, there are few industries. Throughout the world, small, isolated, and agrarian communities are always the last to implement cultural and technological change. Montgomery, Alabama, rural Utah, and the Upper Peninsula of Michigan are every bit as frustratingly slow to update technology, accept new ideas, pass progressive legislation, and give newcomers equal opportunity at jobs as are Honolulu and Hilo. Political corruption is rife in any city government, but so far, Honolulu is still falling short of the high marks set by Chicago, New York, Salt Lake City, Montgomery, and Baton Rouge, to name a few.

Hawaii as an “island paradise” is an advertising myth, a ploy to get tourists to come here in a steady stream to create an industry that over decades, has been a financial bonanza for a few and a source of trickledown employment for many. “Hawaiian” imagery is as contrived as the sand regularly trucked into Waikiki Beach. The Disneyesque rewriting of Hawaii’s history and co-opting of the culture of its pacific island settlers that is sold as part of the same package, is nothing less than obscenity. But it’s no more phony than the romantic distortions of cowboy life Wyoming uses as tourist lure, or the revisionist lies told on restored southern plantations to make them appear to be something other than the hell holes of misery they were for millions of enslaved people. Tourism = Industry = Lies = Big Bucks.

2.) DISILLUSIONMENT WITH THE POPULAR IMAGE
Having bought into some of the tourist image and moved here, we gripe because we have been disillusioned. But just as with moving anywhere in the mainland 48, it’s our own presumption and lack of careful research that we have to blame. To move to an island is to paint yourself into a corner in every way possible, so you best spend a lot of extended time here and do a lot of research before you make the commitment. Every year at UH there are thousands of books published on every aspect of Hawaii’s past and present cultural dimensions. Perhaps our pre-move research only included socializing with white people, and reading only the books written by white people for white people…?

3.) RACISM IN HAWAII
As for claims about Hawaii’s “racism”, racism is woven through the fabric of American culture. (How could it be otherwise, when the first slaves where dragged here in 1619?) The luna’s whips, degrading plantation rules and segregation might be gone, but the attitudes and resentments still fester. And they will continue to do so, as long as white Americans don’t understand the nature of racism and refuse to cope with the side effects of the system that literally built Hawaii as it did the mainland 48—a system they still perch at the top of.

White Americans will naturally experience some prejudice in situations where they are not in the majority, but don’t worry, just as on the mainland, The System was rigged from the bottom up so that haoles will never be the victim of REAL racism and bigotry. When was the last time a white man got lynched in Honoka’a? (Look up The Lynching of Katsu Goto.)

What you’re experiencing here is NOT racism, it’s prejudice—you’re just NOT being shown the deference and given the preferential treatment you’ve been accustomed to all your life. So WHAT you don’t get always get the job you want here—take a number, and go to the back of the line like everyone else has had to do, in turn. Stop embarrassing the rest of haoles with your whining. Use this opportunity in life to earn acceptance and tolerance with good grace, and teach it to your children. You’re going to need it—the world is getting smaller and browner every day. What my husband and I will miss above all else in leaving Hawaii, is its totally tolerant and accepting racial climate. There is nothing that even comes close to it anywhere on the mainland.

4.) HAWAII’S RELATIONSHIP TO THE MILITARY
My husband and I view Hawaii as accommodating the US Military to an obscene extent. We see citizens and local businesses bending over backwards to support the US men and women in uniform who are killing citizens in other countries for simply defending THEIR freedom and THEIR way of life. And we know for a fact that the high schools in Hawaii are encouraging ROTC programs and allowing military recruiters free reign to bully and lie to entrap students desperate for access to college education into signing 8-year contracts misrepresented as 4-year hitches.

Each of these 4 issues is interrelated. Each is a matter of whether or not you can think outside of your privileged position, put yourself in someone else’s shoes, and say, “How would I feel if someone had treated me this way?” “How would I feel if someone did this to my country and to my family members?”
And then realize the problem is you.

Comment by Mary — April 6, 2009 @ 2:42 pm

mb00 O’ahu is no better…tons of strip bars, though, if you like. And Waikiki…oh, damn…that’s a ghetto in disguise.

Comment by namihia — April 7, 2009 @ 6:55 pm

I was 3 months on the Big Island (not my choice) and I hated it with passion. Junk and junkies all over the places, hoboes, bums and weirdos, locals have everything but the Aloha they are always bragging about, cockroaches there should be named as Hawaii State Bird, since they are enormous, all kinds of bugs, backwardness, extremely rude and careless locals, yet sanctimonious against the non-locals, abusive towards animals and children, ignorant, jerks. In short: DISGUSTING PLACE, DISGUSTING PEOPLE. I am so happy to be back to the Mainland!

Comment by Giusi — April 9, 2009 @ 1:02 pm

ugh, screw all u people putting down Hawaii&;us Hawaiians! I was born&;raised on Hawaii&; is 75% Hawaiian&;damn proud of it!! k, 1st of all, us “local” people ain’t the reason y Oahu is screwed up k? 2nd all the islands r different so no put down Hawaii if u neva been to all da islands! 3rd, if u have no idea y us locals speak pidgin, keep yur dumb— comments to yurself alright! 4th, yeah I know Hawaii isn’t paradise, but we didn’t say it was! u houles assume it is! so don’t get mad at us for yur assumtions! &; 5th dis is my home, my culture&; my ancestors u people r putting down, I no care if u guys r local because if u ain’t at least 50% Hawaiian den don’t call yurself Hawaiian/Local! just stop puttin down my home&; the way I speak&; the way I live, please.

Comment by ProudToBeHawaiian — April 16, 2009 @ 11:43 pm

Why should (or would) we stop putting down such a disgusting conglomoration of racist pigs that make up most of Hawaii? Get over yourselves, the image you paint in your minds of your “home” is freaking pathetic, and your entire social and economic structure brings up a feeling of disgust once people on the outside truly understand it. A community isn’t judged by the people who live in it, it’s judged by those around it. If it was judged by those within I’m sure we’d have a pretty different view of the Nazis and Commies.

Comment by pilotman — April 18, 2009 @ 9:34 am

i’m in the navy. i’m a submariner. life’s tough as shit being one, i’m very social.and when i picked my orders here, i thought totally wrong. i shouldve listened to my instructor.

its hard to socialize with any of the woman here, basically. most of think theyre too good for you, and if you’re not local, your shit. then
and yes, its fucked up for military here.

its elitist in waikiki. i’ve heard of better times from my much older relatives, and hawaii is pretty much exploited.

being originally hawaiian is a rarity here on oahu. i’ve met so many “locals” who are korean/ filipino/ samoan/ japanese/ or chinese/ or any combination of those ethnicities.. they still speak of whites as haolies even though i tell them they’re just as haoli.

its so bad here i though man, no one has a soul, or compassion, or kindness, or the time to reply back to a friendly gesture.

fuck complacency. there’s no decency. i have low expectations of people thanks to here, i’ve only met a few i’ve cared for.

a year and a half here…..if it wasn’t for my friends…i’d be depressed as hell..

Comment by Peter — April 18, 2009 @ 11:19 pm

this is the pacific hub of life

kind of like the pacific LAS VEGAS other than having no casinos…

Comment by Peter — April 18, 2009 @ 11:21 pm

Most everything mentioned about the negative aspects of HI, I agree with. I have been here 4 years and have seen the hatred/prejudice, uptight/unfriendly people, extremely poor, but expensive products and services (I dont think they understand the meaning of customer service), the trash and run-down houses.
Looking for a job is a major trauma. They usually dont even respond to your resume, no matter how qualified your are. If they do, you can tell almost immediately when they see a white face that you might as well turn around and walk away.
Just like other islands around the world, it is isolated. It appears a species of humans have evolved here (devolve, might be more appropriate) that dont understand certain basics like manners, honesty and kindness. Not to say all “locals” are low-lifes, but most are. The “aloha spirit” is truly a marketing illusion.
There are many more more beautiful, softer, kinder and more welcoming places to visit or vacation in the world.
Dont waste your time or money to visit this third world part of the
US of A. And if you do never go out alone, and always watch your back.
Everytime I go to the mainland to visit, I am struck by the differences.
People are friendly, kind and helpful most often on the mainland. I am sure the locals here do not get treated this way on the mainland when they either visit or move. Maybe if they were treated like they treat others they might get the message.
You can have your friggin islands, and believe me alot of mainlanders have heard the stories from friends and relatives.
Tourist dollars will dry up because of the accessability of the internet. I would say that 90% of the people who have come here on vacation or moved here that I talk to will never come back.
You local mokes can defend it all you want, but this is a pretty ugly place.

Comment by Audrey — April 19, 2009 @ 4:34 pm

Damn! ive been away from this blog and already people comparing hawaii to the Nazis! Then, a majority of the people on here complaining are navy? That makes sense. Im an Army Infantry/ Cav officer been in for 23 years, and about 10% of my friends didnt like the islands. Everybody else loves it. Infantry that is. I dont know about the rest of you, but you probably need some communication skills. Then i hear you complain about being there for 1 to 4 years? damn! Its gotten that bad? is it that serious? I laughed my ass off when the last person talked about customer service and kind and friendly people…YEAH RIGHT! What planet are you from? as a matter of fact tell me which part of the US are you talking about? It just excites me when i read all the racist comments on here. Especialy those that say its an ugly place. have you been to el paso? now that is an un nice…i dont want to say ugly, but it got a lot of dust and it looks like iraq with a shit load of malls. You can complain all you want, but until you give all of us locals someplace to compare our island home to, and certain things like say how you get treated at the gas pump there at your home town, as compared to hawaii, then you will only sound like a compainin punk! there, i said it…PUNK!

Comment by hawaiian local — April 22, 2009 @ 4:23 pm

one more important thing, grow some balls and let people know when they are pissing you off. if youre too afraid then call the police. if they are not available, then call a samoan local to handle the problem for you. most of the hate on here comes from being afraid to tell locals to their face that they are doing something wrong. Try it and youll see that your better off. youll make friends and not have to suppress the hate. good luck and keep trying

Comment by hawaiian local — April 22, 2009 @ 4:39 pm

Oh yeah, one of the reasons audrey that you talk of the Mainland as better is because its bigger and when you get mistreated or someone doesnt look at you right, you can run to another state! i bet thats the same with all you other racists. Even you pilot man!!!and mhm, all racists to the 1120th power. we locals have the guts to live together on that little island. Sorry you dont have anything but cowardice in your punk asses.

Comment by hawaiian local — April 22, 2009 @ 4:54 pm

*sigh*…I came back on this blog for some therapeutic medicine to help me deal with my disgust for Hawaii again…I was born and raised here so I know exactly how things are and have changed over the years-however, the low class, crass, disgusting, third world country atmosphere of Hawaii is alive and well as it always was. I really wish I could move to the mainland, specifically the Pac NW. Every time I think of it I feel “homesick” because that place brings out the BEST in me, while this place brings out the WORST. Well, I’m just not happy being in this environment…it’s so sub-standard. Yes, people on the mainland, in the vast majority of places I’ve been to, are much more decent and polite and have a better concept of self-dignity without acting like a jerk or tita. This place is not mentally stimulating enough for me…so slooowwww minded and lacks originality. To live decent you have to make a lot of money and then you can’t even enjoy your time off because you’re so tired from working 2-3 jobs. Fortunately my husband and I make a decent living w/o having to work 2 jobs each but we could be living so much better on the mainland around much better surroundings and people…I even hesitate going up to visit my sister in OR this summer because I think I’ll come back depressed like I was last time I visited…lol…I actually cried while golfing on a beautiful day because I missed the Pac NW so much and was repulsed coming back here seeing the huge difference structurally, economically, and ethically. It helps to read the blogs of people who also see the difference and know what I’m talking about…and yep, the local mokes who defend this place are of that mentality that enables this place to be the way it is…they won’t get it, and fine-they should stay here and never appreciate the difference. For now, we need to stay here because of financial reasons, but hopefully someday we can move out of here…I’ll be so much happier and less stressed…oh, and yes, customer service here sucks..seems people don’t feel the need to do their job well and resent having to work so they just go through the motions instead of taking the high road and having good business and social standards. It almost seems like the locals approach everything as being a “problem” and are grumpy all the time, or just have a sassy attitude about everything…so fucked up. This is why I don’t socialize at all with people here and keep to myself and my family, unlike the mainland where I am much more comfortable. In the Pac NW you find really polite people who are very helpful and treat you like a human being, rather than a threat. I know other people who’ve been around the world like I have understand the difference I’m speaking of, but the locals won’t because they’ve not seen much else but this place. Just trying to make the most of it while we’re here, but Pac NW is my home…I miss it.

Comment by relieved — April 24, 2009 @ 11:34 am

yes. i agree
ive lived here all my life
ever since i was born
and all the haole people think its paradise
and its perfect, with no stress
yeah, reality check
hawaii SUCKS.
the native hawaiian land is being destroyed along with all of the native animals.
we need to do something about this. [like sustainability]
other wise MY culture and many other people’s culture could just disappear.

Comment by straight up from 808 state — April 25, 2009 @ 3:11 pm

what really cracks me up is the tourist industry here is constantly asking “what can we do to entice visitors here?” maybe get rid of the vagrants!!!!how many letters to the editors in the local papers does it take. how about cleaning up this place. someone in a van just moved across from our park today and the cops just drive by…disgusting.
and this weekend, some brave hawaiian hunters killed a blind pet pig.
this is the mentality of hawaii. pray for me, 5 more years.

Comment by kls — April 28, 2009 @ 4:02 am

As a recent new resident of the State of Hawaii, I’ll admit to having the same experiences as others in this thread. I moved here roughly two months ago and was taken by the natural beauty of the place. Then, as the job search, and settling in progressed, Hawaii’s true image came to light.

Yes. I experienced racism from prospective employers. Yes. I’ve experienced rude, crass behavior from “native” Hawaiians. And, Yes. Hawaii does indeed possess an infrastructure and urban developments most akin to “Third World” localities.

I certainly won’t say Hawaii is the worst place in the US, much less the world. However, they shouldn’t portray it as some Paradise, which it certainly isn’t.

And the whole, “Aloha Spirit” thing is complete rubbish. I’ve seen nothing of the sort other than from paid locals who are catering to tourists.

Comment by kuro — April 29, 2009 @ 7:11 pm

Yeah, I’ve been in Oahu for 3 years now and I have the island fever big time. Although I have met plenty of nice people here, I feel like I stick out like a sore thumb - white, military and from the mainland. I just feel really isolated here and I look forward to heading back home when my time in the service is over. BTW, I miss cold weather.

Comment by squid — May 1, 2009 @ 7:45 pm

Yeah, I lived in Hawaii for four years. Four long, long years.

I had a lot of experiences while I was there, and sadly, I can’t look too fondly on them. First off, I will try to generalize as little as possible when I rant.

So the first thing I notice is the pidgeon. Honestly, I don’t mind pidgeon. It’s really annoying sounding, but it’s a pidgeon. It’s a seperate thing from from standard American English. Maybe I just let it slide because I’m from a part in the South where there are several creoles and pidgeons.

Also, “haole” doesn’t bother me. It’s not technically a racist slur, but it’s often used like one…but who really cares? Not once was I offended to be called a haole. I’ve never taken offense to being called a cracker or anything else. Plus it’s the Hawaiin language. That language is basically dead, and fourteen out of fifteen Hawaiians can’t do more than sing a Brudda Iz song in Hawaiin.

My biggest gripe with Oahu is laziness. Jesus Christ, could people care any less about doing their job well? How can you take no pride whatsoever in what you do? I’m generalizing, and it’s unfair, but c’mon. As a matter of fact, I left Oahu a year ago and Hawaiin Telcom repeatedly sends me bills at random months; I’ve gotten seven in the last 12 months. Calls to the Better Business Bureau are a waste of time, just in case you ever decide to try.

The education system is so far beyond laughable it’s just plain sad. I worked with one woman who had never heard of the Civil War. I realize that the Civil War is something I have to hear about all the time since I’m from Georgia, and other people don’t have to think about it as much, but NEVER HEARING OF IT AT ALL? Inexcusable. Sure, they’re sure to teach a Hawaiian history class every year, but the most crucial moments of mainland history are merely an afterthought.

I could go on more and more…like July 4th, 2007…when a man was stabbed to death right outside my damn appartment in Ewa Beach. I had a goddamn bloodstain on the sidewalk for weeks. Or I could talk about how my car was stolen in Makaha (thought it might be my fault for buying an Acura Integra…) No, instead I’ll gripe one last time about this one pothole they had in Mililani. It was a small pothole when I first moved to Hawaii. By the time I left, it was so large that had a diameter of at least a foot and a half, went straight through the asphalt, and into the red dirt below. It was coned off, not filled in. Hell, it might still be there. Just as you pull into the mall in Mililani.

But the mall in Mililani does remind me, Hawaii certainly isn’t all bad. There are some great restaurants around there. I will probably never go back to Hawaii, if I can help it. But if I do, I will eat every meal at Curry House…or Kuru Kuru Sushi…or Phuket Thai…

Oh, and if you’ve not been to Hawaii yet, but will be soon…don’t go to Haleiwa after dark. Or Ewa. Or Wainae. Or Wahiawa.

Comment by AlHortmund — May 3, 2009 @ 9:13 pm

AlHortmund, actually waianae is probably safer after dark than waikiki
see the locals go into to town to rob. of course NOTHING is safe after dark here. don’t even think of trying to walk on the beach before the sun is fully up. if it’s not the pitbulls, the needles, the tarps you can bet some idiot will be peering up at you from under some scrub bush
pray for me…5 more years.

Comment by kls — May 4, 2009 @ 8:47 pm

This is the writing of a professor at the University of Hawaii at Manoa by the name of Haunani-Kay Trask:
“Rascist White Women”
I could kick
Your face, puncture
Both eyes,
You deserve this kind
Of violence.
No more vicious
Tongues, obscene
Lies.
Just a knife
Slitting your tight
Little heart.
For all my people
Under your feet
For all those years
Lived smug and wealthy
Off our land
Parasite arrogant
A fist
In your painted
Mouth, thick
With money
And piety.
This is the mindset, this is the violence, this is a call to kill people because of the color of their skin.
This is Hawaii, a true representation of what this island is really like.
Pray for us, who for now are stuck here, and cannot leave.

Comment by faye mac — May 5, 2009 @ 9:34 am

Kick Hawaii out of the union NOW!

Comment by LibsRLosers — May 11, 2009 @ 1:44 pm

you know I’m far from racist my wife is white but you gotta admit that in the past white people pretty much screwed everybody. I believe in the art of war and all but to complain is just not valid to me. I would never want there to be a world without white people as a matter of fact some of the best people I’ve ever met were white and they’ll probably tell you the same thing (about whites screwing everybody). People are just racist wherever they can get away with it. white people in all white towns, black people in all black towns etc. there will always be racists, and I think thet it’s good that you experienced some kind of discrimination. To tell you the truth as a black guy from the ohio suburbs it makes you a stronger person when you are able to just brush it off and pay attention to what really matters.

Comment by exodus — May 19, 2009 @ 6:12 pm

Hey, exodus. That’s fine. The next time a black person complains about discrimination from white folks on the mainland, I guess we should just say, “I’m really glad you experienced this discrimination. It’s good for you and builds character.”, and leave it at that. No affirmative action. No court cases. No free millions in settlement money. We’ll be sure to tell that to Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson too.

Right… Bet that goes over well with the black community. Talk about hypocrisy.

And before you get too far with the “white people deserve this because they screwed everbody in the past” rationale (BS is a better term), consider that black Africans once “screwed everybody” in a large part of Europe and organized their own slave trade with Europeans as their “property” until Europe decided it had had enough and sent them packing. Europe has Charles a.k.a. “The Hammer” Martel and the Battle of Tours to thank for saving it from African/Muslim imperialism.

Not to mention that blacks still practice slavery in Sudan and still slaughter each other around the globe in far greater numbers than ever died at the hands of white people. Then of course, you had the Africans that sold their own “brothers” in Africa to Europeans as a way of eliminating rival tribes. Who screwed who? The only reason blacks didn’t do more damage to the world isn’t because they’re less inclined to oppress other races, but because they botched the chances they had. Same with Asians.

I’m sick and tired of hearing minorities in the U.S. moan and cry about how bad they have it here because of racist white people while they enjoy a better standard of living than pretty much anywhere Asians, Blacks, or Latinos “rule” the land. Then on top of that, they have the nerve to say white people “deserve it” when they complain of racism. This is especially true with regard to Hawaiian locals (any who aren’t white). If the Hawaiians and other minorities say “shut up and like it or get out”, then maybe it’s time they had the same thing said to them…

Comment by NotHawaiian&Glad — May 20, 2009 @ 4:05 pm

okay since you want to be an asshole (which is probably the reason why you don’t like hawaii) I can be an asshole too. Quit fucking crying you big fucking baby (lol) your an idiot and it shows in your ridiculously long and hostile response to what was an honest and subjective non-opinionated and humble statement trying to give whites the benefit of the doubt. No race has ever perpetrated any hostility worse than the slavery of the Africans, the sustained displacement of Native Americans, or The Holocaust. you can dig through your history on that one. Even the Egyptians who enslaved the Jews still let them practice their religion. And the reason why we have affirmative action and millions from court settlements is cuz we took it ASSHOLE (LOL) not cuz we asked for it. Its called the Art of War you should read it dick. And oh yeah since we have a Black president now (that’s from hawaii) currently were winning. Bet that will help instill a lot of character into you. loser.

Comment by exodus — May 21, 2009 @ 1:42 am

wow, he got you good…

Comment by liana — May 21, 2009 @ 1:48 am

Hahahahahahah. Oh, my look at the closet racist exodus blow his top! My my, I guess we put the lie to your “I’m far from racist” line. YOU ARE COMPLETELY RACIST. Yup, thought so. I could poke holes in the things you said all day, but I already achieved my purpose in exposing you.

Comment by NotHawaiian&Glad — May 21, 2009 @ 10:25 am

People like exodus and the lady who wrote “Racist White Woman” personify the problem of anti-white racism, not just in Hawaii, but on the mainland too. Whenever these types are confronted with their racist views, they invariably hurl abuse and condemn the entire white race while insisting they’re not at all racist. It never seems to occur to them just how racist they sound. It’s basically a sociopathic egocentric mindset with all the classic signs of brainwashing. This is why I think white people need to start drawing a line and holding non-white people accountable for their behavior. Ignore the screams and howls of racism that come flying back at you. Eventually they’ll have to deal with their issues…

Comment by NotHawaiian&Glad — May 21, 2009 @ 11:53 am

Man oh man..I hate it here I live in Hilo..Hawaii is slum with palm trees, basically ice heads everywhere and bums at every corner. I worked for a small company and when I showed up at 8am for my shift I was called all sorts of names when I went to the bosses about it they laughed and said “well haole boy you no like, you quit” So I did found another job then they had the balls to call me traitor when I told them good luck as I have more experience than every employee they had combined…

I know a restaurant delivery guy he told me that almost every restaurant is covered in roaches and wouldn’t pass a health test without the ample bribes they give the state workers…

This place is a toilet, illerite people who don’t speak english properly. I am from south america and I took pride in perfecting my english. But here it is a sign of arrogance to be well spoken..

All the time with “stupid haole” this and that. My wife who is also white has a 3.98gpa and she can’t get scholarships here..But Hawaiians who can “almost” spell they’re own name get a full ride..
This place ia a sh*t hole and I am counting down the days till I leave..

If you are thinking of moving here I highly recommend you take 2 weeks and avoid all touristy places go to the neighborhoods and see the slums for yourself..I should have done this and have regretted my choice ever since..

Comment by JudgeDredd — May 22, 2009 @ 12:37 am

BTW for those of you who are upset at my comments…
No need to cry just 6 more days and I am out of here…

So crack open the spam and have a party…
I will when I get back to the mainland…

Comment by JudgeDredd — May 22, 2009 @ 1:09 am

Hey nothawaiian. You didnt’ expose shit but that you are retarded. If you read my comment closely you’ll find that I said that my WIFE IS WHITE. (ring and all dickhead)Do you have any relatives that are black, by choice? I represent the very essence of not being racist faggot. actions speak louder than words and what I was getting at is that the non-racists are the ones who are winning. You weren’t trying to expose anybody you liar. Usually it’s the ones who like to call everyone else racist who are the ones who are racist themsleves. OH and notice you had no back up while liana said I got you good.

Comment by exodus — May 22, 2009 @ 7:54 am

I wonder what comeback he’ll try to make up next to look like he still has any credibilty. Probably “I have a lot of black friends” or “You could be just saying that your wife is white” or maybe “black guys marry white chicks to get back at white people” typical racist comments from a guy who probably voted George W. Bush.

Comment by exodus — May 22, 2009 @ 7:58 am

“This is why I think white people need to start drawing a line and holding non-white people accountable for their behavior.”

That is the most racist thing I have ever heard!!!
“Hey Billy lets get the boys together and get all them colored folks!” LOL!

Comment by liana — May 22, 2009 @ 8:17 am

You want to talk story, so let’s talk story.
I recently met a couple who moved to the east side of the Big Island ten years ago. Their blonde, blue-eyed daughter attended the public schools in Hilo. They recently moved back to the mainland and got their daughter into therapy because she was showing symptoms of severe psychological and mental distress. The doctor who is working with this young woman says the physical and emotion abuse she suffered as a “haole” in this perverted school system has caused her to have PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder) more severe than what he normally sees of people returning from Iraqi.
If the locals want their own nation, that is their right and we should let them have it. But if the Akaka Bill passes the senate and our illustrious president signs it, which he has stated he will then we should let Hawaii become their own nation and pull out completely. It amazes me that Obama who professes to be a constitutional lawyer would support a bill that clearly contradicts the Fourteenth Amendment. We should pull all federal funding that currently supports the over 160 programs designed to supposedly help the indigenous people. If they want apartheid, let them have it, but not as a state in a supposedly democratic nation.
We fought long and hard and many people died to protect our civil rights in the US. I refuse to live in or support a state that denies my right to employment because of the color of my skin, or the rights of my people to pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. These are the rights and laws of my nation.

Comment by faye mac — May 22, 2009 @ 8:28 am

WTF? What is wrong with liana and exodus? It’s obvious reading both your comments that you are on here to justify hatred of whites. He’s right - you people need to be taken to task when you act in aracist way. Quit acting like a couple of angry potty mouthed kids. exodus, i have to say you did sound very condescending up there toward white people!

Yes, Hawaii has all kinds of non caucasian racists and they get away with far too much. I can’t wait to leave myself. Never, and I repeat, never have I seen racism in my years in even the deep south that compares with the racism of these Hawaiian locals, at least on Oahu. Can’t speak for the rest of the islands, but don’t see why they’d be any different.

Comment by LTbanksUSN — May 22, 2009 @ 8:33 am

LTbanksUsn there IS justification for hatred of white people. There is justification for hatred of Black people. There is justification for hatred of every race or person for that matter. Nobody is beyond reproach. But the difference is do you make the conscious decision to maybe adopt a black child or a hispanic child or an indian child and give them your last name? how about marry outside of your race? That was completely skipped over by the racist nothawaiian, the fact that I married a white person. It wasn’t cuz she is white, she could have been hispanic. but it was my conscious choice to take a step to be anti racist because I Loved her more than my racial pride. We may not be accepted by our race now or any race for that matter, but people who are against racism will accept us and those are the ones I want to know.

Comment by exodus — May 22, 2009 @ 8:53 am

Hawaii is the most racist state we ever experienced, worse then any of the southern states. Racism is officially sanctioned in Hawaii and they are proud of it. Many of the racist look Hawaiian but they are not, Japanese, Hispanic, tanned white trash give you the “stink eye”, the type who got kicked out of the trailer parks on the mainland and nesting in Hawaii, place of no return.

Comment by Wolf — May 22, 2009 @ 1:59 pm

I’ve been on Oahu 7 years now, my parents are military and I have lived overseas and in 6 different states before the age of 25. I share some of this disgust for Hawaii and in other ways I love it here.

As a haole transplant I think what is the most difficult to deal with is:

1 The hypocrisy on race- My wife is local, most of my friends are local, I have worked everywhere from waikiki hotels to the city and county of honolulu and almost every day I hear a local person say a racially or ethnically charged thing that no white person could ever get away with saying. Despite the claim that everyone gets along and its all one happy family in the islands I hear people called fucking haoles, book-books, blahlahs, katonks, micros, soles, potagees, and mokes all over the place. At the same time I have had very few actual incidents with local people because of being white. Most racism is said under ones breath or accidentally in front of me and then quickly corrected with a “we dont mean you, just mainland kine haoles”… I really dont think it is malicious for the most part jsut part of the culture and a product of dealing with so many first generation immigrants in one place. Go to new york city, miami, los angeles, or boston and you will experience much of the same but it is still frustrating. And I dont care what any local person writes on here about it being an accepting culture… there is a dislike for outsiders that permeates the culture. Particularly haole ones. Im not judging whether it is justified or not, Im just stating the facts.

2 The bar is set too high - Hawaii is advertised as paradise and no place can live up to that billing. The weather and natural beauty are amazing, if I lived 200 years ago before heaters, air conditioners, and proper insulation I am sure that there would be no better place on earth. But it is 2009 now and we have all those things so the weather is only worth so much. The reality is that it is overcrowded, overpriced, and run down. Most local people work 2 or 3 jobs just to get by while outside investors own most of the nice land and developments. None of us sit on the beach sipping mai tais all day. We mostly work crappy service jobs for less than $10 an hour and have to kiss peoples asses for tips to get by.

3 Local vs Mainland - This is the one that absolutely drives me nuts. Everything is relative to local style and mainland style. Given that probably 90% of the people in hawaii have only been to seattle and vegas I have no idea how they are all experts on the “mainland” but every day I hear some crack about how mainland people are rude, or mainland people drive all nuts, or mainland people arent as nice, or mainland people dont care about their families as much as local people…wtf??? What does mainland even mean? There are 300million people in the united states and only 1 million of them live in hawaii so does that mean that the other 299 million people in the mainland all act the same, look the same, drive the same etc…? Miami is nothing like Minneapolis is nothing like Houston is nothing like Boston but every day I gotta listen to people spout off about the mainland and how hawaii is superior in every way. They even have started an annual Hawaii vs Mainland high school football game now, it is fucking ridiculous.

I dont want to sound all negative, there are some good sides and most of the people are nice ONCE you establish a personal relationship with them. It is a diverse place with great food, beautiful women, beautiful beaches, and great weather. It provides a unique opportunity, as a white person in america, to see what it feels like to be a “minority”. It makes me appreciate how my filipino, mexican, or black friends may have felt sometimes growing up.

If you moved there for work or on a whim and you hate it just leave. You dont need to be there and you arent helping anyone by being pissed off all the time. If you are in the military then that sucks for you because you really dont have any control over that. I thank you for your service and hope you can get new orders sometime soon.

Anyway, that is my 2cents. Hope it helps some of you. I dont hate it or love it here… it is OK in my book. Not as good as North Carolina or Virginia but not as crappy as Massachusetts or Missouri. It is nice to get some of those gripes off my chest. haha

Comment by 808transplant — May 24, 2009 @ 9:11 pm

I left Hawaii in 2000 after living there for five years (non-military). After living in Guam for two years, Hawaii seemed like a welcome respite.
I would agree with most of the negative comments, but in all fairness anyone who offers an opinion from the “military” point of view is in a different class, and that should be taken into consideration when reading their comments. First of all, if you are making decent money, any place is a “good place”. With money, you can isolate yourself from the bad “elements” and for the most part, avoid the the things that the average person finds annoying. This rule applies anywhere you decide to live. If you don’t have a skill that brings in a good salary, you should probably stay where you are at. Otherwise, you will be posting negative comments on websites like this. Anyone who thinks Hawaii is a tourist postcard from the 1950’s complete with grass skirts, surfboards, and coconuts is an idiot. Honolulu is a city on an island (Oahu) that like anywhere else, has places that you should avoid, and has places that are safe. I lived in Kaneohe in a condo that I rented with a beautiful view of Kaneohe Bay. I can’t say how things are there now, but back then I didn’t worry anything. Yes, I experienced some racism, that’s to be expected when you are white and you are a minority. Not to defend that type of behaviour, but after I lived there for about a year, I got along just fine with my coworkers. Sure, I still ran into idiots who caused me grief, but truthfully that’s just how it is, no matter where you live. I can give you an equal amount of “racism” stories that the “locals” in Hawaii told me they experienced when visiting Las Vegas. I guess it works both ways. For those looking for “inside” information, here it is. If you are in the military, then I can’t help you, as you are who you are. You are considered “transient”, so don’t expect anyone to “invest” in you. Also, there are some who came before you (in uniform), who really screwed things up, so don’t be suprised if you encounter some prejudice. By the way, I was once in the Navy, and if you want to discuss prejudice, how about Norfolk in the 70’s? Dog’s & sailors keep off the grass? If I was going to go back to Hawaii, here are the rules. First, make sure you can pull down a good salary because money can buy you isolation from the scum. Second, if you are going to live on Oahu, don’t live in a town that begins with the letter “W”. Third, if you are white, you should live on Maui, as this island has the majority of whites in Hawaii. Yes, I would agree that racism is an issue. Yes, I would agree that crime is an issue. What does that mean? Well, if you are going there because you have to, make the best of it. If you are thinking of going there as an escape, I wouldn’t unless you have a job lined up that pays at least 80-90K a year. One thing I noticed about Hawaii, they will accept you if you are a “haole” who walks to the tune of a different drum beat. What the posters on this message board fail to understand is that the “locals” in Hawaii have seen so many “mainland” types come and go over the years, they are not impressed. If you want to fit in, use common sense, avoid low lifes, keep a low profile, isolate yourself by living in an area with your “own kine”. As far as those who complain about “pidgin english”, dirty restaurants, racism, etc., etc. All I can tell you is that you have two choices in life no matter where you live. You’re either on top, or your on the bottom. That’s just how it works. All of that other crap is just part of it. If you are on the top, the crap don’t matter. If your on the bottom, the crap hit’s you harder. That’s a universal rule that applies to everyone, no matter where you live. Money talks, bullshit walks. Again, don’t tell me I don’t know what I’m saying. I was in the military at one time, and I also lived in numerous locations both overseas and in the mainland in the military and as a civilian. Truthfully? The military has their share of low lifes too. I’m not defending Hawaii, it has it’s bad points, but just don’t try to come across as a spokesperson for the military as if they are some type of water walkers. I can give you plenty of dirt on locations in the mainland U.S. too, starting with Florida? Talk about a pit………………..

Comment by Harry Bag — May 24, 2009 @ 11:15 pm

Don’t want to start a shit storm, but seriously you military types need a reality check. Nobody gives a damn that you or your family got sent somewhere. That’s between you and the man. Personally, after having been there and done that (at the age of seventeen), I finally realized what a con job the military is. Sorry if I don’t appear a flag waving patriot, I’m the other kind - I’m intelligent and think for myself. Sorry if that pisses you off. Hey, the only reason you probably made it to Hawaii is because your military “master” needed to fill a quota so some other idiot could make a profit. If you don’t understand that statement, then my point has been made, you are a naive idiot. Posting negative statements about Hawaii is a waste a time. What do you hope to accomplish? First of all, MOST (notice the emphasis on “most”) people that go to Hawaii, are either tourist or military. If you are tourist, you wouldn’t care about any of the “long term” concerns as you will only be here a week or two at the most. Yes, I agree they have to be concerned about getting ripped off, robbed, etc., but they don’t have to be concerned about anything else. So, that brings me back to this point, what do you hope to accomplish? If you got orders to Pearl, Hickham, wherever, may I suggest you just suck it up? Like I said, nobody cares about you living in Hawaii. You just don’t matter as you are a welfare case of Uncle Sam. If you had to do it on your own, you and I both know you could never afford it. When you want to impress me, do it like I did, I spent my own money.

Comment by Harry Bag — May 25, 2009 @ 1:38 am

It’s sad but all of you people are right in your assumptions of this place. Small island, reverse-racism, most mainlanders only stay for 2-3 years before they get sick of this place. All places have their good and bad points, in this place it is amplified because it is so small. I have to agree that the millionaires don’t have this problem because they can live in an area isolated from the less desireables.

I have to admit though that the military and tourism is what keeps the islands going, without either the island economy would be in the shithole. I have a lot of respect for the men serving the country and I’m one of those who benefits from the military people coming here to work and spend their money.

I have to apologize for all the dirtbags here that make it hard to see the good in the islands but it is there, you just have to look for it. But if anything, at least now you know what being a minority feels like.

Comment by mike — May 25, 2009 @ 9:12 am

I REALIZE THE PEOPLE HAVE FOUGHT FOR WHAT LITTLE THEY HAVE, AND NO NEWCOMER WILL TAKE IT. FINE, NO ONE WANT’S ANYTHING FROM YOU?? I’M ATTRACTIVE…HE HE.. AND IF YOUR JEALOUS DEAL WITH IT. I WASN’T BORN HERE, BUT LIVED HERE FIVE YEARS. I don’t want what you have, and I will never change for you!! THE ONLY REASON I LIVE HERE IS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE THE BEAUTY. WHEN THE LOCALS WAKE UP, AND REALIZE THEY HAVE TO SHARE THIS PLACE, THEN I WILL BELIEVE IN THE KAUAI PEOPLE. BUT, THEY HAVE A DEEP HATE TOWARDS WHITES AND ANY NEWCOMER. I KNOW IT WILL NEVER CHANGE FOR THEM. THEY PROVE THAT IN THEIR ACTIONS. TAIL GATING, MEAN, EVIL, JEALOUSY…… SAD, SAD, SAD. GET OFF THE ISLAND SOMEDAY, AND SEE THE WORLD who is not afraid to SHARE WITH ALL. SHARING IS A GIFT FROM GOD!! MAYBE THAT’S THE PROBLEM~

HATE IS FROM SATIN…LOVE IS FROM OUR GOD… ALOHA COMES FROM A TRUE LOVE FOR ALL PEOPLE. NOT JUST LOCALS AND THERE FAMILIES ONLY… I CAME HERE BECAUSE I THOUGHT ALOHA CAME FROM THE HAWAIIANS, BUT FINDING IT MIGHT JUST BE ABOUT TOURISTS AND WHAT MONEY THEY HAVE?? OK, I’M SURE THIS IS NOT ALL TRUE, AND I NEED TO RISE TO THE LOVE OF IT ALL. BUT, EXPERIENCING THIS HATE FOR WHITES ON THIS ISLAND IS SICKENING WAY TO BE. GROW UP KAUAI….IT’S NOT ALL ABOUT YOU AND YOURS. BABY BOOMERS ARE COMING, SO YOU WILL NEED TO GIVE THE LOVE OR MOVE OVER AND SHARE. STING, STING, STING….. HUMMMM CAN YOU HANDLE THAT>>>>DOUBLT IT. GOD BLESS YOU WITH ANY SMILES…..LUV TO YOU AND YOURS.

Comment by KIM LAND — May 25, 2009 @ 10:43 pm

yes, I’m leaving this hateful place. Aloha spirit comes from the tourists dollars. I will tell the world about the false truths that live here. Hawaiians or locals hate newcomers, WHITES, and don’t believe their lies in a hawaiian love for all. It’s only about them and theirs!!! They HATE YOU!!! If your cute!! EXTREMELY JEALOUS OF YOU…… I say to them kiss our WHITE ASSES!

Comment by KIM LAND — May 25, 2009 @ 11:04 pm

If the people of Hawaii ever realize that the we have been moving towards a global, integrated society, they may be able to compete and therefore succeed in solving some of their societal and environmental problems. By wanting to stay separate and apart, they jeopardize their future and that of their children.
It makes no sense to me!
Rascism will probably always exist to some degree, but it will always be wrong.
I am so glad that we will have a Latina on the Supreme Court and as a nation we are continuing to progress, to understand that we are equal and unique. Most people on the mainland understand that the hispanic community is an important and integral part of American society. We need them as much as they need us. Maybe someday the people of Hawaii will embrace all people, but after living here for four years, I feel it will be a long time coming, and that the only people who will really suffer are the Hawaiins.

Comment by Citizen — May 27, 2009 @ 11:05 am

Hawaii isn’t paradise, and the mainland isn’t tha shit either. We would like to take our land back, but we can’t, this is why we walk around salty. They’re building so much houses for YOU guys, so there’s more people, and more traffic, it pisses us off. It’s not like we hate haoles, it’s a term we use for white people. We know it means foreigners and yadayadayada, but we tink haole is better (= We know because of you guys, our island would be nothing, and we’ll be a third world country -blahblahblah- we’re just irritated at the fact you guys walk around ackin up, that’s why we ack dumb. I, personally, tink haoles are down ass people, just not all of them. There’s this one girl, straight outta california, cool girl. I was cuu wid her. Blonde hair, blue eyes, white skin, HAOLE. We cruised, talked stories, and about my hanabada days. Then she starts talkin shit, I was about to pound her face and dig my knee in her gut fast kine, but I neva cos I can. Like I said, not all haoles are cuu, that’s why we’re assholes to them as soon as we meet them. It’s basically stereotyping. You do it to us, we do it to you, simple. I have been living in Hawaii for ALL my life, and never left. I do think it’s getting boring, but it’s my home. I respect it, and from perspective, I think it’s beautiful no matter how many flaws it has. Alot of places is like this island, you don’t have to like it. It’s your fault for coming here in the first place (non-military). I dislike the fact that you guys tink us “locas” are stupid people. Just because we lack of english language, doesn’t mean we don’t understand. Not all locals are the same yeeekno. Aloha spirit comes from the love of our hearts, and if we don’t love you, oh well. You don’t love us either, oh well. We’re all from the same place- UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Why are we arguing? Not everybody respects one another, this doesn’t have to be a big issue. “Stop criticizing, love and respect eachother and the world will be a better place” -0ne l0ve.

Comment by MissAloha — May 28, 2009 @ 9:23 am

Miss Aloha Your statement “Aloha spirit comes from the love in our hearts, and if we don’t love you, oh well”, is an oxymoron (look it up). In fact your whole diatribe is one continuous oxymoron.
You epitomize (look it up) what we are talking about. If you don’t understand something or agree with someone’s point of view, you violently lash out “pound her face and dig my knee in her gut”.
If you don’t want us to think you are dumb, ignorant, and violent then stop acting that way.
If anything you are an interesting breed and should be scientifically studied to see what went wrong!

Comment by Citizen — May 28, 2009 @ 11:38 am

I don’t need to look up shit, wise ass. We are dumb, we are ignorant, and violent, we do dislike haoles, we do speak like we’re not smart. Can’t you except bullshit like that? Everybody has flaws, everybody has the things that irritate them, like how you’re probably irritated with me right now. And OF COURSE I didn’t agree with what that person said, i’m sure nobody takes shit from anybody, and I sure don’t. That’s what I wanted to do, but I neva. I have class and I don’t point out peoples wrongs. And you tell me how my statement is an oxymoron, i’m dumb, sorry, I don’t really understand..

Comment by MissAloha — May 28, 2009 @ 1:13 pm

Miss Aloha…Okay you are right, I was being a wise ass and I am sorry.
I admire you in your ability to admit your flaws and to be honest about not understanding. You have proven that you are a good person in your heart.
I wish I knew the exact right thing to say to help you understand how I feel too.
I hope you can understand that I want the best for you and for the state of Hawaii. I want you to stand up for your rights and for the rights of your children.
It is time to be angry and fight. Fight for your right to get a decent education, fight for your right to have your tax dollars go to improve your whole state, not just the tourist areas. Fight for your right to make a decent living without having to work two or three jobs to do so.
Fight for your right to have your elected officials build the needed roads and infrastructure that is needed.
Blaming the white man for the wrongs of the past, is a dead end street. The future of Hawaii is in your hands.
I have faith that if people like you stand up, there will be change in Hawaii.

Comment by Citizen — May 28, 2009 @ 3:11 pm

I really hope you were sincere saying that.

Comment by MissAloha — May 28, 2009 @ 3:24 pm

I hope the Hawaiian culture and people fade into history and are forgotten forever. once i had sympathy for them until i realized what a racist, backward, pathetic group they really are. maybe one or two here and there are OK, but mostly they will continue to carry on a mentality of hate for “haoles” anywhere and everywhere and then are too cowardly to own up to their behavior when they’re cornered about it. they wonder why white people don’t show much respect for their culture, but they show nothing but scorn for the many cultures of Europeans. we are all just one big white blob for them to hate on.

and please, i have seen this culture up close. it has some nice things about it but it really is not that much of a “culture”. this is why the world really isn’t impressed enough to “save” it. save the land, fine, but the culture…no big loss to mankind. goodbye and good riddance to a stoneage way of life that deserves mediocrity and did much to bring such a fate upon itself.

Comment by AdiosHI — May 29, 2009 @ 10:25 am

Dear Miss Aloha…. I am being sincere. If we could only take all this negative energy that some seem to have for each other, and channel the energy into making constructive change for the people of Hawaii, we all would be so much better off.
I keep hearing that the government of Hawaii is corrupt. If this is really so, something needs to be done about it. If your elected officials are not representing you and taking care of all the people then all the people need to raise their voices.
I am a white woman, but I have a wonderful son-in-law who is a local Hawaiin man, and I have the most beautiful grandchildren in the whole world. My children now live on the mainland, but I would like them to have the same opportunities here in Hawaii, if they should ever chose to move back, as they would anywhere else in America.
I will leave Hawaii because I am tired of the hatred I see everyday, but Hawaii will always be in my heart and in the faces of my beautiful grandbabies.

Comment by Citizen — May 30, 2009 @ 8:29 am

Miss Aloha why you make stink? Go talk story with your moke!! Eh! Then go to zippy’s in your muumuu ask for one sausage pu pu so you can practice getting da kine in your okele! Dumb wahine from Waianae!!

Comment by Japanese Rice Dick — June 1, 2009 @ 1:36 pm

Waianae High recalls yearbooks containing racial slur.
POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, May 30, 2009

http://www.starbulletin.com/news/hawaiinews/20090530_waianae_high_recalls_yearbooks_containing_racial_slur.html

Hundreds of Waianae High School yearbooks are being recalled to replace a page with a photograph of what school officials call a “racially offensive” word spelled out in cards held by five students in the senior class on football field bleachers.

The photograph, with the racial N-word slur, was overlooked during a review of the publication, state education officials said.

“It was inadvertently missed,” said Lisa DeLong, the Nanakuli/Waianae Complex area superintendent.

DeLong said the photograph is being replaced with one that has been altered to eliminate the slur.

In classes yesterday, students with yearbooks were being asked to paste the revised page over the original page.

School Principal JoAnn Kumasaka said the publication of the photograph was unintentional and that the school offers its sincerest apologies.

“It is neither the policy nor practice of the Hawaii state Department of Education and Waianae High School to sanction this type of insensitive behavior toward African-Americans or any ethnic group,” she said. “It’s very unfortunate.”

Kumasaka said the letter cards were held by five students, including one student who had a card with two G’s, and the students with the cards were staggered up and down rows on bleachers among seniors holding other signs.

She said the yearbook’s student staffers usually do a good job of reviewing the pages and that the school yearbook has won awards in the past.

DeLong said the school is conducting an investigation and will take appropriate action, which could include suspension, denying walking privileges during graduation, and community service.

DeLong said the problem came to the school’s attention Wednesday, and formal letters recalling the yearbooks were sent to parents Thursday.

The yearbooks were distributed on May 22.

Waianae High has an estimated enrollment of 1,800 students in grades 9-12.

State education spokeswoman Sandra Goya said the recall because of a racially insensitive photograph was a first at Waianae High, but similar problems have occurred at a couple of other public schools.

Stickers were placed over a racially offensive caption in a yearbook at Kalaheo High School in 1997 and a racially offensive photograph at Castle High School in 1998, Goya said.

Comment by Hawaii Blows — June 1, 2009 @ 2:17 pm

I think it is extremely hilarious how people from the mainland like to twist the meaning of a word to claim it’s racist. The world haolie is not an inheritly racist word. It depends on the context that it is used. It would be like me thinking that when Hispanics use the term “Chino” to me is inheritly racist in any context. People on the mainland are so quick to call everyone a racist that the word begins to stray from its true meaning, which is when one group believes they are inherently superior to another.

Comment by BobbyS — June 3, 2009 @ 1:28 pm

no you aren’t right to say that, BobbyS. if the word “haole” carries negative connotations and associatons for the people it is used on and they find it offensive, that is what makes it a racial slur… so for a person who is not white to say, “oh that word is not racist” when they have not been on the receiving end of the abuse is pretty ignorant. also, the term “jap” is ONLY a shortened version of the word “Japanese”…..so why do the japanese americans scream and cry whenever it is used on them? “wetback” is ONLY a term orginally used to describe a migrant from south america who swam across the river rio grande to the u.s. but, mexicans consider it a racial slur and get all mad about that, right? see, these racial slurs can be reasoned and trivialized away by other races the same way the word haole is.

maybe now you understand why this word haole is offensive to white people in Hawaii?

Comment by AdiosHI — June 3, 2009 @ 8:19 pm

HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT TO ME ASSHOLE.
1. Don’t make like YOU moke, stupid.
2. Zippy’s don’t make sausage pu pu, WHAT THE FUCK?!
3. I’m not from waianae.

You don’t know me, bitch. So shut ya mouth!
Don’t make stupid assumptions like that, when you tryna ackk like you from here. “da kine in your okole”?! Are you serious? Shut up foo, you sound ridiculous.

Comment by MissAloha — June 8, 2009 @ 4:17 pm

THEY sound ridiculous? Are you stupid or just ignorant “MissAloha”? First of all, you are proving the point that Hawaiians are uneducated. Second, why do you talk like that? Do you think you are cool or that you are properly representing the Hawaiian community?

Comment by LOL — June 8, 2009 @ 9:13 pm

ive got lots of family on many of the islands and they all pretty much talk like missaloha.nice huh? absolutely the most disgusting people on the face of the earth,
i have no more respect for this tanned trash.

Comment by jeff thomas — June 11, 2009 @ 9:10 pm

FUCK HAWAII!! FUCK THE BIG ISLAND!! FUCK KAILUA-KONA!! FUCK KEALAKEHE HIGH!!! FUCK THE RETARDED MOKES!!

Comment by F@!kHawaii — June 12, 2009 @ 10:33 pm

someone has some anger lol but i totally agree with you. very nice. very nice indeed.

Comment by LOL — June 12, 2009 @ 11:06 pm

I find it ridiculous that people seem to have the need to equate all race relations to white and black relations in the mainland. White people were never slaves of Hawaiian/ Local people. Haole does not equal nigger. I hear how people from the mainland are constantly offended by hearing the term Hoale. It basically means white. Yes, if an angry local person comes up and says “fucking haole!” that’s offensive. But seriously, the people who are gob-smacked and horrendously offended by the existance of a local slang word for white people are completely ignorant of the cultural climate in Hawaii and are spoiled by the hyper political correct white guilt in the mainland.

And to make you feel less victimized, I’m a white person ( at least in appearances) who was born in Hawaii lived in here on and off. But other than the racism card people keep playing…I totally agree with the article!

Comment by Katherine — June 13, 2009 @ 8:55 pm

If haole was just a hawaiin word for a white person then I guess most whites would not have an issue, but couple the word with the hate toward the whites and it becomes much more than just a word.
Some locals do not want to admit that rascism is a huge issue here and others like Miss Aloha practically brag about it. Until the people of Hawaii admit there is racism in this state, there isnt any hope. You cant solve the problem if you dont want to face it, start educating your children and changing your attitude. But from what I read on this site and what I see here, your racist agenda is so much a part of your identity and culture that there appears to be little hope that the people of this state will evolve at all over the next few generations.
Yes there is racism everywhere, but here it is almost like a badge of honor, like your tatoos. It is politically correct to be a rascist in Hawaii. How sick.
I do not feel victimized by the word haole or the blatant racism here. I no longer feel sorry for the people of Hawaii for their ignorance and backward ways. I just hope that the low life racist locals are a dying breed and the world is spared another sub species such as this.

Comment by Citizen — June 15, 2009 @ 4:20 am

I can’t stand Haoles but I like Caucasian people. I am also a local Haole (Caucasian). Haoles are similar to what other Whites would consider White Trash! They want to be treated like Gold where ever they go and realize that when they live in Hawaii we don’t recognize “White Privilege. Just like there are Blacks and then there are “Nig”. The two are not the same. A Haole is a foreigner who is an “Ugly American who is culturally insensitive to other cultures. It is your attitude that locals despise the most along with your arrogance. A Haole normally can’t blend into local culture because they don’t want to be treated the same as a brown person they believe they are superior and so is their culture. (ethnocentric)

Comment by mike — June 15, 2009 @ 9:02 pm

I personally came to Hawaii with total awe and respect for the Hawaiins and their culture. If you read the other posts, so do alot of “caucasians” from the mainland. Personally after living here, I find the Japanese tourists to be alot more arrogant than what you call a “haole”. And your attitude and that of other locals that we have to “blend in” is as arrogant as you say the white people are. We are different people who have had a myraid of different experiences than that of the locals who have lived here all their lives. Why do you expect us to “blend in”. As long as we are respectful to others and respect the “aina” we have a right to be who we are and not be forced to live up to your expectations. You locals just don’t get it, we will respect you and give you the freedom to live as you wish, even if we do not necessarily agree with your lifestyle, but we should not have to be like you to “blend in”. Again, you just prove that the people of Hawaii do not want to accept diversity.
If the local people showed respect for the land and respect for others maybe they would get some respect in return. But those of us who are forced to live here, have seen a culture and a people who do not practice what they preach.

Comment by Citizen — June 15, 2009 @ 9:56 pm

ok. No. Haoles are not defined as what you have just said. “Haoles” are anything from a mainlander to just someone who is different in Hawaii. The Hawaiians have a word just for people who are different or who act different. That is their way of separating people. And no mike, you are so ignorant. I am from the mainland and I don’t want to “blend” into the local culture. Why the hell would I? Just because people don’t “blend” and are different, you think that they believe themselves superior to everyone else in Hawaii? Our attitude? You need a reality check mike, if you truly think that it’s the “haoles” who have the attitude. Hawaiians think that they could beat up the world. Every time they look at you, they give you the look of death and act like they are just so much better than everyone, not only the tourists, but the people that live in Hawaii too. Hawaiians have got to be thankful to the tourists because without them, lol, they just wouldn’t know how to survive. Yes, some Hawaiians know how to open a coconut and make a bowl out of a palm frond, but thats about it! lol. They need to start treating everyone just with more respect because it’s so disgusting and embarrassing to the rest of us that live here. It’s humiliating to tell people that I live here. Good thing I only have a few more months. Then I’m back to civilization! One more note: they don’t know how to raise kids either. I have never seen more teen/young adult mothers and fathers in my life. I saw this one girl with an infant and she had no idea how to hold it! She kept going through different positions with it, trying to make it stop crying. They also have to hit their kids for every little thing. A little boy fell into my car the other day, and his mother started hitting him continuously because of it. Mostly because she saw that I was still in the car.

Comment by LOL — June 15, 2009 @ 10:05 pm

If Hawaii is so racist then how would you smart ass Haoles explain why there are no hate groups here? (ZERO) Also when you say local you include me and most locals I know don’t hate Haoles they just have distrust that is why they do not view themselves as racist, because most feel in order to be racist you have to hate. Locals are very loving people once you get into their Ohana. Call an ace an ace it is the Japanese who is in power here. Stop blaming the Hawaiians.

Comment by mike — June 16, 2009 @ 3:22 pm

yes, LOL is right. you listen to him. no hate groups? why, please, the whole hawaiian sovereignty movement is one big hate group. we saw them marching with their red shirts on and giving stinkeye to white people they passed everywhere. i dont understand why mike thinks hate is a necessary element of racism. no it is not, there can be racism without hate, but in hawaii it usually goes hand in hand. and you are still missing the point mike. whether there is a “hate group”, or an unorganized group of hateful individuals with racist attitudes doesn’t matter because the collective effect is felt by white residents and visitors alike.

we should wait until they form a “group” before we fight back? i think not. we should fight any injustice now and not wait for “locals” to face up two or three centuries later.

plus, when you say “how would you smart ass Haoles explain why there are no hate groups here”, it makes you sound just like the type of hawaiian local everybody’s talking about, but somehow you just dont seem to get it……

Comment by AdiosHI — June 17, 2009 @ 1:38 am

Look the school I went to had “Kill Haole day” Yeah 3 years of it but you know what I survived and I did not complain and run back to the mainland.
Mainly “Kill Haole day was psychological it was a day that you knew you could get beat up at school. Most Haole kids did not come to school on that day. (Last day of school). However my mom married a local guy and he told me how to handle myself. He insisted that I go to school and stand up to bullies yeah they threw water balloons at me but they were more surprised that I had the nerve and guts to even show up to school on that day. After that they left me alone and I became friends with many of them. When I grew up I had later found out that those same bullies were actually being abuse at home was kids. Bullies are mainly kids with family problems coming to school taking it out on other kids. This is want upsets me the most about a Haole who only had liveed on the Island a few years and never even went to school there. They come back to the mainland acting like they know everything about Hawaii and local culture and the truth is they were never apart of the culture because of that very attitude. It is not your skin color it is your Haole attitude. You are a minority group there so just get used to being treated like one. If you care so much about minorities being treated poorly than do something about it on the mainland. Now you see how Blacks must of felt in the Southern states in the 1950. Take a look at how you treat locals when they come to the mainland. Most of you treat them like Mexicans or Blacks depending upon the color of their skin or if they are foreigners. Then you come to Hawaii wanting people to not forget how you treated them on the mainland. Respect goes a long way and so does being humble on the Islands. Some of you don’t understand that you are behaving like an “Ugly American”. Then you have the nerve to tell me I don’t get it!!

OH did I mention there was also “Jap Slap day at school when Asian kid also get picked on. Do you see then complaining? What about some Black people some of then also get picked on do you see them complaining about Hawaii? You know why because those two groups have grown accustom to being a minority, not any surprise to them only a surprise to a Haole.

Comment by mike — June 17, 2009 @ 8:46 am

well, sorry mike, but i was born in hawaii and grew up there, so i am not just someone who ran away to the mainland, that was where my parents chose to live instead. i know what i’m talking about also. you say asians and blacks don’t complain about racism???????????

they are always complaining about racism, and here on the mainland people have to bend over backwards to defend themselves whenever a black, or asian, or hispanic uses the “r” word. no you cant say people dont complain here, or that whites dont try to be sensitive. we pay more attention to it than we propably should, to the point that every minority with a problem seems to think all they have to do is cry racism and like a baby they will get exactly what they want. in a lot of cases, there was no “racism” just a petty grudge from a loser who couldn’t cut it in society.

and look what rodney king got - millions of dollars, and nobody disuputes he was a drugged up punk who did a lot to instigate his own beating, but try telling that to black people.

the blacks in the 1950s? sixty years ago is a long time. well now this is the 21st century and a lot has been done to help black folks. so fair is fair. in hawaii it is time for the racists to pay their dues and start mending their ways. so far i see nothing like the positive responses (sometimes over-reacting) of mainland white people when a minority race individual complains of racism. i am very disappointed by the callous, indifferent reactions of most “people of color” i have been seeing on this topic here and in general.

Comment by AdiosHI — June 17, 2009 @ 9:52 am

Ok that is cool Sure they complain on the mainland no doubt but what I meant is that it holds a different weight on the islands if you know what I mean. As a new minority you just learn to accept that at times you might be discriminated against not saying that it make it right but that is the reality of being a minority. I was also born there and went to all public schools near Hawaiian homestead Papakolea. Fights every week at the local grave yard nearby. Glue sniffing was popular when I was in school and it really destroyed a lot of kids minds. You just have to learn survival skills. If you were born there then why don’t you have local friends? I don’t understand how you would feel closer to Haoles from the mainland if you were raised there. How would you know any difference? I did not find out about difference until I went to the mainland then people can’t telling me I was a White person I felt insulted being referred to as a White Person to be honest. Because I never view myself as a White person because there were very little White people where I grew up, mostly local people.

Comment by mike — June 17, 2009 @ 10:47 am

First off, I am a female AdiosHI. Anyways, mike. You said that they had a kill haole day and that you “did not complain and run back to the mainland”. Oh boy you have balls don’t you? Some of us aren’t complaining; we are just stating our opinion. And the people who leave Hawaii aren’t “running”; they got lucky and took the opportunity to better their lives. We all know that most times bullies are abused at home or abused in some way- we’ve seen it on Oprah. So BECAUSE someone is a minority they should GET USED to being treated like one? Are you insane mike? Or just plain stupid? No one should ever “get used” to being treated like a minority. And no way should they take that kind of abuse/discrimination either. I sure as hell don’t. And I won’t “get used” to it. And if people care so much about it we should change it on the mainland? In case you haven’t noticed, Mr. Harvard-Law-degree, it’s a problem in HAWAII, that’s why people are posting on this blog. Because it’s also a problem here. And yes, you are treated like Mexicans and African Americans because yes, your skin color unbelievably, DOES look like theirs. Are you following all of this? You also said that locals are very loving “once you get into their ohana”. hm. ok. So in order to get just an ounce of respect from a local I have to be accepted into their ohana first? Your kidding right? That seems almost impossible, seeing as how they only like their kind and respect their kind. Any outsiders are not welcome, you treat them like shit, and then on top of that, you feel like the world owes you so god damn much just because the whites took your land away who knows how long ago. Oh jesus, cry me a river and get over. You don’t see Native Americans complaining about their land that got taken away from them do you? No. They set up casinos instead. P.S. I have also never seen such astonishing racism and hate towards the Micronesian people as anything before. In class one day, a bunch of students just started openly ranting about Micronesian people and just outright insulting them. Many of the other students chimed in and said horrible things about Micronesians. The Hawaiians are complaining about people insulting them and saying shit about them. Give me a f#@$ing break. Hawaiians really have no idea. They just don’t have a clue. The sad thing is too, that, they will never learn or know.

Comment by LOL — June 18, 2009 @ 12:26 am

Ok first of all I am not Hawaiian so not sure what you mean about I feel like the world owe me something. I am a White minority born and raised there. You just agreed with me that many locals are treated like a Mexican or African American when they come to the mainland because of their skin color so it is ok for Haole to discriminate based on skin color and treat people differently because of the way they look but when it happens to a Haole it then a crime. The way Haoles treat people on the mainland affect all Caucasian people who just want to live on the Islands. I guess you don’t know many American Indians because the ones I met do complain about their land being taken away they just do it in another way. This is a better question what suggestion do you have to improve race relations?

Comment by mike — June 18, 2009 @ 8:46 am

just from my personal point of view and what i know of hawaiian history, the land was not exactly “taken” from hawaiians, they more or less were overtaken by more competitive races in a system where everyone could own private land, not just hawaiian royalty, but hawaiians, europeans and asians. i can not see how a group as small as the “hawaiians” could expect to maintain their island “race” when all around them is the great big “bigger world” full of much larger racial groups.

it just is not possible unless you turn hawaiians into a indangered species, put them on a fenced off island(s), control their breeding so that they do not overpopulate their island(s) and also control their “progress” so that they do not get too much of the “white mans” evil technology and system into their lives. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. they themselves would start to complain about being fenced off and forced to maintain their “old culture”. its absurd for hawaiians to expect this.

and mike, i am not sure where you live on the mainland. im not denying there is racism toward minorities here, however, mainland minorities also are guilty of more than their fair share of racism. never have i heard as many racist remarks among white people as i have from blacks and mexicans (usually about each other and whites). pound for pound and acre for acre, what i saw in hawaii all the time blows the mainland away for quantity and magnitude…im talking everyday…racism, violence.

i never saw so much racism from whites here on the mainland. no way. in hawaii its like its an accepted part of their “culture”. please…… sorry, not buying the racism of mainlanders drives the hawaiian locals racism theory. they mostly have themselves to blame. asians in particular, especially japanese can be extremely exclusive and racist in hawaii.

Comment by AdiosHI — June 18, 2009 @ 11:35 am

wow, this blog has become a headless beast! a creature made of all our hate and stress. i read all the messages from bottom to top and reached my message…i cant believe that i wrote all that hatefull shit man…i mean, my family and friends know me as a very friendly person that will stand up for those in need of help, and i felt like i helped feed the fire. i also read one of the messages with the poem by Trask, and man did my memory jolt the top of my head…(i dont know if this is the same woman) there was a woman with the name trask with a show on one of the independant channels full of hate towards not only white people, but people not of hawaiian blood. I remembered feeling disgusted by her shows and im thinking, i get why some of these people hate hawaii. then i read the locals messages and they are coming from whre i was, trying to defend the land that i love. the truth is, there will always be things that make you hate a place, wether youre local or not, but it depends on how you handle the situation. hopefully all of you that experienced negative things in hawaii, i pray that you find peace and happiness where ever you may be, and for the locals on here, i pray for the same thing as well. we need to work together to make hawaii a better place to live.

Comment by hawaiian local — June 18, 2009 @ 7:30 pm

I am staying in a rent house for the week on the Northshore as we speak. My opinion of Hawaii is all hype no real. The food is sloppy and old tasting, the roads are a joke, the locals are rude arrogant ill mannered people who seem to want to kill you with the “Hawaii stare”…

I can sum this entire deal up for you guys.

The mountains stretched across the pacific is truly a sight to see. The cities, people, and attractions are simply, as i said… a joke.

Honolulu is trash period. If the politicians here had any sense at all they would clean up the area around the airport so they can fool people into thinking its the “Hollywood Hawaii”.

As for the racism, the only thing I noticed is that they aren’t friendly at all, I haven’t been called any names but I have definitely recieved the cold shoulder trip more than once. I can’t sit here and say it’s a bad place alltogether, like I said the island itself is beautiful but the people and the culture just outright suck. Most islanders are obese, overly tanned and appear to all have seen better days.

If I ever came back it would have to be another island, this one is just overrated and overused. My advice to anyone reading this is if you plan on coming here stay away from Oahu!!!

Comment by Joshua — June 18, 2009 @ 7:41 pm

Right on to hawaiin local! If just one person can see the futility of the hate expressed here and the hate we see in our communities and neighborhoods, maybe there is a chance. Take what you have learned and when friends or family members make rascist remarks, say something. Be gentle and kind, but help them to understand that hate and rascism is wrong and hurtful to all the people.
This is equally true for us “foreigners/haoles”. Instead of being angry and hateful in response, turn it around somehow.
We can learn so much from each other if we can open our hearts and minds.
I pray that there is a movement in Hawaii by all the people. Instead of promoting apartheid and the rantings of Trask, demand that the children be educated in diversity and acceptance. Teach your children well because that is where the change and healing will begin.
Hawaii can be the paradise that the Big Guy planned from the very beginning.
God Bless You.

Comment by Citizen — June 19, 2009 @ 5:37 am

I think that the first step in dealing with racism no matter where you may live is to recognize it as a disease that can spread rapidly. If you hang around people who are racist then you might catch the disease and could spread it to others without even knowing it. In some way people can channel racism by being around other racist. Also there is no cure for racism only treatments, not all treatments have worked successfully either. (Example forced integration). Personally I think that racism should be listed as a mental disorder. The best method to deal with racism and not let it effect your daily lives is try to avoid it. If you have a friend that makes a racist joke, tell them right away that you thought it was not appreciated. Let them know where you are coming from. Also it is difficult to help anyone who is in denial about being a racist. and I honestly don’t think that a lot of locals feel they are racist by their definition. All groups of races can be racists that is just a fact. Also if you think that a local is a racist then avoid that person, now the places on the island where you are unwelcome. Trust me there are plenty of people on the Island that are cool

Comment by mike — June 19, 2009 @ 9:55 am

What’s nice about a webpage like this, is that it gives the victims a voice, a voice that can’t be suppressed. It’s about time Hawaii receives it’s due, instead of dishing it out. I don’t look at this as a race issue, rather I look at this as an “island issue”. To me, Hawaii has been sucking people dry for a long time with it’s bullshit “image” as a paradise. The truth? It’s not so much the Hawaiians that are racist, rather it’s the Heinz 57 variety of Japanese blood that quietly try’s to keep this place under “their thumb”. If you come here, beware. Japanese are by nature “backstabbers”. If you work with any of them here in Hawaii, know this - they will smile in your face, and stick it in your ass. It’s a given. Don’t try to fight it, just be aware of it.
Jealously abounds. It’s a survival thing. Anyone who comes here is a potential competitor. This community is very weak in the confidence department, and thus will try to take you down by backstabbing you. It’s easier to discredit you, then to compete one on one. They don’t have the skills to do that, seeing how they have live this sheltered life in this make believe island world. As far as “Hawaiians are concerned, I’m not sure if there really are any “Hawaiians”, per se. I think it is more like a group of “crackhead” Samoans, or Micronesians, or Mexicans (yes, even illegal Mexicans get here). This island chain has a large population of scum, so be forewarned nonetheless. Avoid places that are off the beaten path, don’t travel alone, and don’t visit communities on Oahu that begin with the letter “W”. That includes “Waikiki”, an over glorified “shithole”. See you dumb idiots, all your racist bullshit is coming back to haunt you. You pissed off visitors and others that came here, and now they are telling the world about you. Dumb ass crackheads. I can only hope and pray North Korea lobs a nuclear missile on you dumb ass wasabi breath fuckers. but won’t complain, afterall, those are some of your slant eye brothers. You know, “Da Kine”……………………………………

Comment by Don was a Hoe — June 23, 2009 @ 7:48 pm

I’m wondering if I could put an ad on craigslist and get Ms. Aloha to show up for a photo shoot. Didn’t you hear? This place has been given an economic stimulus package. It requires that the local “fortune cookies” give their own version of “stimulus”. In case you’re not aware, the number three employer (after the military and the hospitality industry) is the massage parlor, the strip club, the home porno movie, the local “calendar girl”, etc. Hey Miss Aloha, maybe you want to show us your tattoo’s? You know the pink one. It’s the “cowry shell” between da kine. I heard it’s a “sashimi” night pu pu special.
Just don’t stay out too late, da kine in Waianae no play games…..

Comment by Japanese Rice Dick — June 23, 2009 @ 8:14 pm

Want to know what to think of this place before your arrive? Just watch Dog the Bounty Hunter. The funny thing, is this dude don’t realize HE IS the side-show circus. Never mind da crackheads “Dog”, The Hawaiian Superman would tell ya straight up. I just wonder if Perry & Price are still hawking da kine on the airwaves. Know how to tell those two brothers apart? “Price” ryhmes with “Rice”, and “rice” is local brah. So da haole is Perry. Dog, your wahine, what’s up with dat? Where you pick her up at, the Dole plantation? One pineapple picker? Look like she smuggled the pineapples under da kine. Brah, I think you need to settle down, one corrugated tin house out on the Big Island. You want money brah? Plenty crackhouses need one blonde haole spread cheeks and sing along “brother iz” beyond da rainbow, just like your hair brah.

Comment by Dog Nut the Bounty Sucker — June 23, 2009 @ 8:53 pm

My name is God. That’s Dog spelled backwards. I am the Bounty Sucker.
Let me introduce you to my nephews or cousins, I’m not sure. Anyway, look at what they wear. Would you wear dat crap? Especially I ask, would you wear that crap if you were getting paid every week? Hey brah, every week. If you want real class, take the paycheck up to the Windward Mall, Ehhh??? Or if you want real class, maybe da kine, Kahala Mall. Just tell the cashier, you God, the Bounty Sucker. Maybe she lift her grass skirt and throw in one smell mo bettah. Nothing like a pink mu-mu covering up da kine. I take my “Don was a Ho” type of a wife over to the Big Island. We hang loose in Hilo. We shop for da kine real-estate, one tin shack. I listen to a CD on da kine, Brother Iz. Then I remember I am a haole, so I get da hell out of Paradise Park before I catch I crack pipe upside my head. If dat happen, then Brother Iz is wrong, it’s not a beautiful world. You get hit upside the head with a crack pipe, maybe you see Madam Pele and that lava shit real clear. Hawaii no kine paradise, one shithole brah. Brother Iz maybe was doing da kine. His type of rainbow maybe shaved ice or if you from Hilo, maybe just “ice”. Anyway, hope to catch Perry & Price on da kine. Hey brah, how come da kine “Perry” name is first? Why not call the show Price & Perry? I will tell you why. Cause the white master has infiltrated every aspect of the Hawaiian Islands including the coconut wireless. IT’S ALL THE WHITE MAN’S FAULT.

Comment by God, that's dog backwards — June 23, 2009 @ 10:39 pm

There is no racism in Hawaii, just witness the Perry & Price show on the radio. Of course if you notice, it’s not called the Price & Perry show. Perry being the haole, and Price being the local, cause he rhymes with “rice”. No, there is no racism in Hawaii, but the WHITE MASTER was good enough to give Perry top billing in Hawaii on the radio all of these years. Meanwhile, poor Price the Port-A-Gee (has been) who slobbers his words over the microphone and sounds like a dumb ass (just an opinion) is resigned to being a second string shoe shiner under a white man. Yes folks, it’s the evil white man who brought this all about. If I had my way, Dog Nut the Bounty Sucker & Perry would both be resigned to the Sand Island Waste Water Plant straining raw man logs through their teeth. And just to add some equality, I would have “diaper man” that Hawaiian singer who sings and plays the bongo’s in his underwear do a solo number while we watch (big middle finger).
Damn white man, this all his doing.

Comment by Port-A-Gee — June 23, 2009 @ 11:37 pm

I couldn’t spell his name from memory, so I did a google search. My (ex)girlfriend & I used to laugh because we referred to him as the “diaper man” when we lived in Kaneohe. I now remember his name, it is Keali’i Reichel. If I had my way, “diaper man” would be “pounding the gourd” (sounds like some type of masturbation) at every white man sponsored event on Oahu. Well, like I said in the previous post, I would have “diaper man” pounding the gourd while Dog Nut the Bounty Sucker & Perry strain human man logs through their teeth down at the Sand Island Crap Plant. Here’s a hot tip for you dwellers on Oahu. Most all of the people I have known, be they Chinese, Hawaiian, Japanese, Portuguese, whatever - are racist. Yes, even the locals are racist against some of the other local’s. In other word’s these flocker’s hate each other. But mostly, the Japanese think they are “numba won”. So, if you want to get over, play the game. When you get ready to leave the island, and you’re sure you will never come back, that’s when you piss on their lawn.
So until next time………………………………

Comment by Too many Beers — June 24, 2009 @ 12:27 am

Got a question for everyone on the blog. What would happen if a new species emerged on this planet that was either from human stock or evolved from a smart animal and this new species decided it did not like humans? Would any of you come together to fight it off or would you continue to bicker about your race and culture? By the way I am not talking about aliens I do not see any evidence that they exist. This is a hypothetical question by the way. Good Day To All Of You

Comment by Joe Parreira — June 24, 2009 @ 12:43 pm

LOL too many beers. piss on their lawn LOL

Comment by LOL — June 24, 2009 @ 10:43 pm

Too many beers said “In other word’s these flocker’s hate each other”.
I happen to agree. The reason why the Japanese is on top is because a lot of them have money if they did not I doubt they would be on top plus they are in the government and this is not the case on the mainland. In some ways Hawaii’s racism reminds me of Brazil where it is mainly about having a certain the right skin color (Beige) and your social class. If you are a middle class Caucasian living in Hawaii you are treated just as poorly as some of the other minority groups so you just have to learn how to play the game. On the mainland you can just have White skin and it has it advantages or privledges often over a persons social class depending upon the area. Hawaii is different Having White skin with out money can be a curse.

Comment by mike — June 25, 2009 @ 8:55 am

I’m just glad I’m not living “the dream” anymore. What dream? More like a nightmare. This place is like a fancy dinner in a restaurant. You walk in, and you are fooled by the decor. Next thing you know, you are served a plate of bullshit prepared by assholes, and it don’t taste no better than the cheap crap at the grocery store, but you end up paying more. To top it off, the waiter insults you, and steals your credit card information. Welcome to Hawaii. I piss on your lawn……………….

Comment by John Holmes Lawn Pisser — June 25, 2009 @ 10:01 pm

I’m thinking “Too many Beer’s” hit on something. What we need here in the islands is a “lawn pissing day” protest march. I personally can think of a few lawns I would like to piss on, starting at the “Iolania Palace”.

Comment by The Movement — June 25, 2009 @ 10:39 pm

Seems all the people complaining about Hawaii are white, and/or military. It figures.

Comment by Sass — June 28, 2009 @ 5:37 am

im not either actually bitch

Comment by LOL — June 28, 2009 @ 11:14 pm

“”"”"”Seems all the people complaining about Hawaii are white, and/or military. If figures”"”"”"

hey fuck you you condescending asshole, no make that “sasshole”. aloha bitch….dont bother replying nobody on here cares about your pinhead opinion except the other shitbags like you.

Comment by AdiosHI — June 30, 2009 @ 1:13 am

A good number of Hawaiians have problems with those not of their kind. I blame it on their pride and anger and feel as though they are waiting/ watching for non-locals to mess up. When those particular locals are placed in customer service positions, it seems as if he or she is angered more and this is especially the case if said person is serving those they despise. Customer service can prove baffling, like when a cashier attempts to act so above their position they won’t even look at you. There are also a lot of Asian people in Hawaii. Some Asian women have a look plastered on their face where they just couldn’t be more pleased with themselves. The douchebag military men that adore them just make things worse. Hawaii has problems and it all stems from people who think their shit don’t stink.

Comment by Aloha! — July 1, 2009 @ 1:39 pm

Ah , Hawaii is a great place. It may be Ghetto in some places but we are not Ghetto like L.A and New York and all those over populated shit holes. And do not diss the pidgin language you ignorant person , can you except the way people speak and GET A DAMN LIFE! If you knew Anything you would know that Pidgin has history and once had a very , very important purpose. You are probably a damn ugly grouchy white person who hates everything , my dad hates people like you. We are not perfect but we have good people and beautiful places. GO TO THE DAMN BIG ISLAND IF YOU WANT BEAUTY!!! If you hate it here , go back to Texas and have a redneck fest and watch NASCAR you Haole…. P.S Haole usually means White People who come here from the mainland and turn our little nice island into a grouchy over populated place. I’m white but I was born and raised here and live a Hawaiian life style , I’m NOT considered a haole. Get your facts straight before you accuse a place. … Idiot.

Comment by Maggie — July 4, 2009 @ 12:39 am

LOL. yea maggie we all know about stupid pidgin. they created it b/c when all the little plantation workers couldn’t communicate with one another they made up “pidgin” so they could talk to each other. blah blah whatever. LOL and you’re right, Hawaii isn’t like the ghetto in LA and New York. Frankly, I think Hawaii is much crappier and full of shit heads who think they are better than everyone they give stink eye to LOL. not all of us are from Texas, or are white, so when you try to insult a group of people, try to find a universal topic to get them on stupid. LOL. we turn your island into a grouchy overpopulated place? Please tell me your kidding. And by the way, you used the wrong “except”. It’s supposed to be “accept”. “can you ‘accept’ the way people speak… You do live a Hawaiian life style- you’re uneducated. And you have good people? Where are they all hiding? Your dad hates people like us? Oh my god, what are going to do with ourselves?! LOL You’re such a joke maggie, don’t even post here unless you got something worth while to say on this blog. LOL

Comment by LOL — July 5, 2009 @ 4:09 pm

maggie,

pidgin once might have had a “purpose” like you said, and that implies you dont think it has a purpose now. in that case i agree. as far as the rest of what you said goes, well, we all have heard that before, it’s the typical “local” attitude and as usual for such locals you have no clue whatsoever how racist and pompous you sound. that is the problem we are taking issue with on here and thank you for posting when you did because it helps prove the point.

but regardless, your comments still are absurd, childish (who cares who your DAD hates?) bigotted, racist, and idiotic, to put it politely. as much as im tempted i wont use harsher (coarser) language toward you because i think you probably are some kind of 4-year-old trapped in a 50 or 60-year-old lady’s body. i’d tell you to grow up but i know how hard that is for the racist locals of hawaii, so you stay in your part of the world and i am happy to stay away from hawaii. someday you will see the consequences of all this and people like me will be watching. we will see who has the last laugh…

Comment by AdiosHI — July 6, 2009 @ 12:58 am

Don’t worry, just let the economy continue to falter and we will see how much shiba these sand negro’s want to talk. I for one would have no objection against the locals going back to “their heritage”. Maybe they could start by paddling their dugout canoes on a long distance journey back to the “motherland”. P.S. take the rice eaters (Japanese) with you.
Truth of the matter is this, anywhere you go in the Pacific, it’s usually gets worse when there is NO WHITES. Take for example, Chuuk, or Pohnpei, or the Marshall Islands, etc., etc., Now take for example Guam, Saipan, or Hawaii. Anywhere you have a small or mid-size population of whites, the island is more developed and modern. The hell with political correctnesss, the darker the skin, the more ignorant the lifestyle.

Comment by Don was a Hoe — July 8, 2009 @ 3:06 pm

Everyone is definitely entitled to their opinions; however, when knowledge that some may think they have of another’s heritage, is looked upon with so much hate or disgust…the question in turn should be, “who’s the racist one?” I am very much a PROUD hawaiian and nothing will ever change that. I should also add that I am also proud of my american indian, filipino, puerto rican, japanese, english, irish, scottish, french, and german heritage. I can only imagine seeing the hate switch flick on in the inconsiderate people in this forum, but you know what, all ignorant responses will be seeing as such. One cannot judge when you haven’t walked in that person’s shoes.

As for the pidgin language, why does it ruffle so many feathers? Who does it hurt? History is history and nothing can erase that! To be honest, what gives anyone the right to say change who we are?! Or the right to say we have nothing to be angry about..Hawaii became a state 50 years ago and to most of us who have grandparents or parents that are still alive, who can tell us stories of the injustice…it is all still relatively fresh in our minds.

I don’t expect kind responses, but like an ‘un-educated Hawaiian’ I won’t understand them..right?!

Comment by OhMy — July 8, 2009 @ 3:36 pm

How can one be proud of their cultural pride when it all it contributes to is hate? Why shouldn’t we judge arrogant local Hawaiians when those very people do not take time to consider the person he or she are judging themselves? The other side of me feels for Hawaiians, though, because the people who flock here, and are not from here, are often douchebags military or douchebag Asian folk (or both.) It just seems like a constant cycle. For some reason, though, I feel as if there is a need to treat the obviously Hawaiian people respectfully because they do have history in Hawaii. It’s like the respect you would give the elderly- they’ve been here longer and that’s just how it is even if they are rude. I won’t do that for any other arrogant people in Hawaii- white, Asian, or whatever. For them it is just the ol’ classic- thinking their shit don’t stink.

Comment by Mahalo! — July 8, 2009 @ 4:05 pm

Mahalo!I think hate comes from any culture and should not determine the fate of the entire culture or race. I am a very open person to any color, gender, and race; so why, just because I am a proud Hawaiian, placed in a category of racists? All Hawaiians should not be persecuted because of someone’s ignorance…and I mean ignorance on everyone’s part. My grandfather is more than 50% hawaiian and is fair with green eyes, made a career in the military, and still remains proud of who he is. He has instilled that “Aloha Spirit”, that so many has said does not exist, in my brothers and I…even though he can recall some memories that should make him bitter.

You had mentioned, “Why shouldn’t we judge arrogant local Hawaiians when those very people do not take time to consider the person he or she are judging themselves?”, read some of the comments before yours…the claims were to Hawaiians and I’m just trying to clear that misconception up. And Mahalo Nui Loa for not putting all Hawaiians in that category.

Comment by OhMy — July 8, 2009 @ 4:21 pm

OhMy,

you say what gives anyone the “right to say change who we are”? who said that? maybe you should be more specific? like so many other locals on here it just goes right over your head when the complaint is about racist attitudes and/or violent behavior from locals. nobody is saying change your identity unless by identity you mean having the right to commit crimes and outrages against others based on their skin color. yeah, you bet that needs to change…

do locals have any “right” to inflict injustices on other people because of their own (false) feelings of victimhood? do they? because if you think they do you are all messed up in the head. we can also argue about history forever, but what it comes down to is this. there are two sides to the hawaii statehood story. one side can always say its a hundred percent right if it chooses to no matter what the facts. but i know enough of hawaiis past to say hawaiian locals and especially kanaka maoli cherry pick the parts of history that suit their agendas and “oh-woe-is-us” bitching and moaning. but they ignore the viewpoints of the people they despise and blame, which is an insult really. why should we tolerate hawaiians denegrating the u.s. and its history while demanding respect for theirs. forget it.

could it be the queen liliuokalani really was a supremely corrupt and incompetent ruler with an arrogance that made her laughed at and scorned in the end by americans? i think so. she got what she deserved.

and i’ll tell you who pidgin “hurts”. it hurts the image of the hawaiian locals. even foreigners who aren’t native english speakers but learn proper english will hear locals talk and think they sound like idiots. i know because i have heard a few of them discuss it here and there. so if people think youre stupid because you sound stupid speaking pidgin its your own damn fault. people judge other people on their language skills all over the world. hawaiians/locals have a reality check in order, sorry.

and please spare the message board any comebacks about white people did this and white people did that 400 or whatever years ago. i can tell you lots of shocking things that non caucasians have done around the world, but we are talking about people living today and what they do in hawaii that stinks…

Comment by AdiosHI — July 8, 2009 @ 4:27 pm

AdiosHI,

Aloha, I have spared the message board of comebacks with race agenda’s and have not brought up anything on a particular race. As for the discussion on changing who we are, it may not have been said verbatim, but the discussion on the pidgin language is one of the scenario’s. It hurts the image of Hawaiian locals (like I have stated before, I am Hawaiian, it doesn’t affect me..if some one wants to put me in a generalization..so be it), but only because it offends you or others. But if they are happy with it…then why should they change it? Let people be who they want to be and who they are!

Where might I add did I mentioned that injustices inflicted by any one was right?

Thank you for your opinions

Comment by OhMy — July 8, 2009 @ 4:52 pm

OhMy,

no i did not say you said “inustices inflicted by any one was right”, i said if you agree with people doing things like that you are messed up in the head. you might have ok attitudes, but unfortunately lots of your fellow islanders do not and they are worse than any racists i’ve seen anywhere else. i include the asians…japanese being by far the worst of them. yeah yeah i know they are not all that way, but there are enough of them that generalizing is valid in this case. what makes the japanese think they are SO superior anyway, i never understood?

i have to also add that despite all of the bad behavior and shameful racist acts visited on myself and my family by locals in hawaii, never
once in my life have i found some asian and hawaiian out on the street
and beaten the crap out of them here on the mainland “because a member of THEIR RACE wronged me”. i still take each person individual by individual

……..although, i could be like the folks in hawaii and just say “oh those people in hawaii wronged me, so i have the right to beat up and harrass asians and polynesians anywhere i find them”. so i am not being a hypocrite when i say kanaka maoli and asians in hawaii need to drop the “white people wronged my ancestors so i can wrong any white people i meet” attitude.

Comment by AdiosHI — July 8, 2009 @ 7:23 pm

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Pingback by Maui Hawaii, What is so Great About it? - The Blog Planet — July 11, 2009 @ 6:30 am

Simply put, Hawaii sucks.

Went there for a vacation once, and glad to say I’ll never go back. There were rude, racists people everywhere, and the cities were filthy and disgusting. It looked more like a third world hell hole than a picture postcard place that caters to tourists.

I make an effort to tell all my friends and acquaintances to avoid it like the plague when they ask for travel advice and my opinion of the place. I always recommend the Caribbean, or Mexico instead.

Good Riddance to the Hawaiian islands. I hope they sink to the bottom of the ocean.

Comment by GoodRiddanceHI — July 11, 2009 @ 4:59 pm

wow the further down you read the tables seem to turn it goes from white people saying that people from hawaii are racest and now the white people are being the raciest ones. so what if we speak different here. they speak different throughout the united states. youd never call some one that said “i reckon” a stpid dumb ass. one of your supporters say “never once in my life have i found some asian and hawaiian out on the street and beaten the crap out of them here on the mainland “because a member of THEIR RACE wronged me”. i still take each person individual by individual”
mabey so, but never in my life have i seen african americas killed for not doing anything. what have their ancestors done to wrong you?
you wanna talk about raceism and sterio types look in the mirror. yea you are entitled to your own opinion but so are we. It may not be perfect, and yea it could be beter, but I love Hawaii and i wouldnt trade it for the world.

Comment by proud 2 b hawaii — July 11, 2009 @ 6:30 pm

“but never in my life have i seen african americas killed for not doing anything. what have their ancestors done to wrong you?”

proud 2 b hawaii, what the hell kind of comparison is that? do you have any clue how stupid what you just said is? i am the one you are quoting there. are you accusing ME of killing africans? that is just foolish. you are taking one persons experience (mine) and confusing it with some unspecific thing from america’s history.

clown.

and no, the “you guys are the racists” defense is not a valid defense in response to what people are venting about on here. another stupid hawaiian local…. NOTICE I SAY “LOCAL” and that is not a “race”. you also are quite wrong to bring up the example of black americans in the u.s. because so much has been done to help them in the last 40-50 years. WHAT ARE HAWAIIAN LOCALS DOING TO CHANGE THEIR RACIST BEHAVIOR? More or less NOTHING.

in fact, BLACKS statistically kill more blacks than white people do. but that doesn’t fit with your racist ideas of white americans does it? plus ive seen plenty more racist black people over here than white people, it just doesn’t get the same attention. yes it’s true. they have plenty of racists in their population. man, gimme a break. are there ANY hawaiian locals that can get a grip and face reality on this issue?

Comment by AdiosHI — July 12, 2009 @ 2:02 am

GoodRiddanceHI,

yes i do the same thing now. ever since i realized how little the locals in hawaii care about the complaints of racism coming their way, i make an effort to educate everyone i know about what goes on there. the encouraging thing is, a lot of people i talk to tell me they already have heard!

what is so very shameful about it all too is the cynical coverup of the racism going on to keep the tourist money flowing in. yes it is a very dirty corrupt little part of the u.s. and if the locals, especially the “native hawaiians” want to “take it back” i like the idea of taking everything the u.s. put there and straight up leaving with it. yeah, see what happens in hawaii then. the chinese and japanese will own the hawaiians and if you’ve ever heard how japan dealt with its native ainu people. you will know what the hawaiians can expect. and then i really would love to see the way they come crying to the u.s. for salvation then.

Comment by AdiosHI — July 12, 2009 @ 2:11 am

I am hoping that some are listening or will listen to the confirmation of Sotomayer. In the hearings most senators all stated the importance of diversity. Diversity at all levels. It is well known that diversity especially in business and politics produces the most fair and successful results.
The locals of Hawaii appear not to understand this premise. It just seems that most folks here on these islands want to remain 25-50 years behind the times.
Where I work part-time, the employees are 95% locals. Whites and people from the mainland comprise 25% of the population. The discrimination and bias is pervasive and very obvious.
Our world has been moving rapidly towards globalization, and Hawaii will never keep up unless they become more open and fair. Hawaii will remain a borderline third world state. You would think that people would want the best for themselves and their children….NOT
Good Luck

Comment by Deborah — July 13, 2009 @ 10:47 am

this hole thread is the reason for the hatred towards whites!!!! dont u get it the more u say “stupid Hawaiians” the more you fuel the fire. all this bitching and complaining about us, just keep your ingnorant comments to yourselves and accept that maybe we like being behind the rest of the modern world or talking the way we talk, hunting and growing our own food. I was born and raised in Waianae, have a very heavy pidgin accent. does that make me stupid??? no because I can also turn it off and speak perfect english. Also I’m not a fat lazy ass Hawaiian that lives on welfare like most of you people assume. I make six figures and graduated from the worst school in the state (waianae high). I cant comprehend how upset some of these posts are makin me. You all are a bunch of pussies hiding behind your computer screen that would never dare say any of it to my face!! So I’m glad you all hate Hawai’i and want to leave cuz Hawai’i dont want you here!!! BEAT IT AND DONT COME BACK!!!!

Comment by Kawika — July 14, 2009 @ 5:32 am

Kawika,

so if this is a “haole thread” you racist douchebag i suggest you “BEAT IT AND DONT COME BACK!!!!”

and before you get your chest all puffed up thinking youre this big tough hawaiian guy, let me just tell you there are plenty of people i know of who would love an excuse to come to hawaii and beat all hell out of the racist hawaiians. unfortanately its a crime unless the “hawaiian kingdom” forms its own army and goes to war.

heres what i propose. you get all the racist hawaiians and locals into a group. you can put all your little red shirts on and go marching out in the open with your stinkeye looks at haoles, but you “pussies” declare open war this time instead of hiding behind your “minority rights protected oppressed victim” status. then we can see who the REAL PUSSIES are and what happens to them. so what are you waiting for tough guy? show us your “warriors” and trust me, you will get pwned by ours. go ahead pussy, MAKE OUR DAY.

Comment by AdiosHI — July 14, 2009 @ 11:25 am

can you believe this apebrain kawika? he says he makes a six figure income…LOL. and i thought hawaiians were so oppressed and impoverished? dont you just love the hypocrisy of these people? any excuse to blame white people for their failures they take it, but when they get wealthy and prosperous under the u.s. system, they take all the credit for themselves as if the u.s. was never there and slap white people in the face with their “high social standing”.

hysterical, and yet so pitiful…

Comment by AdiosHI — July 14, 2009 @ 11:36 am

Oh damn I would trust me but I’m kinda busy at the moment in AFGHANISTAN!!! dont believe check my ip address. u just proved my point by callin me douchebag, and pussy. hiding behind your screen hahaha!!! and a pussy is the last thing that I am buddy I run into bullets daily here. also i dont need to puff out my chest I already know I’m tough and would pound you into the ground. have a gorgeous day back in the states at least its not 120 degrees like here!!

Comment by Kawika — July 14, 2009 @ 11:40 am

u see me saying im opprssed and impoverished?? i wasnt but my ancestors sure as hell were.

Comment by Kawika — July 14, 2009 @ 11:44 am

yeah well thats all so much talk on the internet too kawika, so you still are a hypocrite. you started talking tough on here, first as i recall. you make six figures dodging bullets in afghan?

hmmmm…

i dont really care what your ip address is, it doesnt matter if you serve even in the military because if thats the case then you have ZERO RIGHTS to tell civilians not to speak their minds. freedom of speech is all okay with you hawaiians until somebody criticizes you then the threats start pouring out from your people thats why i said declare war and stop being pussies as a “nation”. stupid little personal pissing matches and tantrums like yours dont impress me. they just sound like the rants and boasts of an insecure stupid moke.

Comment by AdiosHI — July 14, 2009 @ 2:03 pm

“u see me saying im opprssed and impoverished?? i wasnt but my ancestors sure as hell were.”

LOL…

but all i hear from hawaiian locals is how bad they have it, how victimized THEY are personally, this and that. if your “ancestors” were oppressed and you arent, that puts the lie to so many claims made by hawaiians today, you should be telling them this fascinating little fact not white people…LOL you seem to be preaching to the wrong choir…….

Comment by AdiosHI — July 14, 2009 @ 2:22 pm

LOL but AdiosHI, you gotta appreciate Kawika. He proves so many of our points that we make about Hawaiians. He serves as a living, prime example of what the Hawaiian people truly are like. Man, all the Hawaiians keep going on and on about how their ancestors were oppressed and shit. So were mine. You don’t hear me bitchin and moanin. Get a backbone Kawika. And Kawika, Hawaii doesn’t want us here? Really? Well, I guess we can take all of our little haoles friends back to the mainland- including the tourists. LOL. Let’s see how you guys fair as your own little nation, with your little “growing of your own food” and shit. LOL. I’ve seen the way Hawaiians treat tourists and look out for their “own”. It’s pathetic, and somewhat immature. You all need to grow up and get over yourselves. Seriously.

Comment by LOL — July 14, 2009 @ 2:57 pm

but LOL, i think id appreciate him more if he really did run into some bullets like he says. yeah he probably catches them in his teeth and spits them back like some hollywood action hero too, all without messing up his hair. well, at least thats one moke who’s too busy somewhere else to be making stinkeye at elderly white tourists in waikiki…

Comment by AdiosHI — July 14, 2009 @ 10:48 pm

“Oh damn I would trust me but I’m kinda busy at the moment in AFGHANISTAN!!!”

ok fine…. first thing when you get back from afghanistan kawika, you get those red-shirted hawaiian fascists and all the other racists that want to scrap together and announce war with the u.s. dont talk. do it. i know you being such a tough mokeboy that you arent just talking out your ass….or are you?

oh i know a lot of people that would relish a chance for some serious paybacks at hawaiians. let me know when you get all the official paperwork done like the japanese after pear harbor, because i’ll even schedule a day off to take part, and yeah, one day is about all it’ll take to wrap up the “hawaiian royal moke forces”, if even that long.

Comment by AdiosHI — July 14, 2009 @ 10:59 pm

lol..”you dont see me bitching and complaining” this whole blog is about whites bitching and complaining on how they get bullied in Hawai’i. also when i said Hawai’i doesnt want you i was talking about everybody who hates it not the people who love it no matter the race. and i can self sustain if i had to whats funny about that. i got a stronger backbone than you will ever have. adiosHI still with the name calling as if it offends me being called a stupid moke only making yourself look unintelligent and immature. so hey I’m gonna do what u said and leave your blog so you can bitch among yourselves and talk all the shit you like cuz it is a free country like you said. i got better things to do like keep you people safe. A hui hou!

Comment by Kawika — July 15, 2009 @ 2:46 am

oh yeah, youre keeping me real safe kawika! LOL sorry but i have never been attacked by anybody from afghanistan. where were you when i had to fight off hawaiian locals all the time including racist ADULTS when i was a kid?

thats ok kawika i can protect myself just fine and if it were up to me, the military would be evicting the anti-american racist locals from hawaii too. they sound worse than al-qaida sometimes. i will thank you personally though if and when you go there and take care of the red-shirted Ku Kui Klan.

you said “just keep your ingnorant comments to yourselves and accept that maybe we like being behind the rest of the modern world or talking the way we talk. “yeah, so i guess whenever a group of people feel oppressed and wronged they should just shut up and like it? LOL well, why dont you just STAY IN AFGHANISTAN AND HANG OUT WITH THE TALIBAN THEN? they would love you. with an attitude like that, who needs enemies?

after all you said about making “six figures” and wanting free minded people to “shut up and go away”, i have to say i resent you being in the armed forces soaking up the tax dollars of people you think should “go away”. it sounds like you got in it just for the money and to show off how much “backbone” you have, so pardon me if i dont do backflips in patriotic glee over your service.

anyway dont worry about dodging bullets, you already have a hole in your head and nothing to lose there anyway…

Comment by AdiosHI — July 15, 2009 @ 11:49 am

I think part of the rudeness from people in general in Hawaii is that it’s too crowded here. I think there’s a lot of tension and people can’t find ways to channel their stress. Some of my co-workers have told me stories where at restaurants they were not served as fast as ‘locals’ and their service was noticeably different. I think Hawaii has changed a lot in the past 20 years, especially with the overpopulation. I also notice majority of the people here have 2 jobs. I read somewhere that Hawaii has one of the highest diabetic population. I figure this is because of all the loads of plate lunches served with the most artery blocking foods, such as mac salad, barbeque beef, spam, portugese sausage as typical food my friends eat on a regular basis. It can be avoided by making healthier choices, but I can see the temptation - plate lunches being relatively cheap for the amount of food you get. When I was there I made some bad choices and gained a lot of weight.

Comment by Ocean — July 16, 2009 @ 5:18 am

I was born in Hawai’i, and in my honest opinion, I have a Love/Hate thing with it here.
I like the weather, but having no winter here, no snow, just one HUGE rainstorm for 2 months [December and January], just not a fan of it.

As for the rest of the year, it’s just sunny. It sounds like great weather, but it gets old.

I have to agree with the Racism here. However, if you are nice and friendly, the locals will eventually respect you.

Everything is definitely expensive here.
An example of this is a carton of milk. On the mainland, it’s usually around 3 bucks. Over Here, it’s like 6 or 7 bucks.

Whenever I visit the mainland, I love it! There’s so much to do! There’s more stores to try [since there are lots of places in the mainland that aren’t in Hawai’i] and I feel bummed whenever I get on the plane back home to Hawai’i.

I will be going on another trip to the mainland around December, I’m going to California, then up to Washington, and then driving over the border to Vancouver,British Columbia Canada. I really can’t wait to go!

Anyway, That’s what I think about Hawai’i.

Comment by BCbound — July 18, 2009 @ 6:17 pm

Thumbs down. Been there. Six hours on a plane with a sore ass to meet an old friend who lives there, and then all I see out the airplane window on approach is a tiny rock. I was “rock happy” before the plane landed.

It is pretty. Weather’s perfect. That lasts a day or so, and then it is
B O R I N G .

Hawaii is hype. The reality is not Paradise but poverty, because everything is imported and expensive. My friend says the natives do not expect you to stay, so if you want to live there you have to last two years before they believe you will stay. He’s happy. I’m outta there, and happy to be back on the mainland.

I’d like to say it’s worth a trip just to see it, but I really don’t think so. For the same price you can go to Europe and see some real history of Western civilization. Don’t waste your time and money on a few rocks out in the Pacific in the middle of nowhere.

Comment by SamC inAZ — July 19, 2009 @ 7:23 pm

I really hope that the Akaka Bill passes and these jerks are able to succeed from the US. It pisses me off that American tax dollars go to employ people like kawika and huanani kay-trask, not to mention the 160 federally funded welfare programs we give to these people so that they can do ice, beat their wives and children, and beat and kill white people.
Obama says he will sign the Akaka Bill if it passes the Senate.
We American taxpayers need to stop giving our money to people who hate us, and since there is no money left and we are in debt, now would be a good time to clean house.
Its true that another country like China or Japan will take over and lets see how much these idiots like that.
Hey just had a great idea, maybe we could pay back some of the money we now owe China, and write off some of our debt by letting them buy (cheap) these friggin backward, filthy islands.

Comment by audrey — July 21, 2009 @ 8:43 am

LOL i like the way you think audrey. Yea AdiosHI kawika talked a lot, but didn’t have much to really say and back it up. It’s true. After about a week of sunny, wonderful weather- you get sick and tired of it. The only nice areas are the million dollar homes and a couple resorts. The rest of the hotels and everything are crap. I recently moved to hilo- lord the whole entire town is a dump. A couple really nice million dollar homes but that’s it. Everyone has shit stacked to the ceiling of their garage with car parts, cages, and who knows what else. They have 2-3 busted up cars in their yards and I even saw one guy pissing on his own lawn! Wow. Get a little class would you? If you can’t at least pretend like you have some- for the rest of us please.

Comment by LOL — July 21, 2009 @ 9:49 am

Hawaii sucks. I lived there for a while and it is terrible. So glad I moved. The only Aloha you find is the canned ice tea. And the accent….ohhh that accent….AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by Rob — July 21, 2009 @ 10:02 pm

Hawaii is just too isolated as well. The Mainland is just more exciting and not boring. I will definitely move to the Mainland later on. Most Likely Canada.

Comment by BCbound — July 21, 2009 @ 11:50 pm

Wow you guys! While searching for something on the internet I came across this site and am in shock.

I too, live in Hawai`i. I chose to move here back in 1991. I have loved this place since that first moment I walked off the plane. I live on the Windward side of O`ahu. My life is full of wonderful activities that only this type of atmosphere can offer. Almost anyday I want I can choose to either paddle my one-man, hike in the mountains, go to town for entertainment, eat a different type of ethnic food, or just stay home and relax.

As a native Texan, who experienced “reverse racism” for most of my childhood and teen years I am very sensitive to prejudice. I chose, when I first moved here, to embrace the Hawaiian people and culture. I worked to learn what I needed to know so that I could understand the people and their culture. I learned to speak their language (yes, i can speak pidgin just like a local), and to understand why they may have sensitivities about certain issues. I treat the Hawaiian people with respect and am treated the same in return. I know how to act so that I will not be seen as an outsider and considered a threat.

I know that a good portion of the fear that some Hawaiians have for outsiders is because of the loss of their culture, an 80% reduction in their population within the fist 60 years after contact was made, and their struggles to deal with past infractions and the current economic situation. And I respect them for their courage and perseverence.

I have never, ever, experienced prejudice from a Hawaiian for being white. I have experienced it from being a woman - from every ethnicity-, but not for being haole.

Yes it is expensive here, but I learned very quickly how to change my spending habits to meet my needs and still be comfortable.

Yes, I agree wholeheartedly that our local government has HUGE problems and I would love nothing more than to see an overhaul of the BIG BROTHER system and the removal of those currently in charge. Change takes time on a little island out in the Pacific, even more time than it takes a single person to see that they are wrong, admit it, and then decide on what corrections to make.

What is that old saying? If you don’t like something change it. If you can’t change it then accept it. The more negativity that we consciously choose to send out into the world then the more negativity we will recieve in return. I chose to be positive and my experience here has been just that.

There are several more topics that I could comment on here but I feel this is enough. If you are not happy then please just do whatever you need to do to make yourself happy. Happiness comes from inside, it doesn’t matter where you are. Please leave, if you can, if you can’t then look for the good here - there is plenty - while you are here. Look with eyes that expect to see good and that is what you will find.

I love the Hawaiian people and the culture. I love my Hawaiian home.

I love Hawai`i.

Comment by REALity — July 22, 2009 @ 1:53 pm

REALity- though happiness does come from the inside, I do agree with you on that, but only 40% of our happiness WE can control. The other 60% of our happiness comes from outside things- one of those things possibly being where we live, how we are treated, etc etc. So it’s not that easy to make yourself happy when you live in such a crummy place. Do you see what I’m saying?

Comment by LOL — July 22, 2009 @ 8:42 pm

REALity, I would say you have been exceptionally fortunate if you have not run into the type of not-so-nice locals other people did. good for you then. somehow you beat the odds, but thats all it is. just speaking from my experience and also the experiences of my family i can say some hawaiians/locals are genuinely nice…SOME.

however, i also know from the sum of all the above mentioned experience that racial antagonism, prejudice, and just plain insanity are well rooted in hawaii’s local culture. yeah yeah, i know about the history and hawaiians being crowded out, but i dont think that happened so much from people being “out to get them” as it did from the way hawaiians adapted poorly and slowly to a changing world. also, as i have stated before, with the population of “real” hawaiians being so small in the world, there is almost no way they can expect their culture to stay static forever. nobody’s culture does, much less a tiny island group like theirs. they have been more or less bred out of existence, although they willingly participated in the process…

so the hawaiians themselves are the BITTER, NEGATIVE ones, in my opinion, who bring the majority of their bad experiences with “outsiders” on through their own prejudices. i think they are the ones who mostly create negative social encounters by way of their “you have to respect me this is my land, and go to hell if you don’t like it” attitudes toward people different from them. they complain about outsiders/foreigners acting superior to them, not even realizing that a lot of them ARE SUPERIOR. the hawaiians cant expect everybody to be like you and do all the work adapting to THEM. the world doesnt work that way and ultimately, their mentality will see them going extinct for all intents and purposes. it might already be a culture well on its way to dying, and now they’re on their last gasp.

Comment by AdiosHI — July 22, 2009 @ 11:57 pm

shhhhh, quiet, audrey, youre not supposed to talk about all those welfare programs the hawaiians get, theyre trying so hard to pretend to be the poor oppressed victims of whitey’s imperialism. if you keep telling everybody those pesky little facts they wont be able to play the victim card for all the $$$$$ and free perks they can get. because thats really what its all about - MONEY. just like a monkey doing tricks for treats, the hawaiians have learned that “white guilt” pays, so they push it everywhere they can. theyre so brainwashed now though, they dont even realize theyre doing it anymore (or maybe they do).

Comment by AdiosHI — July 23, 2009 @ 12:05 am

@LOL:

kawika’s just a janitor working for kam schools. hes not fooling anybody. the six figures he says he makes, well, thats just if he changes his paychecks into pennies and adds in what he makes trading in recyclables - about 100,000 cents per year… the only bullets he dodges are from angry pakalolo growers when he does some free pruning and weeding in their prized planting boxes. i mean, seriously, what kind of a crackhead would tell me to check his I.P. address on here? how the hell would i do that? what an idiot.

Comment by AdiosHI — July 23, 2009 @ 12:19 am

i think the bumper sticker seen on the vehicles (with usually 3-4 400 lb.people in the back) sums it all up
“Hawaiian ‘Nuff Said”

Comment by kls — July 23, 2009 @ 12:49 pm

I see those stickers all the time, but, I don’t share similar pride even though I was born here. To be honest, I’d rather live in a different state.

Comment by BCbound — July 23, 2009 @ 1:11 pm

LOL AdiosHI. yea, Kawika was bullshitting when he said he makes six figures and all that crap. I know few Hawaiians that do LOL. LOL @ kls!
What I think is absolutely outrageous, speaking of seeing a bunch of people in the backs of trucks is this: we see all these commercials on TV and everything about “click it or ticket” and how “14 people in the state of Hawaii died last year- their lives could have been saved if they were wearing their seatbelts”. This is ridiculous considering they allow people (they say it’s only people over 18 but I have seen even little kids) to ride in the backs of trucks!! A 16-year old kid died in an accident last year I believe. The driver went too fast around a curve and the truck lost control and rolled. Everyone else was fine I believe. If that kid had not been in the back of the truck, I think his life could have been saved. So, Hawaii needs to get some things straight I think.

Comment by LOL — July 23, 2009 @ 1:44 pm

You got a Point there LOL.

Comment by BCbound — July 23, 2009 @ 5:02 pm

I think this thread is hilarious… most of the stuff posted is at least a little bit true but seriously, what good does getting on the internet and grumbling about it do you? Move away, thats what im doing when I finish school. 7 years here is enough and I miss Virginia. It doesnt mean that I think Hawaii Sucks it just means that I dont consider it home or paradise and would rather be somewhere else.

I think most of you guys are just salty because the standard of living out here is low unless you have a lot of money and you dont particularly enjoy the stuff that makes Hawaii good like the beach, great weather, scenery etc… Thats fine, not everyone likes it hot all the time. Not everyone likes surfing or kayaking. But getting angry about it wont make it better, you gotta make the best of wherever you are.

Dont listen to local people talking about the “mainland” all the time and get salty about it… they dont know what they are talking about for the most part. Maybe they went to vegas, seattle, or portland a couple times but that isnt the “mainland” it is just a couple of cities where it is unfamilar to them and the weather changes a lot more than here. Anyone who has actually lived other places and made personal relationships with people wouldnt use a moronic term like “mainland” to describe 300million other people or 48 other states as if they were all the same. It is a useless term, it just means “not hawaii, but in america” basically. hahaha

Yes, hawaii is racist and ethnist (is that a term?). Pake people are cheap, potagee people like to talk alot, buk buks will eat your black dogs and stab you if you cross them etc…lol. Dont let anyone tell you that they dont stereotype the hell out of people out here. But at the same time I dont think many people are actually beat up or stabbed because of their race or ethnicity. Hawaii actually has a relatively low violent crime rate considering the amount of languages and cultures that are here. Now some may argue the statistics are supressed because much of the domestic violence goes unreported, but still… there arent many murders per capita here.

Just get over it, its not paradise. No place is paradise. It is comfortable weather, decent people, and beautiful scenery in the middle of the pacific ocean. If you love taking road trips then you will not be happy here. If you love the changing seasons then you will not be happy here. If you love spending time with family, and your family lives somewhere else, you will not be happy here. If you like privacy and open spaces then you will not be happy here. But all of that is common sense now isnt it.

So seriously, quit attacking peoples culture when you moved to their home and not the other way around. There are a lot of good people in Hawaii and they dont deserve that.

Comment by needsajobinVA — July 23, 2009 @ 6:11 pm

“So seriously, quit attacking peoples culture when you moved to their home and not the other way around. There are a lot of good people in Hawaii and they dont deserve that.”

hmmmm… i guess everyone’s entitled to their opinion needsajobinVA, but since when is voicing criticism over racism and human rights abuses “attacking peoples culture”? and not all of us “moved to their home”. i was born there, so it was my home and my parents had to stay for awhile for financial reasons before they could move. even if you were saying it was “their home” from an ethnic standpoint, that is not true either. what do you see people living in over there? what do they use for transport? who made the roads and the shops and the harbors that keep hawaii alive? whose military protected it from other expansionist powers?

i’m afraid those are the contributions of americans, of all races, to be sure, but caucasians can take credit for a great deal of it. ethnically nobody can claim an exclusive right to hawaii, all protests by kanakas aside. you could just as easily say a lot of natives are living in “our” homes. yes its true that white europeans and americans have the right to call it home when historically they’ve contributed so much. all americans have the right to be there, in fact.

that you might think otherwise is due to the strong propaganda efforts of the racist element among hawaii’s locals. but since kamehameha decided to conquer his island neighbors with european help and subsequently invite them into his realm as permanent residents/advisors, the kanakas have only their own people to blame. they are the ones who need to “move on”, i already have. i think its healthy to bring all this out in a public forum also.

Comment by AdiosHI — July 23, 2009 @ 8:47 pm

ima work my way backwards here with you, “needsajobinVA”.
First of all, in the end LOL, you say, “There are a lot of good people in Hawaii and they dont deserve that”- where are they all hiding? Because I think I have yet to find “a lot”.

“But getting angry about it wont make it better, you gotta make the best of wherever you are.” We’re not getting angry. We’re simply voicing our opinions about Hawaii and what we think of it.

Just because Hawaii might not have a huge murder rate, that doesn’t mean that beatings and stabbings don’t occur. People probably don’t call the police because they know the police won’t do anything. Many of the cops here just sit around and “talk story”. Kids are always smoking pot along this popular street and the cops are always talking to them and just having a good ole time.

Comment by LOL — July 23, 2009 @ 11:28 pm

AdiosHI… Im more referring to the attacks on Pidgin english and Hawaii’s culture by people who are translplants to the islands. I just wouldnt move to August Georgia and tell people that they talk like idiots and I think some historical perspective is required in dealing with some of the cultural differences in Hawaii. Its not an ethnic standpoint, everyone is entitled to live here. It is from the standpoint of growing up in a different place, hopping off a plane, and telling people their home sucks. Why would you not expect that to piss people off??

Like I said, most of whats on here is true but a lot of the people sound consumed with anger about it and it doesnt seem productive. Maybe I just take it for what it is and make the best of it because I dont intend to make it my permenant home. It is racist here, Kamehameha did use european technology and help to conquer the islands, it is expensive here, it is overcrowded here, the public schools are poor, the government is corrupt etc… but overall I find the people to be relatively friendly and I rarely feel unsafe walking around at night with my wife. I wouldnt say that for every city I have lived in.

A lot of you guys are keeping it civil and Im not bashing you. But the anger and baseless attacks are doing a disservice to legitimate gripes. Using terms like “stupid Hawaiians” or “lazy Hawaiians” is racist (or ethnist i guess). Address actions and individuals rather than trying to put entire groups of people into a mold. While Hawaiians are disproportinately on welfare and other social programs, there are a lot of Hawaiian business owners and hard workers out there as well. Thats just my 2cents.

Comment by needsajobinVA — July 24, 2009 @ 4:14 pm

When I first came to Hawaii it was the first time I saw tan man taking a dump in an alley. And tan transvestites everywhere. Who would want to live or visit here? This place smells urine. And is dirtier than Tijuana. The natives have no teeth and have never invested in a tooth brush. I cannot understand what the natives are saying it sounds like they have a turd in their mouth. Everyone is on ice.

Hawaii, is the Tijuana of the Pacific. Dont spend your money or time on worthless garbage(the people). California especially San Francisco has more to offer.

Comment by Deshawn Jackson — July 25, 2009 @ 1:11 am

LOL What’s wrong with transvestites Deshawn Jackson? They are people just like us. LOL That’s like saying, “there’s women everywhere!!! who would want to come to such a place!!!”

Comment by LOL — July 25, 2009 @ 9:17 am

Also, I cannot believe how stupid white people are, they continue to give hawaii there money as tourist. white people are some of the most naive people. these hawaiians are the most racist people on the face on the earth. i have lived in the states and been in the south and the kkk is nothing compared to these monsters. They absoulutly hate people, they love to prey on them when they visit or live here.

I watch Hawaiians take white women and men to back alleys and sodomize them and strip them all their clothes and money. And the police did not even come.

Heck the white people must love the abuse, they keep coming back and feeding their enemys. You would see a person like me giving the kkk my money and letting them abuse me, would you.

Hawaiians are beyond the kkk when it comes to hate. They only way to shut these deviants down is for people to stop coming to this scummy island full of meth heads and sex fiends, aids is also rampant here.

white people stop coming to the islands and feeding these evil monsters known as Hawaiians.

wake up.

Comment by Deshawn Jackson — July 25, 2009 @ 2:06 pm

I am at a loss for words. First off, all I hear is “hawaiians this, hawaiians that.” Do any of the naysayers realize that Hawaii has a population of 1.2+ million people and only 20% are Native Hawaiians or part Hawaiian, which means 80% of the population claims another ethnicity. So how is it that 20% of the population can cause another so much grief and warrant such an attack of character or culture?

Deshawn you said, “When I first came to Hawaii it was the first time I saw tan man taking a dump in an alley. And tan transvestites everywhere. Who would want to live or visit here?” Do you realize that tan people could be any ethnicity or are you just that naive?

Comment by OhMy — July 25, 2009 @ 5:48 pm

oh my dont try to cover up your peoples filth, tan people -= hawaiians

beleive me i know the difference, hawaiians love to hide there scummy ways. they dont tell the truth , for fear of the white tourists not coming to there island. The hawaiians are completely hostile and racists towards white people. The police dont do anything because they are tan themselvves and corrupt as hell.

White people reading this dont go to Hawaii, they will rob and steal from you. The hawaiians hate you.

Comment by Deshawn Jackson — July 25, 2009 @ 8:05 pm

Also, one of the tricks of Hawaiians is to pretend their island is paradise and safe. It isnt, the Hawaiians control everything and they dont care about law. Like I said before they talk and plot about to degrade and humilate white people. The sit up in their rooms with other tan people and laugh about how much money they stole or about beating and raping white people. White tourists stop going there and these ice fat and lazy racist criminals will not have any income.

Comment by Deshawn Jackson — July 25, 2009 @ 8:51 pm

Aloha Deshawn,

How might I add do you know the difference..is ‘I’m Hawaiian’ stamped on our forehead? Tourists are tourists, no matter what color they are–Caucasians are not the only visitors to the islands. I’m part Hawaiian and hate is a very strong word! I’m as honest as they come and don’t hate any race. NOTE, I said I was part Hawaiian because I am also Caucasian…does that mean I despise myself?

Also, I have family in the Police Department and as with any state..every Police Department has its own corruption. I live in the real world and realize that there are just some people out there with their own agenda’s…PERIOD!

Comment by OhMy — July 25, 2009 @ 8:55 pm

How many white officers in Hawaii are white? 0…… You mean to tell me you cant spot a native Hawaiian? Dont play the innocent role, hawaiians even have a code name for whites.

what I am saying is the hawaiians specifically go out of there way to humilate and degrade and commit crimes against white people. not asians or blacks. do you understand? I am telling all the white people (especially american ones) not to go to island, because they will be targeted by racist and criminals that are hawaiian.

Comment by Deshawn Jackson — July 25, 2009 @ 10:00 pm

The questions should be..do you understand what I am saying?! I’m part hawaiian; I am not a criminal, have a college degree, and am far from racist.

So, Deshawn, are you teling me that being half Caucasian and half Hawaiian makes that person less Caucasian. LOL..the questions should actually be, do YOU understand what YOU are saying?

Comment by OhMy — July 25, 2009 @ 10:39 pm

Kala mai ia’u (excuse me). I mean the question should be…made a little booboo

Comment by OhMy — July 25, 2009 @ 10:52 pm

The questions should be..do you understand what I am saying?! I’m part hawaiian; I am not a criminal, have a college degree, and am far from racist.

So, Deshawn, are you teling me that being half Caucasian and half Hawaiian makes that person less Caucasian. LOL..the questions should actually be, do YOU understand what YOU are saying?

In your island it does, the Hawaiian people hate whites especially american whites.

They are complete racist animals. Now you are saying you are not like that at all.

Your Hawaiian Government and people are, and please dont act all innocent like you didnt know hawaiian people hate whites.

I love how hawaiian natives play stupid, your police and government doesnt even consider whites human, they have no rights in your state, it is just like the deep south in the early 1900’s . Only the whites are targeted now in hawaii in the 21 st century.

Please if you address me , dont address me in your racist Hawaiian language.

So, Deshawn, are you teling me that being half Caucasian and half Hawaiian makes that person less Caucasian.

No, all humans should be treated with respect and royalty, your island doesnt have a clue, when the money stops coming from white tourists, then maybe you will wake up.

Comment by Deshawn Jackson — July 25, 2009 @ 11:47 pm

Aloha Aloha Aloha Deshawn,

Yes, I am saying I am not like that at all. However, if you are arrogant, ignorant, and anything else for that matter, I have every reason to look at you the way I do, but it’s not because of the color or your skin. Its more with the size of your brain.

“So, Deshawn, are you teling me that being half Caucasian and half Hawaiian makes that person less Caucasian.

No, all humans should be treated with respect and royalty, your island doesnt have a clue, when the money stops coming from white tourists, then maybe you will wake up.”–Actually, you are right everyone should be treated with respect, but after reading your comments…you are the one who doesn’t have a clue.

Actually, my response to half so and so..was in response to your comment about ‘white’ officers..you said there are none. So I responded with my answer. You seriously need to slow down and think before you begin to write, your remarks or respones are getting all jumbled up.

Comment by OhMy — July 25, 2009 @ 11:56 pm

Take your funky aloha and shove it. I dont care what a hypocrite half tan half white girl thinks. I know racism and racists people.

Hawaiian people are the biggest hypocrites on the face of the earth. I am telling the truth about you racists hawaiian garbage.

Hawaiians blame the whites for your troubles and use a code name to demean them, hawaiians steal and rob and rape innocent white people , Hawaiians are fat lazy drug addicted leeches who should blame themselves for the failures , and have one of the lowest iq’s of any culture ever.

Actually, my response to half so and so..was in response to your comment about ‘white’ officers

there are no white officers in hawaii.

oh my, now go hit your ice pipe.

D Jackson….

Comment by Deshawn Jackson — July 26, 2009 @ 12:45 am

Does it make you feel good to assume? You know nothing about me and yet you still judge. As for all Hawaiians being drug addicts, look around you, you would be surprised how many addicts you are surrounded by. I’m sorry to burst your negative bubble, but I haven’t touched tje drug that has definitely taken the innocence of the world and turned it into mush. You need to seriously wake up and realize that there are people like you and people like me, I choose to look at what is inside rahter than what color someone is and on the other hand there are people like you who like at the color of someone’s skin. And again…we have ‘white’ officers, your ignorance just blinds you. Oh and yes, haole in its truest meaning is not a code name. If it were code..would you know the meaning?

Aloha ahiahi….

Comment by OhMy — July 26, 2009 @ 1:07 am

well OhMy, i dont want step in the middle of the quarrel between you and Deshawn, but i will say this much. even if you (OhMy) dont have the negative traits seen so often in hawaiian locals, there are many who do behave as Deshawn describes. doesnt that concern you? i would think that with so many people saying this stuff you would take a step back and ask why. maybe you live in a bubble somewhat yourself?

i personally do feel its time for hawaiis racism to get the full force of national media attention so we can see just how many hawaiians stand on the “dark side” and how many are really progressive. they simply must deal with this or my feeling is that the u.s. government needs to go into the place as if it were a territory inhabitied by enemies of our country and clean house. it seems we have been far too “sensitive” and accomodating to a people who feel violently inclined towards the u.s. and white people in particular and this is why wars are fought. sometimes unfortuntately its the only way to settle things. the “hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil” mindset of hawaiians with regard to their xenophobic hatred of caucasians has to end one way or another. if not peacefully, then at the point of a gun. sorry, thats just reality as i see it.

Comment by AdiosHI — July 26, 2009 @ 11:43 am

Aloha AdiosHI,

I have said before that there are problems here and yes something needs to be done. I look at how these people have so much animosity and what they do and how they treat EVERYONE and am disgusted as well.–These people are the one’s who give Hawaiians a bad name. I am only standing up for the simple fact…DON’T ATTACK AN ENTIRE CULTURE BECAUSE OF SOMEONE’S WRONG DOINGS! I have never in all of my postings said that I didn’t think we did bad or turned a blind eye to it. Give me a break racism happens everywhere, I know it exists! I am far from living in a bubble, I’ve dealt with racism while traveling abroad, but sh** happens, I look the other way, and keep doing what I am doing. It’s like being a foreigner on U.S. soil and condemning us–yes us..because I am an American, and saying that we are all murders or terrorists because of the wars we fight in other countries. Does it make them right? NO…simply put.

Comment by OhMy — July 26, 2009 @ 12:02 pm

What we need to do..is to start educating future generations, realize that racism is a global problem and rather than attack a culture…nuture all differences in each and every one of us. Corruption, deceit, hypocrites, hate, etc. is where civilzation went wrong. We are all different, see things differently, react differently…we are just different. But until we all step back and look at how we can better this life and the next; future generations will live in a world where differences are hated. This is just the way I see it!

Comment by OhMy — July 26, 2009 @ 12:16 pm

well OhMy i appreciate the content of your last two posts and feel you are indeed an intellgent person, so i hope your type wins out over the fanatical hawaiian kingdom crazies and other bigots. you are correct there is racism all over. i am not saying people in the broader u.s. are perfect either, they are not. however, on the mainland i strongly believe “white americans” do much more to answer complaints of racism than non-caucasians generally do in hawaii.

i guess thats the reason i keep commenting on it, because i dont think the locals are even coming close to an attempt at true reconciliation with those they have so many issues with and pent up hostility toward. but i take encouragement from your words. you are the first ive seen rise to this level of maturity and i sincerely hope you are not the only one or the last one.

Comment by AdiosHI — July 26, 2009 @ 1:30 pm

Aloha AdiosHI,

I appreciate your feedback as well…yes I even hold appreciation for the negative feedback here as well. You are who you are and you believe in what you believe in. I am only one person–who am I to tell anyone what they can or cannot believe in; all I can do is speak from the heart and hopefully everything will just fall into place. I truly know that the Aloha Spirit exists and is alive and strong, but as with any negatives and positives, the positives are always overlooked, inspite of everything. I am and have been blessed with a strong value of respect for others and for who I am and where I come from…and those values come from family and friends.

Comment by OhMY — July 26, 2009 @ 2:25 pm

OhMY it sounds like you for one, are on the right track. i have always thought that the native hawaiians would get better results by being less caustic and critical toward the u.s. and admitting that there are two points of view involved with truth and merits in each. trying to form this separate nation while disrespecting the u.s. and bashing caucasians will lead nowhere and probably cause a great deal of misery in the end for various people, in my humble opinion.

as for other non-hawaiian locals of hawaii, yes, there’s only so much you as one person can do. all i ask is that if you meet any of these disgruntled white-hating types just tell them this kind of thing is being duely noted and filed into memory by people beyond hawaii and it will catch up with them. one great karmic circle.

at no other time in my life while living in the u.s. have i seen so many white people becoming so fed up with being the only ones held to high standards and expectations over racism. we want racist minorities held accountable also and wont stand for double-standards as we have in the past. now its time to balance out the equation. i suppose its just the natural progression to some better state of harmony between the races. at least i hope so.

Comment by AdiosHI — July 27, 2009 @ 12:20 am

AdiosHI wrote: “at no other time in my life while living in the u.s. have i seen so many white people becoming so fed up with being the only ones held to high standards and expectations over racism. we want racist minorities held accountable also and wont stand for double-standards as we have in the past. now its time to balance out the equation. i suppose its just the natural progression to some better state of harmony between the races. at least i hope so.”

I’ll drink to that. Replace many of the things I have heard out here with a white person saying it about any minority and they would be fired on the spot. The pendulum has clearly swung a little far in the other direction and needs to come to rest at the center where everyone treats everyone with respect.

Comment by needsajobinVA — July 27, 2009 @ 1:52 pm

yes, needsajobinVA, exactly…. i am personally having a very hard time with minorities who demand respect for “their culture” and reciprocate none in return. this defies all logic and human nature. i would tell other white people to stick together and have a unified voice about it, but im already cringing thinking of the shrill screams of “racist” and “white supremacist” i will hear.

that i think, is the first hurdle to overcome. we have every right to speak our minds and not worry about intimidation (verbal or otherwise) by an excitable, radical vocal minority, whoever they might be.

Comment by AdiosHI — July 28, 2009 @ 12:31 am

I lived in Hawaii over a decade. I have hundreds of horror stories. I also recommend readers learn about the vast corruption in Hawaii by googling ‘hawaii corruption’ and ‘Bishop Estate.’

I worked a job once in Hawaii where I heard “Stupid fuc#@ng haole” about everyday from locals there (forgetting I was in a work van) and sometimes even “Get back in the back of the van, haole” or “you can’t sit next to the pretty g1rl, haole–move”, etc. One case I know about, a white guy, who was with a polynesian , was defending himself from a group of locals ready to attack him…white guy pulls out a small knife…one local lunged at him and got a little cut. At court case, they show a blown up view of the little cut and put the white guy away for life.

I was often stopped by local cops for no reason and given tickets, etc. In a large mill there, Japanese locals would think out ways to get someone of a diff’t race demoted or fired..they were called the ‘Japanese mafia.’ A highway was being built through homes so the state was giving land & money to homeowners. One Hawaiian guy I knew was simply renting. They gave him a million dollar piece of property illegally.

Tourist women sees local guys break in her rent-a-car and steal stuff. She even gets license plate number of their truck. Cops don’t do anything saying the theives truck was more green-blue than blue-green. A witchcraft book tells of a woman living on Maui and visiting a home by someone doing Hawaiian blackmagic. She said there were shrunken human heads hanging in the home (perhaps that’s what happens to some of the missing people there?). White lady has her head cut off by a tiger shark, and the hired shark hunter, a white guy, tells me at a cafe’ how p’eed he is as local Hawaiians threaten his life for going after a shark because their amakua spirits are in the shark.

I now know why the Bible, in the book of Revelation, says all the Islands will sink.

Comment by Hawaii no paradise — July 28, 2009 @ 1:07 pm

U r correct. I live in the South, and I have also lived in Honolulu, and the Southern people are so much nicer, to my surprise. They are very friendly and decent, respectful people over here. I always assumed Hawaii people were the nicest since I kept hearing Aloha Spirit and Hawaiian Style…etc etc… But, truth is, Honolulu people are very rude and obnoxious. I don’t blame u for wanting to move outta there. After living in Nashville for a couple years now, I prefer the people here, believe it or not they have the true Aloha Spirit that Hawaii keeps yakking about but never shows, unless u got a lotta dough

Comment by Williona — July 28, 2009 @ 1:51 pm

hey holmes, aloa really means “Hypocrite”

Comment by Jose — July 28, 2009 @ 1:56 pm

Aloha=Hypocrite

Comment by Jose — July 28, 2009 @ 1:59 pm

Almost everyone I know thinks these rocks in the middle of the ocean are the best place on earth to live…… To be honest, I lived here my whole life, it’s really boring and expensive.

I’d like a place that has a wintertime, with tons of snow.

Hawaii just has 2 seasons, Summer and Spring.
It sounds like perfect weather, but it gets old.

Lots of my friends from the mainland that come to live here say to me
that they miss the cold and snow. I can’t blame them. I’ve seen snow only once and I wish it could snow here too.

Not just on the mountains, I mean everywhere.

Honolulu shouldn’t be called a city…. it’s very small and theres nothing to do except the beach. I’ve met locals who hate Honolulu as well. Lame City.

Other than that, Hawaii is just okay. Nothing to rave or really praiseworthy.

Hawaii is Overrated.

Comment by BCbound — July 28, 2009 @ 2:05 pm

Williona wrote “U r correct. I live in the South, and I have also lived in Honolulu, and the Southern people are so much nicer, to my surprise. They are very friendly and decent, respectful people over here. I always assumed Hawaii people were the nicest since I kept hearing Aloha Spirit and Hawaiian Style…etc etc… But, truth is, Honolulu people are very rude and obnoxious.”

thank you for saying that. I dont understand why but I have heard over and over agian how “local people” are so much nicer than “mainland people” and “local style” is so much better than “mainland style”. Then when I tell them they dont know what they are talking about they get mad at me… its like I have to denounce any love of where I came from to get accepted out here.
My wife was astonished when she came to virginia with me. I had white neighbors, black neighbors, filipino neighbors, mexican neighbors, puerto rican neighbors (the navy is huge there so there is a lot of ethnic diversity)… and we all got together and shot hoops, drank beers, and shot the shit (talk story) with each other. I told her that we grew up like that, all of us went to the same high school, used to play after school together, and our families all know each other. She was really surprised. It is like there is some propaganda machine in the islands that wants them to believe everyone in the “mainland” is racist isolationists and only “local people” are friendly, accepting, and have aloha. She wants to move now, she said tidewater VA made honolulu look like a third world country with the run down buildings, overcrowded housing, questionable construction, homeless problem, and high cost of living.

Comment by needsajobinVA — July 28, 2009 @ 4:15 pm

Hawaii no paradise wrote “I was often stopped by local cops for no reason and given tickets, etc.”

I have had similar experiences. I have been pulled over and issued tickets three times that were dropped immediately in court for lack of evidence. The cops dont even show up. One ticket the cop wrote for “exibition of speed” but didnt even put a speed on the ticket, he just said he thought I “accelerated a little quick” off the light. But i still gotta take time off work and go to court to deal with it or just bend over and pay the fine so they win either way.

I worked as a security guard in waikiki for a year. Every day there were thefts and fights. Not to mention the people who would sit on the boardwalk asking people to “borrow a dollar” and then scream “fuck you fucking haole piece of shit, u stole my land, go back to where you came from…” if they didnt give them any money.

It is a wonder that people spend so much money to vacation here when the carribean and mexico are so much closer, cheaper, and in most cases safer.

Comment by needsajobinVA — July 28, 2009 @ 4:23 pm

I first visited Hawaii, I was roobbed at gunpoint by Hawaiian natives. They took everything. I reported it to the police, two Hawaians looking guys told me it was my fault. And” they really hate White Americans”.

They basically laughed at me. I had to use western union to get help from family.

I am know sending out several emails around America letting them not to go to Hawaii, and to patronize other countries.

They are also getting the message , within the next few years, Hawaiis economy will be shafted because Americans will not go there.

Comment by Jim — July 30, 2009 @ 6:19 pm

Man, when I got to the Islands I noticed most of the Hawaianos looked like transvestites, most of the Hawaian men are queers. I guess that is what they mean about hawaian style.

Hawaian men are some of the goofiest and gay looking men I have ever seen. Black Folks laugh at hawaians.

Comment by Leroy Jones — July 30, 2009 @ 6:23 pm

I hate Hawaii- but calling them queers are to insult them is stupid Leroy Jones. You’re acting as if being gay is a bad thing. Shut the fuck up.

Comment by LOL — July 30, 2009 @ 10:03 pm

*queers in order to

Comment by LOL — July 30, 2009 @ 10:05 pm

what i still cannot understand is why the f.b.i. hasnt gone into hawaii and checked up on all the corruption. have they just decided its not important to find and convict all the racist lowlives abusing their authority there? has anyone ever reported it? why hasnt anything been done? i just dont see why with so many complaints on this board (and there are surely more who havent been counted), we havent seen any action taken by federal authorities. hawaii is still a state in the union, is it not? strange…

Comment by AdiosHI — July 31, 2009 @ 2:18 pm

Wait until the US Government cuts off welfare to all those fat Hawaiian men who smoke ice. They will resort to selling themselves.

Comment by Leon — July 31, 2009 @ 2:29 pm

Just get over it, its not paradise. No place is paradise. It is comfortable weather, decent people, and beautiful scenery in the middle of the pacific ocean. If you love taking road trips then you will not be happy here. If you love the changing seasons then you will not be happy here. If you love spending time with family, and your family lives somewhere else, you will not be happy here. If you like privacy and open spaces then you will not be happy here. But all of that is common sense now isnt it. - Needsajobinva

This is so true, and thanks for pointing it out, Needsajobinva. Seems most of the complainers on this site don’t enjoy or cannot appreciate what Hawaii has to offer, which is why they keep griping. I dislike big cities like London and I’m sure if I had to live there, I wouldn’t be happy and would probably complain a lot. Bottom line is, if you don’t like a place, don’t go there again, or leave. You have a choice.

There are racist people everywhere in this world.

Comment by Lver — August 1, 2009 @ 9:01 am

“There are racist people everywhere in this world.”

only someone who has not experienced the kind of racism that exists in hawaii, or worse, condones it, would make a statement like this. saying “there are racist people everywhere in this world” does not excuse it or the people who are guilty of it. if whites on the mainland have to take complaints from minorities and bend over backwards to be “sensitive” and address them, the same goes for non caucasians in hawaii.

so, lver, would you think it was a fair choice for us on the mainland to just tell non caucasian people to go away the next time they complain of racism, just because, hey, its everywhere? do you think thats how it should be handled?

Comment by AdiosHI — August 1, 2009 @ 1:51 pm

but i agree with you about one thing Lver, people should not go to hawaii and be subjected to the kind of vicious corruption and racism there. exactly. and now you know why people are posting messages here. to save other people the trouble of finding out the hard way.

Comment by AdiosHI — August 1, 2009 @ 1:53 pm

Was surfing the web looking up sunshine law violations and came across this site. My oh my! It seems as if some people did not enjoy their stay in the islands.

Hawaii has its problems, including racism, just like other parts of the country and the world. Frequently it runs along socio-economic lines just as much as ethnic lines.

I grew up here. My high school in the 60’s was 60% Japanese, about 15-20% Hawaiian, 11% Caucasian and the rest were of mixed background, Chinese, Korean, Filipino and an occasional Samoan. The Japanese pretty much associated and dated only Japanese, Filipinos dated Filipinos, Caucasians (Haoles) dated Caucasians and Hawaiians dated Hawaiians. There was some crossing of these lines but not that much. It has changed significantly since then and Hawaii now has the highest percentage of mixed race marriages in the country. You become much more tolerant and undertanding of other groups when your brother/sister, son/daughter, marries outside of your ethnic group and you now have nieces, nephews, grandchildren, that are of mixed heritage. So my extended family has Scots, Irish, German, English, Hawaiian, Japanese, Filipino, African-American,Puerto Rican, Portuguese,Chinese, Swedish, Jewish, Catholic, Protestant, Bhudhist and Native American roots.

Hawaii isn’t perfect and it can be particularly difficult and trying for military families. Because we are a relatively small place with a relatively small population, people here tend to base how they relate to each other by whether they are related to each other or related to each other’s friends. Conversations in Hawaii when you meet someone for the first time will quickly turn to where you went to high school and what year you graduated. Part of the conversation will be whether you know so and so or based upon your name whether you are related to so and so. This type of identifying yourself and family has its roots in both Polynesian and Asian cultures. Once you have identified that you have common friends, extended family, the stranger now becomes the familiar and you establish a relationship. You have now becme one of us as opposed to one of them (outsiders, strangers).

This type of cultural practice can make it difficult for those who are not raised here or who have not lived here for a long time to feel accepted or even comfortable.

Added to the problems of cross-cultural issues (body language, pidgin) is the fact that significant portions of our population are under/poorly educated, live in poverty and we have huge drug problems that exacerbate other problems.

Some resentment of Caucasians/haoles still resonates in the islands. Some of it goes back to the days when Caucasians were the bosses and everyone else was subservient to them (the white luna/boss on on white horse overseeing the workers), a pervading sense of loss on the part of Hawaiians going back to the overthrow of the monarchy by a predominantly Caucasian American group and the subsequent loss of sovereignty. Some of it is due to the rapid influx of people who have moved into Hawaii since statehood and the inevitable pressures on an island state with finite resources.

Those of you who didn’t like it here or didn’t feel comfortable have a state you came from or some place you can go back to where you feel comfortable. For Native Hawaiians, this is their homeland, this is where their ancestors are buried and every social indicator has them on the bottom of the ladder. Percentagewise, more Hawaiians are incarcerated, die young of treatable diseases due to lack of access to health care, suffer from drug and alchohol abuse etc. Much of the anger you see expressed in a diatribe by one of the Trask sisters is rooted in despair and concern over the fate of their people and the loss of their country.

By the way, there are many places on the mainland that I wouldn’t venture out in at night, similarly there are places here to avoid as well. We are no worse than many other parts of this country. My friend who is Hawaiian married a blonde blue-eyed white woman. Coming back from his service in the military with his wife, he travelled through the South where he encountered discrimination because white Southerners thought he was black married to a white woman. When he got to Texas he encountered discrimination because white Texans thought he was a latino married to a white woman. When he got to Arizona, he encountered discrimination because white people thought he was an Indian married to a white woman. He was happy to get home to Hawaii alive (with his wife). As a student on the mainland, he and other Hawaiians experienced discrimination from Caucasians because of their dark skin. Some of the discrimination was physical (getting beat up etc).

We all have a lot of progress that we need to achieve in race relations as well as other fronts. Somehow I don’t think many of the bloggers here are interested in moving forward and trying to make things better. In that case, it’s just as well you move back to the other 49 as we have enough problems here with those of us remaining.

Comment by Local girl — August 2, 2009 @ 2:09 am

Local girl, i dont know the details of the racism you say that interracial couple experienced. if you say it happened, ok. maybe it did. but i can say i have lived in all regions of the u.s. except alaska and honestly cant recall ever seeing white people behave with open hostility to non-caucasians. havent observed many interracial couples in public, but those i have seen werent harassed and didnt seem concerned they might be.

now hawaii on the other hand… well i saw racist acts (not just spoken words) more or less constantly against caucasians (and sometimes by other races at each other). so in my experience, hawaii has the much bigger problem with race relations. thats problem one.

heres problem 2: you say you dont think many of the people posting comments are interested in moving forward and making things better. dont you think they would have to believe hawaii CAN move forward before they could do that? i think some people have given up on hawaii, so your observation is flawed in that sense. with all the corruption and the generally lackadaisical “thats just how it is here” attitude locals have about racism and other problems, how could it get better?

i have to say im on the fence over whether hawaii can improve or not. why? answer this question for me. when was the last time you saw a public addmission and apology from locals, especially the kanaka maoli, over decades of misdirected unjust racist acts toward caucasians there? how likely do you think that is to happen? my guess is you are probably about to laugh over my question, but it is a serious one.

will we ever see a european (white) appreciation day in hawaii? yes, i mean it. how often do hawaiians/asians in hawaii stop to ponder the good things europeans have brought to them instead of droning on about diseases (such as smallpox, which did not originate with europeans, btw) and takeovers? can any of them name all the diseases, even three or four, that have been cured by europeans? how many of their lives have been saved by medical advances developed by europeans? do they know the answers to these questions, and if not, why do you suppose that is? isnt it funny how you and other locals always attribute perceived wrongs to “white people” but dont call their contributions which you all benefit from “white technology” or “white medicine”?

and will native hawaiians ever admit to their own responsibility for their failures, such as their preference for running off to the beach or goofing off instead of taking their educations seriously? i know that goes on because ive heard it from teachers there.

those are just a few of the questions id have to see answered, not just with words but actions, before i could be convinced hawaii has any chance at a bright future. obviously, i have strong doubts that the necessary changes will happen.

Comment by AdiosHI — August 2, 2009 @ 11:13 am

Local girl, thanks for your input. I agree with almost all of what you said. I think that the most challenging this for a lot of new people is Hawaii is being labeled an “outsider” and treated as such. I think there is a bit of what I would call a small town mentality out here because of the fact that people who are born here dont leave that much and their lives revolve around extended family and familiar places. It is not uncommon for “local” kids to go away to college then move right back in with their parents for years after they graduate. And it is relatively common also for people to vacation in places like las vegas where they all stay in a particular part of town that exclusively caters to people from Hawaii.

You are absolutely right about the high school thing. It is not only used to establish common bonds but also a way to size you up and place you in a social category. If you say you went to Farrington or Campbell you are assessed much differently than if you went to Punahou or Iolani. And if you say you went to a college anywhere in the continental U.S. you are put in the “mainland” category.

Although there is a good amount of tolerance for interracial couples here I frequently get stares (from old Japanese men in particular) when I am out with my wife. Nobody likes the idea of other people coming in and “taking their women”. Lol, its not like interracial couples dont get stared at in other states either though. But with each generation it gets better as people intermarry and as the cultures influence each other. And you are absolutely right that it is a lot harder to stereotype people once they are in your family or you have personal relationships with them.

To AdiosHI, nobody is going to publicly apologize to whitey at least not anytime soon. I feel your pain, you just want consitancy… why did David Howard get fired for using the word “niggardly” (which was used in proper context and has no racial connotation) while Jesse Jackson can call new york “hymietown” and run for president or Judge Sotomayor can make blatantly racist comments in public speeches and get elected to the supreme court? It doesnt make any sense. But it is the political climate right now. Success by any minority is “overcoming obstacles” and success by caucasians is expected due to “socioeconomic advantages”. Just dont mention the fact that the average per capita income in America is actually the highest for Asians out of any racial group. Lol.

Comment by needsajobinVA — August 2, 2009 @ 4:00 pm

needsajobinVA,

to answer your questions in the most succinct way i can (im up late and tired at the moment), its because we as white u.s. citizens have been laboring under the misconception for many years now that if WE just accepted the guilt trip foisted on us by minority activists and played along with their demands to remedy all the things they find to be “racist” about us, that we would eventually see a racially harmonious society.

sorry, i dont think it has worked out very well.

it might be a nice dream, but thats all it will ever be as long as the minorities in question refuse to pull their weight when it comes to recognizing and rectifying their own racist actions. frankly, all i see them doing is making excuses for their bigotry and not much else. even when white people struggle to make changes and do what we think is right, it just seems the minorities deny us any credit, behave as if they did it all by themselves, then turn around and become even more demanding, caustic, and hostile. as i said before, they invariably admonish us to respect and learn about their “cultures” but wont do the same in return. im generalizing, true, but i think you know what i mean.

Comment by AdiosHI — August 3, 2009 @ 12:16 am

Just to put my two sense into this article, ” F**k the Americans, British, Australians, Canadians, Africans, Mexcians, Hawaiians, , White people, Black people, Japanese people, Chinese People, Filipino people, Beaners (mexican), Terrorists, Germany, Dutch, Indian people, Korean people, and everyone else I forgot to mention because you’re a minority. There now that I’ve bedazzled every single race i can think of, all of you idiots can now either praise/rant about how racists I am (oh my! Does it look like I give a F**k?)

Now back to the story, there is racism everywhere. Why would any of you give a damn about people on a rock? Look there are blacks shooting whites, Asians slicing up blacks, Mexicans taking our jobs, yet all of you imbeciles rant about nothing that hasn’t already been accomplished (GJ Retards! ). Further more, location doesn’t change the fact where racism occurs. You think southern people are perfect? HA! Just look back 200 years ago. (Don’t even deny it white people , YOU know what you did to those poor minorities! “Oh but it was 200 years ago ya’ hear, that was a long time ago.” Who gives a S**T?? You still did it.) Further more, it doesn’t matter what happens to you where you are, just let it go. Not everyone in this world is the same. Culture makes no differnce as well. You white people, black people, asian people are just as bad as hawaiians. I have my own experiences, you black people are so rude that just because we say a minor racial impact you can use the “black” excuse against us. Excuse me? I don’t think so. Also you whites, think you guys are perfect? Big LOL! I’d rather have kittens scratch my skin then put up with your pathetic reasoning and justification. I once asked a blonde “caucasian” (there you happy?) for directions once, and she replied,” What do I look like mapquest or something?” Lol. She’s lucky I didn’t rip the yellow off her white skin, her and her preppy little ipod in one ear and cell in the other…makes me sick how parents are letting their kids become this way.

In the end, noone is perfect. Trust me, I call people the N word and say Haole to white people (so what? I’m from the island, Got a Masters in buisness and work for one of the top brokerage companies in the world making 6 digits a year.) So ya, it doesn’t matter where you’re from. Just get over it. Someone calls you this or that, don’t tolerate with it, simply talk to the person, and if they don’t listen, ignore em because there is NOTHING that you can do that hasn’t been already done in this world. (Unless you kill em, i mean if you want to serve life in a federal pen then…why not?) So stop your BS with articles like this and putting up Nonsense posts about those who actually contribute to the world.

F**k all of you idiots,
plsdontbah8erty:)

Comment by plsdontbah8erty:) — August 3, 2009 @ 5:06 am

btw, about the whole “pidgen” language. lol. Atleast when we speak it, we can actually understand it. “Yo home dogs biscuit, I got this mean glock that imma pop a cap in that bitch’s ass for shizzle my nizzle? Word dawg.” That talk makes me sicks. Disgusting. “Y’all looking for sum fine looking delicious belly grub and a rootin’ tootin’ good time y’all hear? Mighty fine if y’all would get up and dance with them purty girls. Yeeehaawww!!!” Really? Now is that a way to respect woman? Think about it.”Ho you so good person yeah? (mumbles chinese/japanese/whatever) you come in. Go go. you like?” Excuse me? What? Who? How?

plsdontbah8erty:)

Comment by plsdontbah8erty:) — August 3, 2009 @ 5:13 am

wow, plsdontbah8erty, that has to be about the closet thing to verbal explosive diarrhea ive ever seen. feel better now? good, now please make like a rubber ball and BOUNCE…….

Comment by AdiosHI — August 3, 2009 @ 9:49 am

Hawaii sucks just as bad as some places on the mainland, racism flourishes just like on the mainland, and language/ pronounciation can be difficult to understand just like on the mainland. Hawaii is a small, crowded, mixed up island with history that still rubs raw no matter who is to blame or for what. As a mixed Asian/ white that looks white in Hawaii ,the treatment I am experiencing here is nothing new. In Texas, I have been treated just as rudely by Hispanic people for being white. In the U.S.’ southeast, white people hate on black and Hispanic people just the same. Drugs (like meth) and crime exist on the mainland just like in Hawaii. Hawaii is cramped and the rich, poor, and in-between overlap. The Ala Moana mall has the most expensive stores, but there are homeless people who try to take your food in the food court! Still, it is unfair to criticize another race or culture’s language or to attribute a drug like meth or crack primarily to one race. For example, we can say and shame Hawaii for its ugly faced meth users, but one of the whitest states in America, Oregon, has the same problem.

Comment by Aloha!/ Mahalo! — August 3, 2009 @ 2:23 pm

@ adios, obviously your a white person. That’s why i love new yorkers. :D

Comment by plsdontbah8erty:) — August 3, 2009 @ 4:26 pm

plsdontbah8erty:) LOL you’re a mother fucking dumbass. LOL

Comment by LOL — August 3, 2009 @ 10:44 pm

@LOL sad you have to make fun of another person’s comment and not the article. Grow up…oh wait a minute…i think i hear your mommy calling you to get your diaper changed. Nvm. xD

Comment by letslol@LOL — August 4, 2009 @ 1:09 am

“@LOL sad you have to make fun of another person’s comment and not the article”

i never noticed any other comments by you on here. what else are you contributing to the discussion except making fun of someone else’s comment?

Comment by AdiosHI — August 4, 2009 @ 10:02 am

LOL letslol@LOL. I have contributed to this article. Many times. Have you not read anything? Yea…what rock did you crawl out from under? LOL You should just go right back. :)

Comment by LOL — August 4, 2009 @ 12:58 pm

no, LOL, i was talking to letslol@LOL, and that was his quote i was referring to. i was trying to stick up for you….

Comment by AdiosHI — August 4, 2009 @ 1:59 pm

Oh, I was talking to letslol@LOL too AdiosHI. and thank you :)

Comment by LOL — August 4, 2009 @ 2:02 pm

God this conversation will never end will it? lol. It’s so funny how ppl hijack an article’s comments/forums. Thanks for the backup anyway letslol@LOL. I’m sure we’ve all got better things to do then these low-lifes who have nothing else to contribute to the world. “]

Comment by plsdontbah8erty:) — August 5, 2009 @ 12:52 am

@plsdontbah8erty

1. i dont think LOL was backing you up, but ill let her confirm that.

2. if youve got so many better things to do………..leave. that will also magically end the conversation which is obviously tiring you out so much, even though what youve been posting doesnt qualify as a conversation at any level beyond 3rd grade.

so if youre so frustrated by being on here, all you have to do is return to all those “better things” you are so busy doing. im sure the world just cant get by without the contributions you must be making to it, and besides you are contributing absolutely nothing to this board beyond insults. i wont call you a lowlife even though youve already met a few of the criteria. coming back with more of your crude caustic comments would definitely put you in that category, however, at this point.

Comment by AdiosHI — August 5, 2009 @ 9:54 am

i’ve lived in hawaii for all my life, and for most of this, i have to agree.

i speak with a perfect american accent. i look local, but whenever i open my mouth i get weird looks. then i tell them i attended school with a predominantly caucasian military dependents. after that i’m labeled “haole-fied.”

UH at manoa sucks. they lost my medical files i sent, and because of it i have to go tomorrow and get those copies in personally. BECAUSE OF THIS THERE IS A HOLD ON MY REGISTRATION.

oh yeah, the school year is about to start and only recently they have announced that the medical technology program is not accepting any new students in an effort to “cut costs.” DO WE REALLY NEED TO FUND SPORTS WHEN THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF MED TECHS THAT COULD TRAIN TO SAVE YOUR LIFE?

now i’m gonna have to transfer. they said take clases for med tech at KCC, but the bio classes are filled. i have probably transfer out of state next year and it probably will take another 4 years after that to graduate.

thanks for holding me back, UH.

Comment by screwed college student — August 10, 2009 @ 3:10 am

I couldnt have scripted it any better. My garage got broken into last night and my tools were stolen. I cant wait to get off of this third world, ghetto, overcrowded, run down, racist island.

Comment by needsajobinVA — August 10, 2009 @ 7:27 pm

By the way, that was the third time in the last two years (at two different houses) that I have been burglarized.

Comment by needsajobinVA — August 10, 2009 @ 7:29 pm

I encourage all White Americans to leave. The Hawaiians despise us.

The only way to make them pay is to drown them economically. Let them get there money elsewhere.

Comment by Chewie — August 10, 2009 @ 8:02 pm

What dictionary were you looking at? First the word is spelled Haole and it is a combination of 2 words uttered by native Hawaiians when they first encountered Captain Cook. The first part “ha” means breath and “ole” mean no. They were saying Ha ole due to the lack of pigmentation of Captain Cook and his crew. The native Hawaiians believed that a lack of color in there skin meant that they were dead or ghost like. Next time you want to cite from a book, make sure it was written by a person who actually studied Hawaiian Studies and knows the actual true meaning of Hawaii Olelo. Last if everyone on here hates Hawaii so much then leave go back to where you come from. It’s people like you that create animosity and hate. For those of us who are born and raised here whether you are native or not love Hawaii for what it is and not what people moving here want it to be. Every state has it’s problems and you either learn to adapt and overcome or LEAVE! Ignorance breeds ignorance. I feel sorry for people like you, unable to embrace the beauty of life but focus on negativity. It’s easy to hurt and criticize, anyone can do that but to praise and show compassion for your fellow man can take a lifetime to achieve.

Comment by Manu — August 11, 2009 @ 1:41 am

Many new comers or as we hawaiians refer to them “Malihini” tend to move to Hawaii with the dreams of a tropical paradise on a white sand beach while drinking their mai tais. What many do not understand is that many move here with a sense of entitlement because of where they are from and they have money to spend. They do not realize that Hawaii is like any other state in our nation. We have poverty, Murders, robbery, drugs, good people, bad people, racists, non racist. How many of you have seen on TV a place that captivated you and all you dream of is going there someday but when you get there, it’s not all that it seemed to be when you saw it on TV? The choices you make in your life, dictates the life you will lead….treat people the way you want to be treated, remember when mom and dad told you that? Don’t bunch a few bad apples with the majority of the good ones or we’ll all start to rot like the foul ignorant ones.

Comment by Manu — August 11, 2009 @ 1:59 am

Manu: I appreciate what you are saying, a lot of the expectations are unrealistic and i sense a lot of anger and hatred on this page as well that I think is unwarranted and unhealthy. However, I came here for school, not to follow some dream. I met my wife here and have tried to make it work so that she can be close to her family. I am involved in the community, and I love a lot of wonderful people out here. But the crime i continually experience and the hate that some people show towards me (without even knowing me) is making me bitter and resentful towards this place. Im not rich, i dont live in kahala, and i dont feel entitled. I ride a moped, work two jobs, and show respect to the people i meet. This site has just been an outlet for me to get some stuff off my chest. I dont mean to offend, most people in Hawaii are nice people. There just seem to be a whole lot more bad apples out here than back home or maybe I just notice it more because I am a part of a largely disliked minority in this state. If showing respect means treating people the way I wold want to be treated then I show respect everyday. But I feel like showing respect, to a lot of locals, means that if you are haole you need to shut the fuck up and act like a second class citizen.

ITs just my experience, and you are right… everyplace has problems. It is just time for me to leave, which I am trying to do but the recession is making it tough to find work. I hope that having one less hard working, involved in the community, tax paying, family oriented haole in the islands benefits the people (like Prof. Trask thinks it would). I may miss it and want to come back someday, but I doubt it. I suspect that visiting my in-laws once a year will be sufficient to remind me why I left.

Comment by needsajobinVA — August 11, 2009 @ 11:57 am

Hawaii isn’t half bad. I have been attending the University of Hawaii for two years now and I still love the place. There are definitely possiblities with the school and one’s future career. Furthermore, I have not had a professor who spoke pidgen(this is completely ridiculous, I can’t explain how ridiculous this is). The school is definitly credible. My friend from Texas did a semester over here and could barely pass his engineering classes(he seriously got D’s). In addition, took a calculus placement exam at UH and got all of the answers wrong, even though he has passed Calculus 3 at his regular University.

The downer about living in Hawaii can be the inflation in housing costs and the lack of choices if not rich. The apts. in Hawaii are way worse then the ones on the mainland(if you like decent living you will hate it; no bang for buck). People may be crooked but Hawaii has low crime and is always rated in the top five for quality of living. You can’t even get a gun in Hawaii without waiting a good three months. Obviously, there are worse places. Hawaii, is no doubt a middle market. So, its most popular industry at the time is travel. But, there are others and others to come.

Rasicm is everywhere, in every country and in every region(with the exceptions of the very very few around the world that has no racism at all). The majority of people are going to be racist because they are not worldly. And if they are, have bad history(give or take fifty or a hundered years) or are naively influenced by their surroundings, dont like listening to different peoples ideals and realities, the possibilities are endless. Truthfully, I am black and feel more comfortable around other minorities then in the south. However, this isn’t everybody. So, maybe racism is the majority but among what group of people(not just talking about race or country)? Lastly, the people who come to Hawaii and hate it immediately are also racist. They probably do not want to hear what the different cultures have to say and why they are saying it. And want life to be how they envisioned it and lived it their entire lives.

I didn’t want to write a lot but if you read this WOW! And sorry if I missed something because of ignorance.

“People are always blaming their circumstances for what they are. I don’t believe in circumstances. The people who get on in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want, and if they can’t find them, make them”
-George Bernard Shaw

Comment by John — August 12, 2009 @ 1:20 am

Im sorry Hellopeople. But, oh no a white person was killed. All hell has broken loose. The tragedies brought upon white people. It must be terrible. OK, now I am going to go cry for you.

snickers…..WEAK

Comment by haoleplease — August 12, 2009 @ 1:55 am

We recently visited Hawaii, and we thought it to be very expensive and we really did not have all that much fun. We spent a total of 10 days there and were bored after about 5. Our rental car was broken into and the seats were slashed/cut open, Why? After that we just wanted to go home. We did experience some rude behavior, wasn’t there long to say one way or the other if it was discrimination. We met several nice people, mostly military. Many expressed their hope to leave Hawaii and never come back, they introduced me to this site to better express their feelings about Hawaii. I feel bad for the military people that are “Stuck” there. I would think the people of Hawaii would treat them with more respect, but it appears they really don’t appreciate what they have. Too Bad…

Comment by Steve — August 12, 2009 @ 3:15 pm

wow, i come back to this message board after being a way for a week and it somehow looks SO familiar with the people from hawaii who can’t take criticism of the place AT ALL. how come when white people voice their outrage over racist acts toward them in hawaii, you hear almost all the “locals” say things like “if you don’t like it LEAVE”, such as this one by “manu”:

“if everyone on here hates Hawaii so much then leave go back to where you come from.”

hey manu, lets see you come over to the mainland. pick any place you like. somebody arranges for you to get the crap beat out of you while being called racial slurs, watch you call the cops, and when they come out they blame YOU for not respecting the local culture. how does that grab you? do you think you would change your tune about calling attention to the way you got treated, or would you simply “tolerate” it, accept that you “dont belong” and leave forever? i bet you would change your tune in a hurry.

man, all you racist locals in hawaii need to do now is put some brown cone headed hoods on (or red if you prefer the “hawaiian kingdom” fashion line) and march around honolulu with signs saying “go back where you came from, haole”. but see, you all dont cover your heads with hoods because the racism is so accepted there, you feel no need to hide your identities. even the cops have your backs…

the word “haole” means “no breath”, huh, manu? see and you assholes use that word instead of keokeo, which is the real hawaiian word for “white”. why is this? why dont you admit the word has racist negative connotations of “dead”, “corpse-like”, or “soulless”? thats why all you local bastards prefer to use the word “haole” instead of “keokeo”. now you know the truth about the word “haole”. IT IS A RACIAL SLUR. the only question is, are you ready to admit the truth?

well, are you?

Comment by AdiosHI — August 13, 2009 @ 6:49 pm

being white and in the military is sadly the most hated by the locals. I like the attitude of the people in Guam who are happy that we are there, but i guess since all the military does is provide protection, jobs, etc. makes us the bad guys. But if you had any common sense you would see that if the military pulled out you would most likely lose your jobs, all of the locally owned moving companies would shutdown, part of the Honolulu airports runway would be pulled up because it is military owned and we would shutdown all military bases. which in turn federal funding would cease and with result of all of this your economy would tank and you would be praying to your fire gods for help which hate to break it to you but they arent real. yes i am white and in the military.

Comment by HIsux — August 15, 2009 @ 2:50 pm

Hi everyone. Was looking through some of the comments and cam across some of them, just wanting to answer.

@ adiosHI
“what i still cannot understand is why the f.b.i. hasnt gone into hawaii and checked up on all the corruption. have they just decided its not important to find and convict all the racist lowlives abusing their authority there? has anyone ever reported it? why hasnt anything been done? i just dont see why with so many complaints on this board (and there are surely more who havent been counted), we havent seen any action taken by federal authorities. hawaii is still a state in the union, is it not? strange…”

“only someone who has not experienced the kind of racism that exists in hawaii, or worse, condones it, would make a statement like this. saying “there are racist people everywhere in this world”

As a former law enforcement officer who worked for both the Federal Bureau of Investigation and a local county/state police department (which i will not reveil), you clearly cannot see what I’ve been through. Yes, racism occurs in Hawaii. From my own experiences, I have been called Haole and sworn at, (i quite remember it too, the big-wide hawaiian guy with his other friends said ” eh wat you lookin’ at yo faka? i go lick you..” or something like that.) Back in 1996, my team and I were called in to investigate a hate crime. Apparently the offenders were minors, just teenagers and white mainland boy. Further in our investigation, we found that it was “Kill Haole Day” which occurs on the last day of school.

However, this is no where as bad as it gets in the states. Remember the Rodney King incident back in ‘92? Yup. We worked on the case alongside with LAPD IA department. Wanna see real racism? Try Compton. While I was working as a cop, i remember a case when a white women was robbed, beaten, and raped. Seeing the bruises on her face and chest made me furious. How could someone do this? She stated it was a couple of black mean. However, as you can tell by the location, the case went cold and still unsolved.

All i’m trying to get to at my point is there are people out there who are trying to stop racism. But as long as there’s hate…it will never end. It takes time to fix this problem. On average, the FBI reports 1.2 million hate crimes annually. Nearly a 1/4 gets solved. Man if there were any easier way (like blowing things up and shooting people on Televison) our job would be so simple. Unfortunately we all live in reality.

-Andrew Zimmerman
23 years of service.

Comment by 23 years... — August 18, 2009 @ 11:52 am

we shouldn’t have annexed them….BIG MISTAKE….

Comment by We should've left them alone... — August 18, 2009 @ 4:07 pm

Honolulu?

A city where people crap in the streets and beggars bully?

Where men dry hump each other in alleys? It smells like urine and fecal matter.

Are all Hawaiian men peodophiles and jotos? Do they know what a diet is?

Why do hawaiian men like little boys?

Comment by Miguel — August 19, 2009 @ 2:53 pm

Yep, Honolulu is by far the worst excuse for a city I’ve ever seen!

Comment by BCbound — August 19, 2009 @ 7:59 pm

I am guilty, I am a hawaiian, I must admit, we hate whites, my culture hawaiian men like to wear dresses and play with little boys. If you look at a Hawaiians clothes, you will find pink underwear and bras, we like girdles too. We are fat people.

Comment by haoleplease — August 20, 2009 @ 2:06 pm

I am glad I found this webpage….I moved to the big Island about 6 months ago and I have had to deal with discrimination and racsism almost every day. I didnt know if it was my imagination or not- so I started researching it online. I want to believe that if you treat people kind and with respect you will get that in return…but thats not the way it is here. Dont get me wrong…there are some very nice Hawaiian people….but it gets draining after awhile getting treated like dirt every day. I had a job that was all hawaiian and filipino…I was the only white guy. My boss would make up crazy reasons to write me up,he would give me overnight double shifts and if I said no I got in trouble. This went on until I quit…then he was all nice to me again. I tried to flag down a bus and the lady wouldnt even look at me…I had to run down the sidewalk until she stopped….then she yelled at me when I got on. But she was just as sweet as could be to any hawaiian kids who waved her down. Many jobs wont hire you if you are white, and God help you if you need something from the DMV. I had to retake the motorcycle test 4 times….and when I needed my airbrake certification…I had to wait weeks before the guy would even come out….and he kept failing me for crazy reasons…things that werent even in the training manual. These are just a few examples….I came to Hawaii looking forward to the “Aloha Spirit” But now I understand that it means “if you are not from here…we hate you”

Comment by J.W — August 23, 2009 @ 7:47 pm

Thank you for writing this article as I completely agree with you. This state really is not what it could be. Things just aren’t run well here and thats the bottom line. I was offered a job by a school over 3 weeks ago, my name was submitted to the DOE and I still have not gotten approval to start working. Something like that should never take more than a couple days. This place is a joke.

Comment by Mike — August 24, 2009 @ 3:42 pm

i read your post.
i understand a lot of your feelings about hawaii.
but i don’t think you really got down and met any local people while you were here.
you put down the homeless - i was homeless on the beach 2 years here.
would you have the balls to spend time on the beach, camping out, meeting local people?
it doesn’t sound like it.
you sound like a spoiled white kid who lives off a trust fund - every month there is money in your atm.
mummy and daddy always pay for your car, apartment, your pussy.(as if you can get any!!)
i think you are a mindless stupid coward who never had the balls to get close to hawaii.
hawaii doesn’t need racist, uneducated, ignorant assholes like you.
good riddance to you, fuckface asshole!!

Comment by john gibb — August 25, 2009 @ 5:25 am

I really am a douche bag. I love drugs. I love to steal from white people. I love to wear dresses and skirts.

Comment by john gibb — August 25, 2009 @ 1:04 pm

Hawaiian women…..

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MCBNSn1DlAU/Samcz2SDixI/AAAAAAAACCo/OPKIhlK6cWE/s400/obese-women.jpg

Comment by Hector Martinez — August 25, 2009 @ 1:09 pm

I can understand why the Hawaiin people hate the white man. But they need to understand that what is happening in Hawaii is just what the rich elite of this country and world want. The best way to destroy a culture or society is to have the people within that society destroy each other. This is the way it has been done since the beginning.
We need to stop fighting against each other and start fighting against the people who are destroying America and the world. These are the people who are intentionally destroying our economy and our way of life.
These are the people who start the wars and profit from them. We need to stop sending our sons and daughters to fight the white man’s wars.
There is a much bigger enemy out there and everyone needs to become aware of the danger they are facing.
The people of Hawaii are not dumb, if anything they are pretty smart. They understand the evil of the white man. But they need to know it is not the white man standing next to you in the grocery store or your white neighbor who you need to fear.
Get informed and understand what is happening. Do the research at least and form your own opinion.
Research infowars.com (ALEX JONES) Understand that there is a small group of white men who control this country and this world. These are the “haoles” that we need to stand up against and fight, not each other.
Watch the movies Terror Storm, The Obama Deception and End Game and find out about the white men who we really need to hate.

Comment by Deborah — August 26, 2009 @ 9:22 am

hawaii is very racist and full of stupid people. lived there for 10 years and agree with you. really no aloha for anybody expect for the racist locals

Comment by mokey — August 27, 2009 @ 8:42 pm

Man, I thought I was the only one who hated it here. I have been here in Hawaii for going on four years. And I swear, everyday I hate it more than the last. And it isn’t like I don’t fit in appearance-wise because I am part Filipino, Portuguese, Chinese, etc. It’s the simple things that bother me the most: Like the weather, its always HOT. Even in the winter, its never cold. And though it rains, it never thunderstorms, which I used to love. And the seasons, I miss them. It feels like I’m trapped where things don’t change. And I really just want to drive and drive, but the ocean gets in the way. And the houses are like two feet away from each other. I swear I can here my neighbors breath. And Dogs . . . I don’t know if any state is as canine crazy as Hawaii, but I would like just one day without hearing some ankle biting mutt barking when the wind blows.

And as far as the people being racist (and I know what that is. I’m originally from the south), they are. It’s not the fact that “officially” Haole doesn’t mean anything more than foreigner/white. I have had people be extremely rude to me ( I have a mainland accent) just from my voice. When people use words in derogatory ways, the word become derogatory. And for the island language Pidgin, I really find it annoying and harsh. I can’t understand it in the least.

And the cost of living.. . crazy ridiculous. Buying a house is impossible. And renting price is out of this world. The electricity is so crazy that a/c are impossible to afford.

I know one thing: as soon as I finish my degree and have some money, I am outta here. That’s all. Just wanted to put in something.

Comment by Kristina — August 28, 2009 @ 6:03 pm

I’m callin’ it like I see it:

A.L.O.H.A.= A Lot Of Hostile Assholes. lol…my hubby came up with that one..I put together this one: Arrogant, Lazy, Overdone, Hostile, Apathetic. lol…okay, so Hawaii isn’t the BEST place to live. I grew up here…I KNOWWWW what I’m talking about…The locals here have a very “fishbowl” mentality, having not seen or done enough outside of their little island life to get a full grasp on the world out there. And what’s with this VEGAS thing? What’s so fuckin’ great about Vegas, besides the fact many a local person just likes to eat, or “graze” non-stop, and have mindless entertainment so they don’t have to think or appreciate anything, typical of how non-progressive this state is..so slow and backwards, like a 3rd world country.

It’s ingrained in their heads to “hate” haoles from childhood. They’re raised to think of white people as “trash”, “arrogant”, “dirty”, “thieves”, and so on…reality is LOCAL people are the EXACT representation of this most times. The MOKES are anyway…they’re what I call “Brown Trash”. They’re unintelligent and prejudiced, and regardless of what they think, they are not self-respecting individuals by the way they ACT. Many local people just do not carry themselves well…they are crass, slow in the head, always seem to angry about something, and just real jackasses and morons..the women are not very attractive-they carry themselves like cheap ass whores with bad attitude and sour faces-not very marketable…yet they gussy themselves up for the mall so they can flaunt their shit, only to be thought of as stupid and ugly because they don’t have much else to offer besides their pussy. The fat ones are really gross. Seeing a double-wide person wearing spandex will ruin any appetite and they spit when they talk..at least it sounds like they do…so gross.

And the males are like jungle animals, so barbaric and crude..not to mention, unattractive. They don’t have any class at all, no nothin’, except grunting like cavemen trying to impress girls with no brains by their souped up little cars, and stupid lookin’ trucks..ick. “Me tough guy, uggghhh”…”look at my truck, ugghhhh”…”I go buss you up fucka!”…SOLID BRAH…lol. Retards…so barbaric…might as well live in the jungle. Yet they think they are “so much better”…well, it DOESN’T show…get real…lol.

No wonder local people “hate” mainlanders…they’re the EXACT opposite of what they are. That’s good in a way…it means a clearer distinction between the two. :-)

I’ve always been different, and I don’t give a shit what local people think…yes, I happen to be Asian, but I feel offended by the racism here, especially against my white friends-it’s so obvious and stupid, and ingrained in people’s heads here…there are some black people that have written comments in favor of Hawaii…well, obviously they feel more at ease in Hawaii because they are not being targeted…they know what it’s like to be targeted, and they know it’s not right to be so narrow minded and ignorant, so their opinion is biased, of course. They get treated different here than anywhere else on the mainland perhaps, and of course, they like it…but, GET REAL…not all white people are raised to be racist biggots like local people here are…

In 5 years or so my family plans to move to the Pac NW where, to me, it truly is a “paradise”. People in Hawaii are so narrow minded they make a huge deal about the rain and the weather…oh brother..fishbowl mentality..they’re just afraid of what’s different and of being discriminated against…they prefer to be the ones to discriminate and be narrow minded on their little island because it’s “safe” for them…sad scenario…oh well…it is what it is…they are what they are…gross….I’m too smart for this place…it’s way too backward…my sister moved to Oregon for similar reasons…just can’t stand it here. So, I hear ya people! :-D Don’t worry…just take what you can get from Hawaii and move on…hopefully sooner than later.

Comment by relieved — September 1, 2009 @ 2:35 am

I will add to the above these fundamental truths:

“You don’t have to be crude to be down to earth, and you don’t have to be stuck up to have class.”

“You don’t have to be arrogant to have self-esteem, and you don’t have to be sub-standard to be humble.”

The “turn a blind eye” and “no make waves” mentality of people here create the non-progressive atmosphere we have, and feeds the prejudice because very few seem to be smart enough to break free from that mentality, choosing to be closed minded and hostile in order to “fit in” with the local crowd…there is also “stupid by association” too…some may not act out their prejudice, but they think it, AND they allow it to happen because of fear that they’ll be targeted if they speak out…hence the “nuting you can do”, “das da way it is brah” attitude of omission, which conveniently excuses them from having to think on their own and make a choice…pfft…yeah, that’s the way it is when you’re a moron who’s afraid to stand on your own two feet and think for yourself whether something is right or wrong…we either create our own reality, or we let others create it for us……I create MY OWN reality.

Hey, I’ve gotten weird looks before from white people when I’m out of town, but I know it’s because they can tell I’m not from around there…the percentage of that happening is VERY small considering all the places I’ve been fortunate to travel to(which has helped IMMENSELY and is an ABSOLUTE NECESSITY living on a small isolated island in the middle of the ocean). The VAST majority are VERY polite, and are offended if YOU think they are prejudiced…that’s called “reverse prejudice” when you assume someone will not like you so you treat them unfairly making them feel like the target of prejudice. People on the mainland in most places I’ve been to are NICER than people here, in general…that’s for damn sure! lol The ones that gave me weird looks were more territorial than anything else because the other Asians who lived there weren’t given a second look…I stood out, but I never retaliated and started treating others like assholes because of it…I just remained very polite and open, acknowledging this was their territory and their culture and I adapted…it made all the world of difference…..here…unfortunately even if white people try to do the same they still get treated unfairly and prejudged because of their skin color…automatically…it’s pathetic…and NO, it doesn’t make sense to talk about “haoles” as bad, and yet CERTAIN white people as good…haole is the accepted term for white people, and when you say “haole” it means ALL white people, whether you mean it or not…goes back to the ingrained hate mentality people here are raised with against whites…asian foreigners, pacific islanders, blacks, mexicans, greeks, etc. etc. can move here and we would welcome them with open arms because culturally it’s “fascinating”…BUT…when the whites come in they are automatically BAD, even if they are model citizens that contribute to the community! So fucked up….Hawaii needs an ENEMA. lol

Comment by relieved — September 1, 2009 @ 10:44 am

Haole is a racial slur. I dont care what the smooth talking hawaiians on here try to tell you about captain cook being pale like a ghost or a god and that is just what white people are called. Captain cook was killed, he bled, they saw him bleed, they know he was a human and was alive. To call a group of people Ha ole (without the breath of life) is a fucking insult. The is a show at the polynesian cultural center right now called Ha-Breath of life

http://www.habreathoflife.com/

thats what we supposively dont have… the breath of life.

Although there often is animosity attached to the word (frickin haole, fuckin haole, goddamn haole etc…)I will admit that many locals use it simply as a term to describe the white man and often has no animosity attached. But that doesnt remove the fact that it is a racial slur. I am tired of people saying “eh, haole boy…” If I start calling all my mexican neighbors wetbacks but dont say it in a mean way, just use it to describe them, it is still a racial slur. Thats why I call them by their names instead, I figure since they have names I might as well use them. If I dont know their name I say excuse me sir, or hi braddah, or whatever greeting you like and then I find out their name.

I have actually been here long enough now that I have figured out the system. They like “humble” haoles. And by humble I mean that you kiss their ass all the time and tell them how wonderful hawaii is and how nice the people are and how much better it is than the mainland. Humble haole also means that you dont have opinions on things, because they have their way of doing it and dont want your “mainland” ideas becuase you are not “local” so you dont understand. And humble haole also means that if you go bar, or go surf, and some of the locals decide they dont want you there and start eyeing you out… you shut the fuck up and leave. Otherwise you will get your ass kicked by 10 people even though it is just one or two of you.

Its such a shame, there are a lot of great things and wonderful people out here. And once you make personal relationships with them most are very nice. But make no mistake, if you dont look local, talk local, act local, or at least hang out with locals… you will be discrimitated against in very obvious ways. Not saying everyone is bad, or even the majority is bad… but there are a lot of bigots and they seem to have no problem voicing their dislike of outsiders, particularly white ones.

Comment by Man with local wife — September 1, 2009 @ 6:16 pm

You summed it up very accurately “Man with local wife”. The “humble haole”, or rather the “put up or shut up haole” is what the local bigots tolerate…and I do acknowledge that not ALL people raised here are prejudiced…I certainly am not…I just hate “stupid people”…so I AVOID them. There is a unspoken “conspiracy” to hate white people in Hawaii because of the history of the Big 5 and how Hawaii lost their monarchy to the white man…but, it was THOSE white people in particular that did all that…they’ve just transferred their hate to ALL white people because of what a few did in the past…can’t change what was done…I don’t go screaming at white people because they put my ethnicity in concentration camps during WWII…it’s past history and what’s done is done…kingdoms rise and fall…it’s part of the way of the world.

What is sad to see is that many Hawaiian people do not try better themselves and prefer to have the victim mentality and wait for hand-outs and hate those that actually work hard for what they have, be it whites, asians or whatever…they have a substandard attitude towards life in general, and so do the other ethnicities that have allowed this apathy and victim mentality infect their brain…they hate those that have more than them and blame them for all their misery…but, the reality is that their own laziness and apathy has caused their present plight…the Hawaiians don’t seem to be able to agree amongst themselves, so how in the hell are they gonna accomplish ANYTHING when all they do is bicker?? It was only a matter of time before other ethnicities moved here…look at the history of the world…land was discovered, claimed, ethnicities mixed, fought, some died out…it goes on and on and continues to go on and on. Take what advantages you have now and stop being bitter about the past…Hawaiians have many benefits available to them that other ethnicities don’t have right now, yet they still claim they are treated unfairly…the whites could’ve killed all of you and wiped all of your genetic lines out…then you wouldn’t have anything to complain about. But, you have opportunities available to you…too bad many of them just complain and waste all their energy on hate, instead of making the best of what is.

Comment by relieved — September 1, 2009 @ 10:35 pm

Hawai’i doesn’t suck! You suck! Hawai’i is way better and safer than the mainland! You probably just saying that cuz you one haole!
I could tell you were right when you said that…

Comment by Ena — September 2, 2009 @ 4:25 pm

Ena Said…”Hawai’i doesn’t suck! You suck! Hawai’i is way better and safer than the mainland! You probably just saying that cuz you one haole!
I could tell you were right when you said that…”

That sums it up right there why a lot of people hate it out here.

Hawaii is way better and safer than the mainland. WTF is the mainland and what do you know about it to make that kind of statement? There are 300million people in the “mainland”. There are 45 cities alone in the “mainland” that have larger populations than honolulu. YOu have no idea what the fuck you are talking about and I know that because if you did, you would not have made that statement. Have you been to every state? Every city? Do you think that Minneapolis is anything like Miami? Do you think that San Diego is anything like Boston? Why do many people in Hawaii refer to the entire continental united states like it is another island??? Because they are ignorant and have not been there but like to make assumptions based on tourists, young military guys, and what they see on TV. The “mainland” is the most asinine term I have ever heard. It provides no useful information aside from telling us that it is not Hawaii. I actually like Honolulu but I am sick and tired of hearing how much better it is than the “mainland” from a bunch of people that have been to Seattle and Vegas at best. Not to mention when they go to vegas, they all stay in the California Hotel and hang out with other people from Hawaii.

Comment by Man with local wife — September 2, 2009 @ 5:42 pm

Relieved. I agree with you 100%, there is a lot of blame to go around when it comes to greed and exploitation of the islands. But it sure as hell wasnt the haoles that are working two jobs to pay for their overpriced, cockroach infested apartments like the rest of the people that live out here. Plus, there are like 20 different Hawaiian Nation movements and none of them can agree on anything. Do they want to go back to living hte old ways? No car, no TV, no spam? Thats fine if they do but I dont get the impression that many Hawaiians want to give up all that stuff. And if you want to keep that stuff, you need an economy based on something. And hawaii doesnt have much besides tourism or agriculture to sell so those are the options. And dont get me started about how Kamehameha threw all the Hawaiians off the Pali when he “united” hawaii using cannons and other technology from the Haole man.

Second, the idea of race is a joke, everyone is mixed it just depends what criteria you use and how far back you want to look. It is funny to me how every person that looks white is Haole out here but if you are Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese you aren’t considered just Asian. WTF is that? White people have cultures too, in america and europe.

As far as the internment camps go, that was some messed up stuff. The united states put german immigrants in camps during WW2 as well but Im not all pissed off about it either. They were at war with Japan and Germany, I dont agre with it but I can see what their motivation may have been.

Comment by Man with local wife — September 2, 2009 @ 5:55 pm

I’ve lived here for a bit over 2 years and my biggest problem with Hawaii is the lack of respect for the miltary men who are fighting in Iraq for their retarded asses. BUT! that does not stop me from enjoying Hawaii….it’s a fun place if you know how to take advantage of it. You should hold your head up high here, white, black, or hispanic….whatever, we all have the right to be here just as much as them because if it weren’t for us, they’d all still be praying to the volcano Gods and running around a camp fire speaking gibberish!

Comment by Wife of Army Pilot — September 2, 2009 @ 10:19 pm

So sad that living here my whole life I never once heard of the Manahune. Until my Hawaiian Ethnobotany class. My part-Hawaiian teacher told us that the small people we hear about in legend- the Menehune- actually refer to a people who were here before the Hawaiian- the Manahune. Sad that while we focus so much on what others have done do us, we forget what we have done to others.

Comment by people — September 4, 2009 @ 8:42 am

Yes, what “Man with Local wife” said is very true about the “mainland”…it is used as a colletively convenient term for the local people because to them, it is a big mass of land where the “rest” of the United States lives, aside from our little chain of islands…we’re so isolated out here it’s easy to lose touch with the rest of the world.

BUT, very true that to generalize the “mainland” is an ignorant thing to do because it really depends on WHERE you go up there!! Some places are MUCH better than here in my opinion, weather/people wise, and other places, i.e. L.A. and Detroit, are much crazier…you have your ghetto, your affluent, your small towns, your urban cities, etc. etc..it just depends where you go, and NO, VEGAS is NOT the sum-all of the mainland, where the rest of the local people congregate for “safety” reasons so they won’t be “targeted” by the “evil haoles”. LOL…..so primitive in their thinking and reasoning.

I have a friend in Tennessee right now who lived here for a couple years and he says that his white friends get MORE offended than the non-whites when he makes racial jokes(he’s got an acidic sense of humor), but you would think it’d be the other way around…as my sister put it in Oregon, they strive to be more “politically correct” because they don’t want to offend anybody…YET, in Hawaii…shit, racial slurs fly left and right…in ANY etnicity you are going to have your bad apples, but you cannot lump them all into ONE category merely because of what a few did…and yes, everyone seems to have variations in their ethnic background these days…I don’t know too many white people that don’t have some form of American Indian in them..:-)

Stop generalizing and get out there and see the world more, and I don’t mean VEGAS!! Human beings are pretty much the same wherever you go…we all have basic needs and desires, and one of the most fundamental desires/needs is RESPECT. But, you have to earn it, and you do that by treating others respectfully….it’s a “what goes around comes around” kind of cycle…but local people out here don’t seem to be able to grasp that fundamental truth….really slow and backwards…

Comment by relieved — September 5, 2009 @ 12:39 pm

I’m white (half Scotish, half German)living in Houston, over the last year I’ve been obsessed with Hawaii with intentions to live there, di alot of research talked to ccurrent residents…Never heard anything bad untill I came across this page…Now I am somewhat crushed, hearing about the racism…I knew about the other stuff but for someone who adored the place…I feel as though somone has stabbed me in the back 150 times over….Wow. :*( Thank you all residents of the 50th state for your stereotypes and your…I even spent the last 2 years making this: http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=597582

Wow just wow.

Comment by Mr. sad — September 6, 2009 @ 10:10 pm

Mr. Sad, that park looks awesome and I certainly dont want to help discourage anyone from chasing their dreams. Remember, the internet is full of a lot of people ranting about things they are pissed off about. I have been here 7 years now, I like it and I wouldnt say that it sucks just that you have to take it for what it is. There are states I have liked more, and a lot of states I have liked less. There are just certain attitudes and certain things about living here that you may or may not have a hard time dealing with. And for a lot of whites in particular, being a relatively disliked minority seems to be difficult to adjust to. Especially in this day an age where caucasians are so sensitive to not offending anyone.

Comment by Man with local wife — September 8, 2009 @ 2:05 pm

Could be worse, look whats going on in Buffalo, NY.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/07/new.york.beating/index.html

Comment by Man with local wife — September 8, 2009 @ 2:08 pm

Yeah, you got that right…Feeling a bit better from the intial shock of reading this. I’m also in contact with about 8 residents who know each other (met one then met his friends) and we talk, I spoke about this with them as well…I think that forum thread mentions that, I have ambitions to be a tour pilot for Blue Hawaiian, I wonder, Thinking about contacting them and seeing what I need to do as I finish highschool in order to make that ambition happen…Maybe they can help. :P

Comment by Mr. sad — September 8, 2009 @ 8:20 pm

plsdontbah8erty:) Get over yourself man. You don’t know black folks. I have met rude locals as well. Although a majority are kind people. I would say that you need to get off this da*^ rock and experience other places. Its best you use the “N” here in the islands because if you try that in the mainland to the wrong brotha it’s going to be “cracks” for dayz…go try and see.

Comment by BLKINHAWAII — September 10, 2009 @ 11:22 am

Williona wrote “U r correct. I live in the South, and I have also lived in Honolulu, and the Southern people are so much nicer, to my surprise. They are very friendly and decent, respectful people over here. I always assumed Hawaii people were the nicest since I kept hearing Aloha Spirit and Hawaiian Style…etc etc… But, truth is, Honolulu people are very rude and obnoxious.”

thank you for saying that. I dont understand why but I have heard over and over agian how “local people” are so much nicer than “mainland people” and “local style” is so much better than “mainland style”. Then when I tell them they dont know what they are talking about they get mad at me… its like I have to denounce any love of where I came from to get accepted out here.
My wife was astonished when she came to virginia with me. I had white neighbors, black neighbors, filipino neighbors, mexican neighbors, puerto rican neighbors (the navy is huge there so there is a lot of ethnic diversity)… and we all got together and shot hoops, drank beers, and shot the shit (talk story) with each other. I told her that we grew up like that, all of us went to the same high school, used to play after school together, and our families all know each other. She was really surprised. It is like there is some propaganda machine in the islands that wants them to believe everyone in the “mainland” is racist isolationists and only “local people” are friendly, accepting, and have aloha. She wants to move now, she said tidewater VA made honolulu look like a third world country with the run down buildings, overcrowded housing, questionable construction, homeless problem, and high cost of living.

This is so true. It’s like some locals here want to have a monopoly on kindness here, but I can spot fakers. It has been my experience that alot of people here complain alot..especially at work. No sense of professionalism or duty. Thats why I’m leaving. But there are alot of good kind hearted people as well. I’m just calling it staright down the middle and being fair.

Comment by BLKINHAWAII — September 10, 2009 @ 11:29 am

sorry i just got an email response from this site so decided to check it out( haven’t visited in about 3 weeks or so :P)

@BLKINGHAWAII

Boy are you stupid. Did you not read all of what i typed or did the education system fail to teach you how to read at all, where you come from? (sad) Yes I’m from the islands but am currently living in New York (upper manhattan to be exact) I’ve been living here for 6 years now for my job. (brokerage) I have a lot of “African American” friends here, as a matter of fact a few of my coworkers i drink with sometimes at the local bar are African-American (since it seems to offend you). So don’t tell me shit if you don’t know shit as well.

Comment by plsdontbah8etry:) — September 14, 2009 @ 4:12 am

hawaii and all its inhabitants are crap there is absolutely nothing good about hawaii. Those so called hawaiians who hate white people so much dont even respect there own culture and would rather dress up like gangsters and try to act black. Hawaiian culture and the mana of this once great land are dead, it has been replaced by hate, distrust and ignorance the hawaiian race will die out soon and will be forgotten along with the islands that will eventually sink into the ocean. REAL TALK! this is coming from a someone who was born and raised in waianae

Comment by makahaboi91 — September 15, 2009 @ 3:26 pm

One thing i find so funny about Hawaii is their language. I remember one time at waikiki beach, two lifeguards were arguing when all of a sudden, I heard him say ” What, i go’ lick his ass.” At first, i thought it was a gay expression till one of my friends( who live on the island) told me to fight with someone. It was fricking hilarious. xD I laughed all the way back to my hotel room.

Comment by CaliboiSD92057 — September 16, 2009 @ 12:11 pm

Here are your sweet aloha hawaiians

Comment by army pilot wife — September 21, 2009 @ 2:12 am

I think this blog is spot on! Nothing could be further from the truth.

Comment by Hates Hawaii Big Time — September 21, 2009 @ 9:27 pm

Roads are the worst we’ve seen anywhere.

Comment by Hawaii Roads Are Terrible — September 21, 2009 @ 9:30 pm

Hmm…in response to Mr. Sad…don’t be “sad”…:-) We’re just saying it like it is here…it’s good for you to know what’s going on in the islands and the mentality of the people IN GENERAL, because that is the environment you’d be exposing yourself to if you do move here. And it IS a shame it is that way, but it IS true..these comments are based on FACT, not advertising propaganda. However, it sounds like you’re very smart…I like what you did with that computer generated park! That’s awesome!! You could be a real asset to Hawaii…now, there are a lot of under-educated people who live here that don’t necessarily appreciate anybody who is more educated and does well for themselves. BUT, if Hawaii is your dream, then I would say pursue it, because if you can achieve good things for yourself here you can live amongst the nicer communities that aren’t so exposed to the riff raff, although they’re everywhere, but are more condensed in places like Kalihi, Waianae, and Waimanalo. They’re the ones we are complaining about…the “mokes” as we call them here. But, there are others who live here that are nice people. Every place has it’s ups and downs, and it’s low lives, but if that’s what you dwell on that’s all you’ll see.

I’ve vented a lot here because it’s the only place I can go to where others understand what I’m talking about and they’re tired of the idiots who live here too…Hawaii is quite behind the times and many island natives wanna keep it that way…so, I will move on eventually to a more progressive state. But, pursue your dreams, and remember, there’s no place “absolutely perfect”…it’s more or less what you’re willing to deal with to have what really matters MOST to you. Best of luck!!

Comment by relieved — September 22, 2009 @ 1:02 am

I’ve lived in Hawaii for 8 months now, and I have really tried to be a part of the culture and attitude of Hawaii, but I would never go to the depths of hatred and disrepect that many of the Hawaiins exhibit everyday.

I work the commissary, yes I am a military wife. I have also worked retail for 20 years and I have never run into outright hatred like I have run into here. This has been the worst retail job I have ever had. The people who run the commissary here are all locals and they think I am stupid and treat me as such. There are rules that they are supposed to follow, but they don’t. I get dirty looks and openly lied to almost everyday. Its horrible here. The customers are just as mean. I am a cashier. I had one women ask me if I was a caucasion. I said yes, she said I was bad and waited in line for another cashier-a local. People do this a lot.

Being from the mainland, I was pretty excited to be moving to Hawaii. For some reason, I really thought things would be all “Aloha,” but what I find was outright hatred. I have never lived in such a place where the people of the place were so rascist, and yet had not idea of how rascist they really were.

“Haole” is a derogatory term, and if you say that it is not, I will understand because I think most of the locals have no idea how unacceptable their rascism is in other civilized areas of the world. I think this has to do with their schooling which I have heard many times is horrible. This is from actually students in the system. It is sad when a parent is worried about going back to the states and having her nine year old daughter being so far behind that she is going to be put back a grade or two.

Hawaii is not civilized. It is dirty and mean and careless. Overall, I would say that the thought of Hawaii is a urban myth like any other urban myth and really should be debunked.

The food here is fucking disgusting. One person mentioned that you can’t go to any hole in the wall and get food. Well, believe it or not, in other places you can actually go to smaller resturants and get good food and you dont pay 3* too much for it too! IHOP shouldnt be the best restuarant around.

I thought driving in San Antonio was bad, all “Grand Theft Auto IV” and all, but nothing compares to driving in Hawaii. I dont know wHere all of the Hawaiins learned how to drive, but it all must be from the same place because, all Hawaiins drive very badly.

Hawaaiins say leave, well, I say I cant wait 2.3 years and I will leave gladly. I will also do everything I can to debunk the myth of Hawaii. I have many pictures already and I write down my experiences all the time. I should have several books before I leave.

What’s really sad is I have met some nice people here–even some nice locals. The problem is that the people who are really mean are so mean that they seem to outnumber the people who arent.

Comment by Armywifemela — September 29, 2009 @ 8:37 pm

I suppose I ought to continue under the name Mr. sad haha, wish I had not put that down now haha…And yeah from reading these comments I figured that stuff relieved, but the encouragement is nice…I actually learned a litte pidgin from my friends over there so I yeah I’m aware, they were telling me somthing about a group of Mokes and a Mcdonald’s once which was paticularly memorable.

For the moement I still intend to try and get a career from Island Air or Blue Hawaiian or someone simular. If it does not work out it should not be too much of a setback I don’t think…This actually makes me wish though for the firs time that I was another ethnicity. I really am past everything, don’t mind the cost of living but as I said before to be potentially treated like crap when I spend so much time trying to learn the language and it’s creole version…actually, on the subject of actually benifiting the Islands, I did put some thought into wanting to be a youth pastor or somthing, now I feel like I’m giving away alot of random information, there are reasons for that ambition too.. (And unlike with the catholic church they do not involve touching little children so don’t even think that :P)

Well I’ve said enough for now…

Comment by Mr. sad — October 1, 2009 @ 8:13 pm

i have lived in hawaii for over 10 years and i am here to say that every thing that i agree with what was said about hawaii this is a place where the corruption has gone on for so long that people now think that it is a part of the coulture and not only is that sad but also scary. people who are white get beaten up for bing a f****** haole where in the main land people would be jailed for hate crimes but here in hawaii it is all ok it is like living on the wild west but there are no good cow boys to help the people who need it

Comment by thornrose — October 2, 2009 @ 9:35 pm

WHITE PEOPLE TOOK FROM THE HAWAIIANS= TRUE

HAWAIIANS TOOK FROM THE MANAHUNE (THE PEOPLE WHO WERE HERE BEFORE THEM 2000 YEARS AGO)= TRUE

NOW HAWAII IS WHAT IT IS. ANOTHER CYCLE WILL COME AND GO. LANDS WILL EXCHANGE HANDS AGAIN AT SOME POINT. OH WELL, ITS DONE AND ITS TIME TO MAKE THE BEST OF WHAT YOU HAVE OR GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE. LIVING HERE MY WHOLE LIFE I WOULD SAY THOSE WHO ARE STUCK ARE THE ONES WITH LITTLE EDUCATION, LOW SKILLS, LOW PAYING JOBS, AND BAD ATTITUDES. EVERYONE ELSE SEEMS TO BE DOING GOOD. I WISH SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO AREN’T DOING SO WELL WOULDN’T TAKE IT OUT ON EVERYONE ELSE.

Comment by people — October 3, 2009 @ 8:35 pm

You think Hawaiians are bad?

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/08/nyregion/08bias.html

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/black-man-attacked-courtenay-bc-white-racists

www.datzhott.com/man-attacked-by-racist-cops/

http://www.naar.org.uk/newspages/070125.asp

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King

….wait! the list goes on!

www.yikers.com/video_racists_walk_around_town_and_beat_up_mexicans.html

YouTube - Mexican immigrant beaten and killed by small town …

www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=511821

oh i liked this one…
Rich White Male Kills 26 Japanese Tourists.
http://blamebush.typepad.com/blamebush/2006/02/rich_white_male.html

Rape of women during wartime
www.religioustolerance.org/war_rape.htm

…and the list goes on and on! wait! just enter hate crimes on google! theres more!

(so think next time b4 u start linking websites…)
way to go white people! you guys are so good at this, keep it up! ^.^

Comment by B4 u get all "hippity dippity" — October 4, 2009 @ 2:18 pm

Born and raised on the mainland, I’ve vacationed a few times in Hawaii and thought wouldn’t it be nice to move there some day. Started doing some reading and was quite shocked to find out how racists most people who live in Hawaii are. I doubt it could every happen, but it sure would be great if they could become there own nation again. They could then fight amongst themselves as to who’s a Hawaiian, who’s a local and who gets what. As a US citizen I could pay less taxes for all the welfare programs they create. It would be a win win.

I was also shocked finding out about the “Kill Haole Day”. Could you imagine what would happen if there was a “Kill a Hawaiian Day” on the mainland?! I’m guessing the “Kill Haole Day” will end one of these days with the mainland tradition called “Columbine Day”.

Comment by Mainlander — October 6, 2009 @ 6:29 pm

I love to visit Hawaii, esp. Maui, Kauai and the big island. It’s sooo beautiful, but I wouldn’t ever want to live there. I’m half Spanish and half Italian (insert joke here, if you want to), I’m dark and cute and I never get hassled in HI or anything. But I see and hear plenty of rudeness from the locals whenever I visit. Every. Single. Time.

Last time I was in Maui, a tourist asked a local merchant how to get to Lahaina and the guy told her “You can’t get there from here.” The lady started laughing bc she thought he was joking, and then he got downright hostile towards her. “You gotta take a cab, lady.” Very mean, like he didn’t even want to deal with her at all. You can say he was having a bad day, or was sick of answering that particular question. But I swear, I see this kind of interaction all the time in HI, always directed only towards white people.

I go there to relax on the beach and enjoy the beauty of nature. I respect people, I don’t trash the place, and I’m happy to come home when I leave.

Hawaii needs to insert a siesta in the day’s schedule. You know, in the hot afternoons, everyone should go home to eat, take a nap, get a break from the sun. Take a shower or make love. It’d do you all a world of wonders.

The “aloha” version of Hawaii is a myth. Just like if you go to San Francisco, you will not find peace-loving hippies. If you go to New York City, you will not get mugged by junkies. People in SF and NYC can be abrupt or snobbish, but people are mostly nice - for some reason HI is worse. It’s so sad, because “Aloha” is such a beautiful myth, you really wish it were true.

Comment by Que Si — October 7, 2009 @ 7:06 pm

To B4 u get all “hippity dippity”:

So your response to people complaining about being discriminated against is to highlight all the atrocities performed by white people against minorities over the years?? WTF is that supposed to prove? There is no culture void of these types of things, that does not excuse when it happens to someone currently. Japanese raping and torturing Koreans and Chinese, Canibalism of enemies in Polynesia, Nazi’s, Africans selling their captured slaves to Europeans all occurred also… but that doesnt mean that every Japanese, Polynesian, or African person is bad. Give me a break. You contributed nothing to this conversation, just provided more of the “anti-haole” hatred that permeates these islands. A google search on hate crime is obviously going to turn up more hits on caucasians because the term “hate crime” and the “hate crime” laws were invented to protect minorities in a country with a white majority.

Secondly, it is not just the “Hawaiians” people are complaining about. At least the Hawaiians have some legitimate gripes since this is their home land for the last couple thousand years. It is directed at anyone in the islands that chooses to stereotype caucasians and deliberately make us feel like outsiders unless we kiss the locals asses and constantly tell them how much Hawaii is better than the “mainland”. Many of us are here not by direct choice and would merely like to be treated with the same respect that any other human being would get.

People on the forum are talking about specific events that happened to them, not pulling up random links about a person with brown skin attacking a person with white skin. Please dont try to minimize those experiences. If you think the white man is the devil and just want to openly be a bigot that is your perogative, but dont act like posting some random links about hate crimes makes the way locals treat “haoles” justified. We are all individuals and should be treated as such.

Comment by Man with local wife — October 8, 2009 @ 4:59 pm

I agree, it does suck, enough said…very corrupt and if you like it then, great…stay…but you also have a right to voice what you do not like and make changes…

Comment by Snipes — October 14, 2009 @ 1:50 pm

Yeah, that is why I left. I never hand any problems with locals as far as being caled out my name, but I am 6′2 250, not to brag or boast, but I don’t get the “you like beef” stares that my white brothers and sisters get from the locals.

My problem with Hawaii was the boastfulness of locals there. Its like you had to say, “the mainland is bad” in order to fully be accepted to some extent. I grew up in the mainland and that is where I’m from. hawaii is a great place, but I’m not going to say the heck with the mainland just to appease a couple of people, that may have never left the island, or people that haven’t been pass Colorado.

Locals are real clickish and if you are not local, forget about getting a decent job. If you are not Japanese, forget about working for the city or state, unless you would like to do manual labor. This is nothing wrong with manual labor, but in Hawaii that doesn’t pay the bills.

Which leads me to another reason why Hawaii left a bad taste in my mouth; “the wages are terrible” and everything is expensive. Glad I left.

Comment by wasblkinHI — October 14, 2009 @ 5:54 pm

Yes! Mr. Snipes is right. I am from the big island and it seems that there is clan-ism in Hawaii. There are no decent jobs for locals. City and State regulates and controls the start of any business including Health Care. The State planning committee will oppose any challenges to start a business that will compete with one or 2 entities that the committee supports and protects. In the guise of protecting rural life the opportunities for the young is dismal.
I learned that among the young, there is a high incidence of drug use, alcoholism, and violence against women.
This is a welfare state there are a lot of of people relying on welfare.
The culture is quite diverse because of its history. It is a very poor state. It is expected therefore that people behave differently than in the mainland.
There are many good things about Hawaii. I kind of relate to some of the sentiments of the locals in that they feel that their island was taken away from them by the white mainland.
Hawaii is a beautiful place but I wish there will be more openness and integration with everyone.

Comment by Pacifico — October 15, 2009 @ 9:51 pm

Hi Fakes alert.So you don’t waste you money coming to Hawaii thinking that you will be seeing a lot of or moving to live with Hawaiians.

I thought it was ridiculous to see mostly filipinos and portugese and some whites in hula shows. Just because your family lives there does not make you ever a true hawaiian. A lot of the filipinos just moved to Hawaii when they were little just like Samoans and Micronesians but talk trash about how Micronesians don’t belong in Hawaii. Filipinos take advantage of the Hawaiian Homestead home loans so badly. I know a friken filipinos when I see one applying for subsidized home loans .But alot of people are to dumb to notice. I can’t stand it when you ask filipinos and portugese what they are and mostly the girls try to be exotic and say some crap like they’re filipino hawaiian portugee, chinese, spanish, french and give you a list so long to try to be exotic when a lot of them are just PLAIN filipino or PLAIN portugese from europe. I can tell the difference. I don’t see japanese pulling this crap as much because they know they look japanese and are at least not ashame to say so. There are mix japanese and you can tell right away they are mix japanese. Then you have so many whites that are wanna-be Hawaiians with their Hawaiian at Heart crap, who were born in Hawaii or just move there 2 years ago and give themselves Hawaiian names when they are white as heck. But when they are born in Oklahoma or Idaho, the don’t call themselves Oklahomaiians or Idahoians.

Comment by HI fakes — October 16, 2009 @ 11:47 am

very true HI fakes, I saw that all the time, especially the white guys that were white as all outdoors. I felt pity for white people that have to endure that “haole” crap all the time.

Comment by wasblkinHI — October 16, 2009 @ 4:55 pm

Hawaii in my opinion is the worst place to ever be founded in the world they are uninteligent and racist toward white people there are so many problems with this place I could rant all day and still have a whole month left to type abut this they have the worst school system in the U.S. And they are running for the title of 12th worst school system in the world they give no effort to try and learn how to speak english and for what reason because they can’t which I believe is the reason for it they have been ruled by english speaking countries for the past Six hundred years so its not like the have some kind of forieng accent to their speach the just sound foolish and even RETARDED

Comment by KSolo — October 18, 2009 @ 1:28 pm

Hawaii in my opinion is the worst place to ever be founded in the world they are uninteligent and racist toward white people there are so many problems with this place I could rant all day and still have a whole month left to type abut this they have the worst school system in the U.S. And they are running for the title of 12th worst school system in the world they give no effort to try and learn how to speak english and for what reason because they can’t which I believe is the reason for it they have been ruled by english speaking countries for the past Six hundred years so its not like the have some kind of forieng accent to their speach the just sound foolish and even RETARDED their math skills are six years behind any other school in the U.S. their english skill don’t even compare to us science is five years behind and all they learn in social studies is about the island that they live on all you need to pass a grade there is 46% or a 1.8 Gpa and more then half of the kinds are being held back even thought the work is so easy.

I mean what is so special about that big pile of dirt in the middle of the ocean it is all dead grass and dirt where ever you go on the island and it may be nice to have a vacation there for 5 Days - 2 weeks and even in the midst of all that it is boring because all their is to do is go to the beach and all of the culturial traditions are preformed by who not local but white people japenese people and filipinos the locals are all out of shape over weight they don’t even go to the beaches they would rather stay in their houses drinking a beer and watching a foot ball game rather than playing one for them selves or doing something active and guess what the wouldn’t have that beer that house and the television to watch the game on if it where not for … White people. If you leave the area for tourists then their is nothing to see but trash the people like to claim to be gangsters just because they live in a crapy neighbor hood which I would not even call a Ghetto because by their standerds a house in the “Ghetto” is 550Grand for a 2 story house and what is so gangster about snitching a word that they don’t even know the meaning of they are a bunch of pussys ass bandit fudge packing faggots and im sorry if that affends and homos.if you visit this place and you start hitting on a girl at the bar that a local was THINKING about talking to he won’t even aproach you he will just cry to his buddies he will then wait for you a out side of the bar in his car with his friend when your drunk and dizzy they will jump you and they will use weapon on a DRUNK guy who CAN’T fight back And how tough and gangster is that.

Now these locals are so unatractive and ugly if you can finda truly gourges thin women I will give you a fricken meddal they don’t know how to dress out there they get out of bed and through and the trashiest cloths that they can put together over their hace fat flaps. come on at least prostitoutse can put something trashy on that looks good.

and finally they are so racist toward any one that is not a local and white people singaled out while I was there visiting my old friend from high school who moved their from Chicago a year ago and had moved back 4 months ago because he could not stand it their. The whole time I was there all the local where totall ass holes to him his 12 year old son and I most of them would say “whe doon’t yo go back to da main land oo’ stoopet haole” or “Why don’t you go back to the main land you stuped haole” in proper english they would always complain about how we stole their land and ha I just could not help but laugh right in their face because with out white people they would have nothing and if they think they could just kick out any one who is not local why do the expect that we would leave every thing their we wouldtake all the jobs all our money their would be none of their presios fast food restronts left we would take all the mototer boat, the plains, hospitals, stores, cars, resouces and all the other thing that we brought to their land that they love so much and can’t live there lives with out.

But to the point I think that we should just take every thing that we gave them back leave the Island to the people who wanted us off after five years we see how they feel about us with out all those thing and then we we just get rid of the place. because really who needs it there will still be other much nice islands like the bahamas and if you really want to live in a great peridice for every one move to tahoe, florida, california, Texas or The U.P. of Michigan

Comment by KSolo — October 18, 2009 @ 2:47 pm

@ KSolo

“peridice”?

No thank you. I don’t want to move to where you learned your incompetent english literature thank you very much. :]

Comment by LoL — October 19, 2009 @ 12:17 pm

P.S.

“Six hundred years”

Really? Hawaii wasn’t discovered until 1700….thats only a 3 century difference…

Looks like we know who the RETARD in this scenario is? :]

-English Lit. Major.
-and i’m white. :]

Comment by LoL — October 19, 2009 @ 12:23 pm

@ LoL…….

“No thank you. I don’t want to move to where you learned your incompetent english literature thank you very much”

where did KSolo display his knowledge of “english literature” in that post, let alone any “incompetent english literature”? did he quote shakespeare? well, sorry, mister english “lit. major”, but that makes no sense at all, and coming from an “english major”, it makes you look doubly foolish. “english literature”, is printed matter, as in non-fiction books. a person’s offhand comments in a forum do not fit the definition. do you have anything to contribute to the thread beyond playing smug english teacher to someone else’s (on topic) post?

Comment by AdiosHI — October 21, 2009 @ 11:35 pm

I have been posting on this site for over a year.
I will be leaving hawaii and thought I would go buy my grandkids some neat hawaiin books about geickos and such.
Then I thought I do not want my grandchildren to think that hawaii is a glamourous beautiful place to be or live.
The price that we “haoles” pay to live here is not worth it, and I don’t want my granchildren to suffer the rascism I have experienced, even though my daughter married a hawaiin man. But they thankfully live on the mainland.
Hate hurts and when all people realize this and realize that it hurts them as much as the people they hate maybe things with change.
I will not spend any more money here or support this economy in anyway.
I have sold my home and never plan to come back even for a vacation.
HATE HURTS…STOP Hating other people unless you have a valid reason, not just because of the color of their skin.
I believe in an indigenous movement but feel hawaiins can protect their land and culture without hating.

Comment by Deborah — October 23, 2009 @ 12:51 pm

Wow. I was considering moving to Hawaii but won’t after reading this. Thank God for a website like this one that’s straight honest and doesn’t pull the politically correct tourist guide BS. Real opinions from real people. Much thanks. -very white guy

Comment by cartman — October 26, 2009 @ 3:20 pm

@AdiosHI

Evidently you didn’t go to college. Still living in your mom’s basement I see or living off of Daddy perhaps? It’s a use of rhetorical device and modes, something which your brain can’t process. Hypocritically, shall I say the same? Who died and gave you the power to flame other people’s posts? Yes I believe you should leave Hawaii, perhaps the United States, it’s no wonder why we waste billions of dollars on idiots like you.

Comment by LoL — October 27, 2009 @ 6:32 pm

@LoL

………………….pfffffffffffft……………

OK, now run along, little troll. i’m out of troll food and your dark little mushroom festooned box under a bridge is just the place for you to bone up on your “incompetent english literature”. one day you can put all your posts together in a book and be the first author ever to publish a book in that category. good luck.

Comment by AdiosHI — October 28, 2009 @ 5:53 pm

i understand most points on both sides of this thread but man halloween in waikiki sure kicks @ss!!! Im white and have experienced racism in every state and country ive been to hawaii not the only place that has some people who dislike white people try going to japan where 50% of buisnesses and bathrooms you cant even enter if you white or anything else other then japanese everyone should admit every race has it racists lets look at some examples
black=black panthers
white=kkk skin heads
all the middle east countries= taliban al qaeda although the hate westerners most f that hate is towards the whites
phillipinos=guerilla rebells
japan=most the old school ww2 survivors
mexico=maybe not racists but if your white and alone your as good as done

the point here is every race has its racist the reasons it continues is its passed down from generation no one is born fresh from the womb hating anyone or any kind of people instead its learned over time by older people we look up to as children and if seemed to be acceptable then adopted instilled to our heads thats why racism lives on i just wish parents taught there kids that all races have some who dont like everyone but you should give everyone a chance and everyones different and not everyone with the same skin color can be the same the racial atmosphere in hawaii might not be the best but i will take hawaii anyday and an occastional stink eye for know reason and lafe it off because i dont know how many times in california ive been in much more serious situations of witnessing car jacking rapes high speed chases bullets flying… well you get the picture hawaiis very much liveable for a white guy when you come from a place far worse if your from population 500 small town texas with 100% white people then hawaiis a big change and youll probly have issues besides most texans dont even like white californians and where the same people! so it varies and you non judgemental hawaiians out there try not to think all us whites are @ssholes atleast give us the benefit of the dought untill we really fuck up then you can tell yourself yeah thats one of the 10% of white dumbasses but hey there not all like that an everyones different right?

Comment by uncleargenius — October 31, 2009 @ 8:22 pm

Ya know, I just want to say how I feel here. I lived on the Big Island, going to UH Hilo for three years, and I have now been gone for six months. I am always questioning, whether or not to return. I think the Big Island is very different from Honolulu/ O’ahu, as I traveled all over the island chain, but no matter where I went, in Hawai’i, I would almost certainly run into some form of racism. I suppose, you could say that about anywhere in the world, although there does seem to be an emphasis on it in Hawai’i. I am a white guy, from the Chicago area, I guess I should add. I did, however have some local friends, and was pretty immersed in the culture, as I was there for a stretch. I met some pretty awesome local kids, and they were nice people, but it was hard to break down the barrier sometimes. I often, did get offended when they would use the word haole too much, but they were genuinely nice to me. I think, they expected me to speak pidgeon, but then at the same time, were annoyed when I did. It was very confusing. They certainly never let me forget that I was white, and if there was a local crew around, I pretty much became no one. That actually made me question the loyalty of these friendships. Some of them were definitely friends though, I dont doubt that, but not like super tight kine brah ha ha. I am not trying to debate here. I just want to share my experience. Of course, there were the locals that were not nice. By the time I left, I almost think I preferred the locals (that were nice), to the white people, although I dealt with my fair share of discrimination. The white people there, are the ones that really started to get under my skin. There is such an emphasis on acting like a local, and talking a certain way, and being down with Hawai’i among some of my peers there, that an overwhelming sense of ego was what I felt. I think that the energy created there by racism against whites, actually transcends into the white people there, and then they, in a sense, are not really that nice to each other. Animosity is the best word, I can use to describe it. It’s like who is cooler than who? Who has more ALOHA? Who has been here the longest? Who surfs the best? Who was actually born and raised here? I definitely was tired of it. I think, some of this may be bias for different reasons,mostly because it was a college setting, so cliques were formed, and it was a small school, but none-the-less. There is an air of aggression (fighting) and hatred, in Hawai’i. Aloha, sadly, is a facade in many ways. It’s like when you see someone at the grocery store, and they give you a fake smile. That’s Aloha. Even some of the ways people greet each other; raised eyebrows, super macho. I can’t say my time was bad there though. I had some amazing times, that I will never forget, and there are times when the ALOHA spirit is felt, still. Like, for example, another way people greet each other, is to kiss on the cheek. It would be sad if Hawai’i lost all of that. Aloha, for me, is connected to nature, and the sea and the island itself, not so much the people there anymore. The thing that bothers me the most, I believe is that it was really hard to just be myself. I pretty much changed, into someone I never was before. I talked different, acted different, was not as outgoing or comfortable. I didnt feel as free to be who I am, or express my self, because everyone I was around talked and acted the same way. Gotta say “ho”, even when it sounds un-natural. My best pidgeon, was when I was drunk. That’s another thing; everyone I hung with got super wasted there all the time and there are def. some substance abuse issues, in the islands. I dont know; all in all, it’s a catch 22 and it confuses me. There was a time there when I loved it, and I did embrace it, to a point, and I love the ocean and surfing. I miss Big Island waves, because they’re still good, but not ridiculous, like O’ahu. The Big Island is different than the rest of the islands though. I think people, as a whole, are nicer on that island, than say, Kauai. It’s just all silly, because most of the kids I hung out with were white. I would say at least 95% of the people in my crew were white, with a few Hawaiians thrown in the mix, that made us feel validated and cooler (Thanks guys), and of course, there were the Hawaiian haoles. I thought I reached this status, by the time I left, but my local friend re-assured me I was just haole, and couldn’t understand why I wanted to go back to “haole world”.

Comment by Dangarang — November 3, 2009 @ 4:56 pm

Been living on Oahu 7 months for work, can’t wait to leave. I f***ing hate this place.

Comment by Jessica — November 5, 2009 @ 3:33 pm

Dangarang hit the nail on the head. That is pretty much what it feels like to be white and from the mainland out here. Playing the game of how local you can be with your other friends by talking about how long you have been here etc… gets old after a while.

Its just different, personally I really dont care for it here. I sweat all the time when the sun is out cause its so hot. I get eyed out when I got to restaurants with my wife. And people are constantly talking bad about the “mainland” where I am from. I am out of here in a few days and will only come back to visit my wifes family. Aloha means goodbye. HAha

Comment by Dude — November 15, 2009 @ 5:30 pm

hi im from texas and iv’e been living here for a very long time, and all i got to say is that, YOU people that had “problems” here…..maybe it was your attitude. i mean honestly i’ve never had any problems with racism here..
there are A LOT of white people here, and from my veiw…they ALL love it!:D
im just sad that YOU people had a horrible time here.

SO all i got to say is….we dont need meen people like you in this world, GOD made everybody, and we should be like him…so would he hae on people from Hawaii or any other state? i dont think so.

Comment by Michelle Dean — November 18, 2009 @ 11:01 pm

I’m from New York. We have a way of saying “Aloha” there, too.

It goes: “Fuck you.”

Comment by Your mom — November 21, 2009 @ 11:06 pm

Hawaii SUCKS!!!!!! I have lived in Brazil, Italy, Tokyo and California.
this place is the worst place so far in my life.

Comment by someone from Cali — November 27, 2009 @ 4:28 pm

I lived in Hawaii way back in the 80″s. I lived in a mostly white area and therefore I’m sure that made all the difference in the world.

My social group was pretty mixed and, for the most part, I always felt like I had more in common with the locals (non-whites) compared to the white kids in my school. ( My family was low income and I will always believe that’s why I felt more “comfortable” with locals . E.g, I never had to impress them with material things. Yep, the realities of high school. : ) )

For the most part, I look back on my days in Hawaii and feel very fortunate that I got to grow up in such a beautiful place. But, I know that racism is prevalent in Hawaii and I really think the state needs to take a long hard look at what they are doing (or not doing) that facilitates / encourages hate crimes.

Perhaps, when one person gets put away for 20 years over a hate crime - parents will stop teaching their children to hate. Hate goes both ways and without deterrence - things will only get worse.

Seriously – who allows a national holiday whereas the goal is to beat up a race of people?

For Hawaii’s future - I really hope they figure out how to turn the ship around.

Love & Aloha
Michelle

Comment by michelle — November 27, 2009 @ 11:01 pm

Aloha really means “I have one testicle.”

Comment by Jose Ortiz — November 28, 2009 @ 7:25 pm

Please Hawaii clean up all the sodomites in Hawaii.

Comment by Leroy jones — November 28, 2009 @ 7:26 pm

i just have one thing to say. Hawaii= greatest place in the greatest country of the world.

Comment by Hawaiian Citizen — December 1, 2009 @ 2:14 pm

Hawaii is the land of Pee pee puffers and men who wear panties. We love rectums. Come to Hawaii if you like rectums.

Comment by Hawaiian Cross dresser — December 2, 2009 @ 5:48 pm

We hate white people too.

Comment by Hawaiian Cross dresser — December 2, 2009 @ 5:49 pm

In Middle School there was a group of Caucasian students who kept strictly to themselves and who stayed in a section of school far away from anyone else, during recess and lunch.

We called it “Haole Wood” and yes we also had “Kill Haole Day” though no one as far as I know, was ever ever attacked or harassed.

It was a sad thing. A disgusting thing.

On the last day of school, I remember walking past the area where those Caucasian students used to hang out (and it must have been their last day at school) and the janitors were looking at a hollow tile wall inside the stairwell where the students used to be and someone had smashed a hole in the wall.

I think it was symbolic of the students’ frustration, disdain and disgust with Hawaii.

True story.

Comment by Local boy — December 5, 2009 @ 12:53 pm

I was born and raised on Oahu and I have lived on other Pacific islands.

This is just a rant of random thoughts— so here goes…..

What many have said here is true, but I believe the frustration experienced by many here is also a result of the clash of cultures and Hawaii’s slow pace and backwards ways.

Yes, the Democratic gov’t is corrupt up the wazoo and so are the incompetent Judges (Judge Steven Alm is the exception to this) who seem to want to protect the rights of criminals over those of law abiding citizens. They are either corrupt, just plain stupid, apathetic or a combination of all three.

There seems to be a huge scam involving the construction companies and those in power.

Has anyone seen so many construction projects (road pavers, etc) so often?

Is that the best use of our tax dollars?

Can’t they come up with a better grade of road asphalt, that can actually withstand a few rainstorms before becoming riddled with potholes?

Oahu also has other problems:

Lots of petty crimes, vandalism and grafitti.

Hawaii residents have an attitude of entitlement and of blaming others for their problems.

How many times have you read about some meth-head who robbed/killed someone and hearing their families “blame Ice” as the reason for the crimes?

Don’t blame drugs, no one put a gun to your loved ones head and forced him to smoke that crap.

Another problem that has infected this place as of late, is the huge influx of Micronesians.

Many are law abiding and hard working who pay taxes. Sadly, many are not.

Many suck the State/Federal govt’s dry of resources and contribute to the crime and lawlessness of this place.

I haven’t even touched on the outrageous home prices, and cost of living.

If it was not for my job and my sick/aging parents, I told my wife we would be OUTTA HERE!!!!

We have no plans to retire here, we want to be far, far away from here when that time comes.

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Pingback by The Rastaman Vibration EBook. | 7Wins.eu — December 9, 2009 @ 8:46 am

You are my hero. This is exactly how I’ve felt about Hawaii for most of the years I’ve lived here. I want to move so much but my parents don’t believe how racist people are to me, a tiny white girl. I get ridiculed daily. It’s fucking horrible.

Comment by Ashley — December 9, 2009 @ 6:38 pm

NEVER SEEN SO MANY CRY BABIES IN MY FUCKING LIFE!!!!! 2 YEARS OF BITCHING AND COMPLAINING!!! WHAT HAS IT ACOMPLISHED?! JACK SHIT!!!! IF HAWAI’I BOTHERS YOU PEOPLE SO MUCH WALK THE WALK AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT GO TO EVERY LOCAL WHO FUCKED WITH YOU AND BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF HIM!! OHH WAIT THATS ASKING FOR TOO MUCH YOU PEOPLE CAN ONLY HIDE BEHIND A KEYBOARD AND PUNCH KEYS!! WOW!!! WHY DONT YOU GO ON A PUBLIC TV STATION AND EXPRESS HOW YOU FEEL TO THE ENTIRE HAWAI’I POPULATION!! WAIT STILL TOO MUCH SORRY I WAS GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF THINKING SOME OF YOU HAD A BACKBONE MY MISTAKE SO KEEP HIDING BEHIND THAT COMPUTER SCREEN PRETENDING ALL YOUR GOSSIP IS DOING A SINGLE FUCKING THING BESIDES PISS LOCALS OFF WHO READ IT!!! SO ITS SIMPLE U DONT LIKE HAWAI’I DONT LIVE THERE PERIOD WHATS SO HARD ABOUT THAT CONCEPT THAT U DONT UNDERSTAND ITS LIKE U BITCH AND COMPLAIN BUT STILL LIVE THERE!!!BEAT IT!!DONT WORRY HAWAI’I WON’T MISS YOU!!!

Comment by yourworstenemy — December 9, 2009 @ 11:16 pm

yourworstenemy-

Comments like these and on many other websites have shown me what a nasty racist place Hawaii is and saved me from spending a lot of money trying to live there. I’m also not vacationing there anymore. And yes, Hawaii won’t miss me, but if enough people read this and stop comming I’m guessing the locals will miss the money in their pocket and the food on their table. I’m also guessing that’s why you’re so pissed at this site.

Aloha
(that’s Hawaiian for fuck you)

Comment by mainlander — December 10, 2009 @ 11:24 am

UM NO SORRY “MAINLANDER” PERSONALLY I DONT NEED YOUR OR ANY OTHER TOURISTS MONEY I DONT WORK IN THE TOURISM INDUSTRY. ALSO THERE WASN’T ONE BIT OF RACISM IM MY LAST COMMENT IF YOU READ IT SO GUESS WHAT YOUR THE IGNORANT ONE TODAY ALONG WITH YOUR DEFINITION OF ALOHA. OH BTW TOURISM JUS WENT UP THIS YEAR!! SO THAT PROVES AGAIN HOW USELESS THIS BITCHING CONTEST IS!!! A HUI HOU!!!

Comment by yourworstenemy — December 11, 2009 @ 4:33 am

yourworstenemy-

I was talking about the comments of people’s encounters with racism on this blog and others, not your rant.
Yes I know, Hawaii does not need tourism to survive, Hawaii grows plenty of food to feed themselves, tourism is booming in Hawaii during this global recession – not that they need it, Hawaii’s booming economy is the envy of the world, it’s a wonderful place to live with a low cost of living, great paying jobs and when Hawaiians fart it smells like roses.
And I’m stuck in my crappy paid for house with its lame in-ground pool forced to endure vacations of snorkeling in the Caribbean or Sardinia and skiing in Switzerland or Colorado. Oh, and I’m also forced to work at home stuck with maintaining software for thirty minutes a day while getting full pay & bennies. Life is hell for me here on the mainland, I so wish I was you.

A very big Aloha!

Comment by mainlander — December 11, 2009 @ 11:45 am

I lived in Hawaii for 15 years. Big Island, Oahu, Lanai, Maui. When I first moved there I embraced the culture and the people. I was learning the language, history and culture of the Islands. After 15 years of hearing terms like “f***ing haole”, “you’re acting just like a haole”, “lets go kill some haoles” and after years of attitude from “locals” simply because of the color of my skin (white) I came to realize that Hawaii was the most racist state I have ever lived in. The Islands are beautiful but the people are ugly. I would never move back there, not in a million years.

Comment by never move back — December 11, 2009 @ 10:51 pm

Aloha is a fucking joke! The Hawaiian and “local” people are a joke. You’re the most ignorant, uneducated, obese people I have ever seen. Like Zippys? LOL Go stuff your fat ass faces you kanaka losers. Your kids are fucking retards. I’m in Marine Corps but my wife is a teacher here and she says the high school kids are the dumbest she has ever seen. Kamehameha Schools is a joke too. Now you breed dumb Hawaiian kids. Contrary to popular belief Surfah or Locals brand “slippahs” are not appropriate wear for all occassions. And cut your toe nails, brah. Dumb fat mokes at the gym wearing slippahs lol im gonna drop a 45 on your fat ass brown foot and punk you out. You’re the niggers of the Pacific! That’s the real reason we stole and plundered your land and resources and imprisoned your fat queen or whatver her fat ass was.

Do you really need 300 stickers on your car to remember you are Hawaiian? Pathetic

Comment by American Marine — December 12, 2009 @ 10:47 am

the best part is to watch the idiots in the back of the trucks flying down the highway and wondering how they fell out
the bumper stickers say it all “Hawaiian, nuff said”

Comment by kls — December 13, 2009 @ 1:30 am

“OH BTW TOURISM JUS WENT UP THIS YEAR!!” yourworstenemy

Looks like tourism decreased -5.5% for 2009. But look at the number betwen august to September it goes from 608,420 to 494,376 and the Tourism Authority have it as an increase. Either they don’t know how to count or they’re totally corrupt.I grew up in Hawaii and I would like to tell anyone thinking of moving here with kids; PLEASE DON’T! The treated by the local kids as their own scapegoat punching bag which is sad in such a beautiful place. I hope this reaches some people and I can prevent the same kind of pain that I endured while growing up in Hawaii.

The monthly total arrivals and percentage change in visitors to Hawaii:

2009
October 505,676 -1.7%
September 494,376 +7.2%
August 608,420 0.0%
July 624,140 +1.5%
June 550,421 -5.2%
May 516,204 -6.9%
April 541,610 -1.3%
March 555,902 -16.6%
February 527,222 -12.7%
January 522,241 -12.5%
YTD total 5,446,211 -5.5%

Source: Hawaii Tourism Authority

Comment by Hawaiireallysucks — December 13, 2009 @ 4:00 pm

Most Hawaiians (99%) are just like a Navajo indian (dumb, lazy, drunk, don’t take of their land or animals). No respect for them. Indians around here are called hodes/trogs/gut eaters/cliff shitters/warhoops.

Some of the areas look like the reservations were put on a tropical island.

One guy I met was cool, I told him that he was the coolest Hawaiian I met. He then told me he was Vietnamese and was pretty much accepted by the Hawaiians.

I did like the fact that Hawaii is very international in terms of visitors. It is fun. Oahu seems to be the perfect island (not too big or small,city, country, beaches, waves, girls). I also did not like the fact that there are a bunch of fags there either, especially Waikiki.

You know what the difference between stupid and dumb is? If your dumb you unable learn, stupid you just do stupid shit but you can learn from it.

Comment by arizona — December 13, 2009 @ 9:24 pm

I guess I’m too brown to be considered a Haole…never experienced stink-eye for the 4 weeks I stayed there…although I do have to say Hukilau Cafe sucks! Bitch looked like a Haole speaking pidgin and getting all upset because I wanted to take pictures of the place! Where’s your stupid Aloha, bitch?

Aloha, Hukilau Cafe! (That’s f*ck you, Haole local wanna-be! in Hawaiian)

Comment by Duke Nukem — December 15, 2009 @ 12:53 pm

AMERICAN MARINE- YOU TALK TOUGH BEHIND YOUR KEYBOARD JARHEAD Y DONT U TELL THAT TO SOMEONES FACE U PUSSY!!! MAINLANDER- WHAT U THINK YOUR THE ONLY ONE IN THE WORLD THAT HAS A PAID OFF HOME AND TAKES VACATIONS HAHA THINK AGAIN I DO THE SAME AND LIVE IN HAWAI’I WITH A PAID OFF HOME AND IM ONLY 25 SO U DONT IMPRESS ME SORRY TO BURST YOUR BUBBLE. ALL TALK NO ACTION SO HAVE FUN TALKING MORE SHIT LOSERS!!!!

Comment by yourworstenemy — December 15, 2009 @ 11:34 pm

yourworstenemy-

Of course you have a 4500 sq ft paid off home, make a million dollars a day and fly around the world in a Lear Jet. Then you wake up, roll out of your sleeping bag, take a hit of ice and then head down to the public library to post some more BS.

PLEASE ASK THE LIBRARIAN HOW TO TURN OFF THE CAPS LOCK

Comment by mainlander — December 16, 2009 @ 2:48 pm

Oh, and I almost forgot….

Aloha to yourworstenemy

Comment by mainlander — December 16, 2009 @ 2:50 pm

Hawaii has several pedophile days, which they honor the local child molester. Hawaii caters and bows to these types, much of the tourism industry’s money goes to feeding and funding Hawaii’s millions of pedophiles.

These molesters vote for the locals, so in return they feed and clothe and pay rent for these pedophiles.

Nice!

Your tourism dollars at work!!!

Comment by Chester — December 16, 2009 @ 6:26 pm

After reading all the racism and crap about Hawaii, no thanks. I’ll spend my money elsewhere. Seems like the islands of assholes.

Comment by mike — December 16, 2009 @ 6:55 pm

All I hear is about how racist Hawaii is. I have to agree that once you lave the really nice parts, that much of it is unclean, but then again, this can be said about every city in the US.

Comment by Sentry — December 16, 2009 @ 8:07 pm

MAINLANDER- I LIKE THE CAPS SO DEAL WITH IT!! NO I DONT MAKE A MILLION DOLLARS NEVER SAID I DID OR HAVE THAT BIG OF A HOME DONT WANT ONE THAT BIG EITHER. SO U THINK IM FULL OF SHIT HUH IF I WAS LYING DONT YOU THINK I WOULD HAVE COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER LIKE SAYING I DO MAKE A MILLION A YEAR! ALSO I’VE NEVER SMOKED ICE IN MY LIFE DUMBASS!! SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU CANT HANDLE THE FACT OF A SUCCESSFULL HAWAIIAN!! LOOK WHO’S THE RACIST, STERIOTYPICAL PERSON NOW YOU FUCKEN HYPOCRITE!! TALKING ABOUT HOW ALL HAWAIIANS ARE OBESSE, LAZY, DONT HAVE JOBS, ON WELFARE, ARE DUMB, SMOKE ICE, ARE HOMELESS, ARE HOMO’S, ETC…GEE THAT SOUNDS PRETTY RACIST AND STERIOTYPICAL COMING FROM A BUNCH OF PERFECT PEOPLE WHO BITCH ABOUT RACISM IN HAWAI’I!!!! FUCKEN HYPOCRITES!!!

Comment by yourworstenemy — December 17, 2009 @ 12:29 am

yourworstenemy—

Yes, I can handle the fact that there are successful Hawaiians. I just doubt you are one of them. Why do I doubt you? You claim you don’t need tourism. Please name another source of income other than the military for Hawaii. Even if you worked in another field you would realize that when tourism is down everyone suffers. You then make the bizarre statement that tourism in Hawaii is up during this global downturn. You claim that you own a home that is paid for when even a small house in Hawaii goes for 300 to 400k, quite the feat for someone that is only 25 years old. But the biggest reason I know you are full of BS is they way you argue on this site. Cap locks on, yelling that anyone that comments about Hawaii’s racial problems is a racist lying loser. It’s like when you confront a thief about stealing. The first thing they do is start yelling and become overly confrontational.
If you are so successful and don’t need tourism why would you care & seek out this site? I found this site because I was thinking of moving to Hawaii and while doing research on it I kept bumping into comments about all the racism there. I remembered talking to a girl in college that said she grew up in Hawaii. I said to her how lucky she was and she told me it wasn’t any fun and that she was constantly picked on for being white. That was twenty years ago, times change I thought. Then I googled “Hawaiian racism” and was amazed at all the stories of racism against whites. Are all these people winning lying losers?
I’ve been to Hawaii only three times and all of the business owners that I had dealings with were friendly & courteous. They understood I was their customer, just like I am friendly & courteous to my customers, they realize its just good business. I did notice that more than once I gave a smile and nod to cashier and it was not returned. I chalked it up to work overload on their part. The only time I really talked with a local was when walking to the beach from the house we were renting in Kauai. He stopped us and asked where we were coming from. He was drunk as a skunk but seemed to give us the ok to going onto the public beach. I chalked it up to a guy letting loose on the weekend. The next day he confronted us again not remembering us at all. He spent about an hour talking to us about how the white man took his land and that they were responsible for all his woes. Talk about winning. Still, there are drunks and losers everywhere and I know not to judge everyone by just one encounter. But after reading the many horror stories on several different sites I’m thinking they all can’t be lying.
As for me moving to Hawaii, being discriminated against for employment is not an issue being employed in the software industry and able to do all of my work on line. I really don’t need people to be friendly to me. The problem is that I have a daughter that is in high school, and from what I’ve read, there is no way I’m having her put up with all the racial BS against whites in Hawaii. Like any real father, snub me, call me a name, whatever. Fuck with my daughter and I will kill you.

Aloha

Comment by mainlander — December 17, 2009 @ 8:44 am

mainlander- just for u I’ll unlock the caps, happy bonehead…and I really dont feel the need to explain myself but just for you because u still seem to think i’m full of shit I will..my source of income is the us government your correct and I work overseas so I make good money and I saved alot so thats how I paid off my home and yes I yell and rant not because I’m fucken guilty but because of narrow minded, steriotypical comments like the one from the so called “american marine” and how you cant face up to it like real men or women just talk a bunch of shit on a website which I never searched for btw I stumbled on it..so you dont need friends good for you live alone with your computer all your life I dont care and if your so scared to let your daughter go to school there simple dont move there you already said u got a paid off home with an in ground pool so why are you even talking about moving there if you hate it so much…

Comment by yourworstenemy — December 18, 2009 @ 12:08 am

We love little white folks. Please come bring all your money.

Comment by Hawaiian Deviant — December 18, 2009 @ 10:18 pm

Wow, this topic made it a long way. Seriously though, Hawaii does do a pretty bad job at keeping itself clean. The crime rate is actually pretty good (not that much crime at all). A lot of locals (not all) are definitely kind of rude and very misinformed on politics in the area. Politicians in Hawaii are pretty corrupt and fairly easily trick locals into siding with them simply for also being a local (locals screwing locals). The standard for living here is very bad. Most (not all) locals don’t tend to their yards or keep the outside of their homes clean and landlords that are locals try to pawn off homes for rent at high prices for very low quality housing. If you go to the “mainland people” areas, you find a much much cleaner and friendlier environment (but you have to pay for it). Hawaii has some very amazing things about it, but it still has a very very long way to go if it wants to be a REAL american state. I’ve also never seen such a disregard for rules and regulation. Hawaiians in a position of power love creating false jobs for their friends. The federal government throws money at hawaii just to have it wasted, missing or miss-used. It’s all about who you know here and if you look asian or hawaiian (in most instances but not all). Locals here are under the impression that if they get a job with the federal government its theirs for good, so most of the time they tend to be pretty lazy. Road workers in Hawaii (mostly locals) take 3 times as long as mainland road workers on projects. Its the same for nearly every industry across the board. Hawaii is an extremely inefficient state. Its called the Island lifestyle, laid-back Hawaiian time, It’s simple laziness, there’s no way to deny it. Its not because everyone is laid-back, their just lazy. It sucks but its true, this is a welfare state that loves handouts. Now I would like to point out that these comments do NOT work for all Hawaiians (”locals” its a fact that probably no one reading this is full blooded hawaiian, even if they think they are) . There are absolutely those from Hawaii that are very very nice, respectful, educated and have a great deal of class, but they are few and far between. Hawaiians are americans just like irish americans, african americans, italian americans and so on. They’re just a little new to the idea of being an american, give them time and I’m sure they’ll work their state out. Hawaiian Deviant, we will keep the money coming and you can keep watching it go no where near your pocket.

Comment by Not Hawaiian — December 20, 2009 @ 2:45 am

yourworstenemy,

From one local boy to another please be quiet already.

Give it a rest. You are only making yourself sound dumber with each post.

And lay off the caps.

I know, “in one ear, out the other.”

At least I tried.

Comment by local born and bred — December 21, 2009 @ 8:41 pm

And yourworstenemy,

I know you post on that FH website, I do too…

I think I know who you are.

Comment by local born and bred — December 21, 2009 @ 8:56 pm

i did lay off the caps in my last post and how the fuck am i sounding dumb i’m stating facts. they’re the dumb ones making remarks like american marine. y dont you stand up for yourself instead of tellin me to be quiet. if i see something i feel is without a doubt wrong and disrespectful to me i’m gonna fucken speak up. and what is FH? dont know what that is sorry.

Comment by yourworstenemy — December 21, 2009 @ 11:32 pm

I never felt so ‘white’ until I relocated to Honolulu. I’m Australian. Male. 35 yrs old. I lived and taught in Japan and the Middle East for many, many years. Only in Hawaii do I feel completely ‘othered’. I don’t give a flying f**k what colour people’s skin is, but everywhere I go here people treat me differently because of my skin.

I live right by Ala Wai Canal. It’s a disgrace. When I walk to go anywhere I walk through desolate wastelands of broken down buildings, homeless people everywhere begging for money. Trash and graffiti everywhere. Idiots driving like crazy. People high on meth screaming and ranting and raving in the streets. ugh!

If I go to the supermarket the clerks don’t greet me, talk to me or acknowledge me if I’m with my wife (who is Asian American), but because she ‘looks local’ they smile and chat with her - even when I’m the one paying!

1 in 6 adults is illiterate and the whole place has a moron vibe to it. I applied for 450 jobs here since February and haven’t found anything (and I have a B.A. and M.Ed). I hate the place. Even if I had a good job and was earning heaps of money, the place would still suck.

The beaches are crap compared to Australia’s. Really. It’s true.

Come here for a holiday - sure. But don’t move here. Really. Don’t. I can’t wait to leave.

Comment by Richard — December 22, 2009 @ 12:46 pm

richard cry me a fuckin river!!!you baby change your diaper!!! your so full of shit its comong out of your ears!! there are no broken down buildings in that area sorry your mixing it up with a village you lived in the middle east..and there arent homeless peole everywhere begging for money either your exaggerating all this shit. also maybe people dont talk to you not because of your skin but because you have an attitude that gives off a bad vibe!!! also your talk about illiteracy being 1 in 6 adults are you fucking retarded!!!once again mixing Hawai’i up with some 3rd word country you lived in. and the beaches are crap huh yeah sure thats why we got number one in the worlds best beaches poll and australia isnt even in the top 10. and the job problem is everyones problem hello the ecomomy is shit right now everywhere my mom cant even find a steady job and she’s got a masters in anthro. so dont blame your skin color just because you cant find a job. your mistake for moving there when the unemployment rate is higher than ever!! stop bitching about Hawaii this Hawaii that “I cant wait to leave” just fucking leave what the hell are you waiting for you act like your obligated to live there just go back to your kangaroos and wallabee’s so you’ll be happy!

Comment by yourworstenemy — December 22, 2009 @ 9:23 pm

19% of all adults and 30% of native Hawaiian adults are functionally illiterate, according to the organization Hawaii Literacy. We have to make improvements in our community’s. This is extremely unacceptable and doesn’t do well for the level of respect we should be getting. We are very lucky to be part of the United States and need to hold ourselves at a much higher standard than we currently are. We obviously have great potential but have so few locals that rise to the occasion. We need to clean it up, start acting like adults and give people a reason to envy us. We need to stop treating our island like a third world country and bring up our status. People from around the world should come here and think that we are the luckiest ethnicity anywhere, but instead they come from all around the world to think to themselves “wow, I would have thought it should be cleaner and more of a paradise than this.”. We have to get off our asses and make this happen. We are not a lazy, malcontent and aggressive people so lets stop acting like it. If we want respect and a nice place to live we need to make it happen. I love this state and I act like it!

Comment by Aiea Grown — December 23, 2009 @ 12:59 pm

yourworstenemy-
Yes Richard, it’s you, your attitude, not your skin color, you are just not showing respect (what the fuck does that exactly mean?). Haole just means foreigner, foreign origin or without breath, it’s not derogatory term for a white person. “Fucking haole”, “kill haole day”, those are just expressions. You are all just whiners and losers. All of you, there is no racism against white people in Hawaii, you are all lying. If you don’t like it you should leave.
yourworstenemy, what a racist jerk. Are there a racial problem where I live? Hell yes. Am I guilty of racist feelings? Hell yes. I guess that is the biggest difference, you want to deny there is a problem. Where I live, call someone a n_gger or a ch_nk. In the work place, you are so canned. School, suspension goes without saying. In a public place, people will scowl at you and even hit you. Racism is not tolerated. It sure doesn’t seem like that is the case in Hawaii.
Sorry yourworstenemy, people will keep reading about the crap that is passing in Hawaii, people will keep passing on going there, Hawaiian locals we keep putting there hand out for fed aid and spitting on it when they get it. And who are the losers?

Aloha

Comment by mainlander — December 23, 2009 @ 1:17 pm

mainlander I dont know where you come up with the shit that flows out of your mouth like a river. not once have i made a racial comment in any of my posts so you can kiss my Hawaiian ass…and what do you want me to do draw you a fucking picture! what part of maybe richard’s an asshole do you not understand. why go assuming its his skin color when maybe its his attitude thinking everyone in the world should talk to him even if their having a bad day..also your so called kill haole day hahahahahaha i went to waianae high school if you havent heard of that school its the most ghetto school in the state with the majority of the students being native hawaiians and we never had such a day buddy. my own hawaiian history teacher was white and she was very influential and was my favorite teacher….and haole is not a degratory term you sarcastic piece of shit and it is in no way similar to nigger which was made up during slavery times just for that purpose so dont compare the two… and if a fucking word hurts your sensitive feelings so bad then do what you said people do where your from, hit them!!! ohhh wait you cant thats why your on this blog you pussy because you cant stand up for yourself when it happens in person!! “so canned” haha whatever!!!go out and “can” every local that called you a name!! you sound like a kid in first grade running to the teacher saying “the other kid called me a name waaaaaaaaaah” fucking PATHETIC!!!

Comment by yourworstenemy — December 23, 2009 @ 7:48 pm

Oh my, what a charged blog we have here….

Born and raised in Hawaii. Wahiawa, to be exact. Fortunate enough to live on both the East and West Coast for a period of time. Road tripped the continental US. Earned degrees from both UH and a mainland school. Also extremely lucky to have travelled to various countries abroad. I’ve been blessed to have met so many wonderful people (of all races) abroad and here in the State of Hawaii. I’ve also met extremely ignorant and hateful people (of all races)both abroad and in here in Hawaii.

I suppose to one degree or another, I can empathize with each and every blog posting. There are certainly many wonderful things about the people and places of Hawaii. Admittedly, there are also things in need of dire improvement but certainly not isolated to only the State of Hawaii.

I reckon “Can’t we all just get along” won’t work here.

To those whom “hate” or are wary of Hawaii: Please try to experience Hawaii with an open heart and mind–beyond the negative stereotypes and hyperbole voiced throughout the commentary. Doing so may change your mindset (then again, maybe not).

To those whom embrace life in Hawaii: Please keep an open mind to the criticisms expressed on this blog. Admittedly, some criticisms have degrees of merit. Others do not. Concerns and frustrations about life in Hawaii are REAL–if only through the eyes of a critic. Perhaps we can help to change some of those negative thoughts. Perhaps we can help to change problems within the system.

To All: Perhaps an open mindset and willingness to dialog about our ideas and perceptions in a constructive manner will move this blog beyond 2+ years of sniping. Then again, if sniping helps you make sense of the world to your specifications…I suppose crystalattice has provided a useful service to all parties interested.

Comment by Dave — December 27, 2009 @ 12:21 am

Absolute hate for that d@mn place. Ignorante, illiterate,dirty
people. If I won a ticket, I would throw it away. Ughhh just
the thought of going back to that dirty cockroach infected Oahu
makes me sick.

Comment by Michele — December 28, 2009 @ 11:29 am

hey Michele stop describing yourself!! looks like your the illiterate one, “ignorant” doesnt have an e at the end of it genius…and hey here’s a fun fact the only reason Hawai’i has cockaroaches is hmmmm because the haole brought them there back in the day so thank your ancestors for that one you dirty, IGNORANT, illiterate, close minded, steriotypical bitch!!!

Comment by yourworstenemy — December 28, 2009 @ 7:58 pm

yourworstenemy, stop posting please. I’ve been reading your post’s over the past few weeks and I can recall you making more than a few comments about other’s grammar while yours is also pretty bad (mostly worse). You really need to stop only using Microsoft word to correct your spelling and work on your sentence structure as well. These are very early elementary corrections.

1. The first letter in the first word of a sentence is in caps.
2. Only one ! is necessary (we get it, you have a lot of pent up aggression due to your lack of sexual activity).
3. The same goes for a “.” or a “?”.
4. The cockroaches would die off if you would clean up once in a while.
5. “I” is always in caps.
6. If referring to a town “Waianae” you capitalize the first letter.
7. Same for words like Hawaii.
8. There’s much to much to correct, so we will leave it at that today.

Your almost definitely furious and steeping with great rage by now, so I would suggest that you go to the mirror, look yourself in the eyes, have a good cry and try to convince yourself that the swearing gets your point by a little better. Because of your ridiculous predictability I’ve already written a response to your next post. Lets see how well I’ve got your personality pegged. You’ll all just have to believe we are going on the honor system when I post my pre-made rebuttal to his response. this will be FUCKING fun…!!! (yourworstenemy, I was mocking you with that last sentence.)

Comment by English Please — December 30, 2009 @ 5:54 pm

English please who gives a shit its a post not an english essay turned in to be graded. You didnt even capitalize the first letter in your post so spare me smart guy. Also roaches wont just die off jackass. Sorry I don’t cry either stop talking about the things you do on your spare time like crying in front of a mirror I dont care and you have no clue of my personality so stop trying to get to know me your creeping me out you fuckin stalker.

Comment by yourworstenemy — December 30, 2009 @ 10:20 pm

Oh Hawai’i has an okina between the two i’s smart guy.

Comment by yourworstenemy — December 30, 2009 @ 10:23 pm

Hawaii truly sucks! Unfortunately, I had to return to Hawaii because I have a home here (not by choice). I miss the mainland. Here are the reasons why Hawaii sucks!
1. The weather: it’s too damn hot and humid here!! Has anyone ever heard of scraping 5 inches of snow off a windshield?! Why can’t temperatures be in Hawaii be similar to New England, Detroit, Chicago, Ohio, or even Scandanavia??!! Anything below zero degrees Fahrenheit would be nice.
2. NO chance of long-term employment and the cost of living here is ridiculous. In Hawaii, all one really needs is a high school diploma, if you have a doctorate you are overqualified. The salaries are terrible here, compared to the mainland.
3. Almost everyone in Hawaii is SLOW and laid back. No one is in a rush. Everyone drives slow (the minimum on an interstate should be 80 mph, not 45-55) and does not use both feet to drive. Ergo, when the lights turn green it takes 15 seconds for Hawaii drivers to react. If I beep at you for moving too damn slow, people in Hawaii think I am rude. Italian and Spaniard driving schools should instruct Hawaii drives how to behave on the roadways!
4. What the hell is this pidgin English? Is everyone here backward? I would much rather prefer people speaking Hawaiian rather than pidgin! I was born and raised (and resented every minute of it) in Hawaii, and NEVER NEVER NEVER spoke (or will ever) pidgin.
5. No long distance trips via car. Even if you wanted to leave, you could only do so by a ship or plane. No wonder criminals are always apprehended — where are they going to go?
6. When was the last time we had at least one murder a day in Hawaii (not even in Honolulu) or a major international incident? Why can’t Hawaii be more like New York, DC, Chicago, Detroit or Boston? At least the police would have something better to do than to issue obnoxious traffic tickets! I have never been stopped by the police on the mainland! (However, I have been honked at for moving too slow — 75 mph on the Verrazano Bridge and the AC Expressway).
7. There are not many choices for the consumer in Hawaii — utility companies are monopolized and businesses are closing shop daily? Why not diversify the economy like the mainland, major cities in Asia or Europe?
8. Lack of culture and refinement: a couple of museums, a couple of cultural centers (monopolized by materialistic entrepreneurs who “sugar coat” authentic polynesian culture) and beaches (ironically, I do not know how to swim, hate the sun and humidity, but love snowboarding and skiing). Why can’t Hawaii be more like Paris, Rome, Milan, Moscow, London, Berlin, Beijing, Shanghai, New York or Chicago???

9. I cannot understand why people choose to vacation, live/work in Hawaii. If a company would hire me to move to Siberia permanently, I would go in a heartbeat.

For your information, I am trying my best to move back to the mainland permanently and vow never to return to Hawaii. Anywhere but Hawaii.

Comment by IDespiseHawaii — January 1, 2010 @ 2:43 am

For those Hawaiians with their Hawaiian pride and do not want Americans on their islands… then take it back!!! See if you can get it done. Hawaiians are not smart nor strong enough. Weak people mentally. Just like a Navajo.

Comment by az — January 1, 2010 @ 1:02 pm

az- so you calling me mentally weak, not smart or strong?! how bout we meet up so I can prove how wrong you are! You piece of shit! IDespizeHawaii- I think your just retarded. Its not zero degrees because its an island in a tropical zone dumb shit. It never will get that cold except on the top of Mauna Kea where they get snow occasionally. I dont know what to say about your comment towards us not having enough murders are you fucking kidding me shut the fuck up already. I give you credit though at least your trying to leave not like these other idiots who just bitch and complain but still live there.

Comment by yourworstenemy — January 2, 2010 @ 2:23 am

For those Hawaiians/pidgins with their Hawaiian pride and do not want Americans on their islands… then take it back!!!

TAKE YOUR ISLANDS BACK YOURWORSTENEMY!!!

See if you can get it done. Get your people together. You are all just like a Navajo (dumb, lazy, drunk, litterbugs, and don’t take of their land or animals).

Get the pidgin crew ready and do something. Your an indian/pidgin, Americans have controlled you for a so long and that is the way it is. Be happy for the security that we offer with our presence. It is your own peoples fault for their demise.

You know it… you have accepted it.

The only thing you can do is build casinos and that might save your pathetic asses at least for this present day society, if and only if you can get your laws changed and keep your own people from starving their kids to feed their habits (another fact way too many kids population wise, you’re like rodents).

The only difference between a Hawaiian indian/pidgin and a mainland indian is that the mainlanders coyote the USA government better than the pidgins.

“Pidgin people” is self explanatory. You even have a hard time “working” the government let alone understand it.

Perhaps you should work on becoming better people in every way and you may get better treatment and more respect in the oncoming years. Until then I just do see anything changing for the pidgin people.

One had to respect the indians back in the day because they lived a respectful life and were pretty much one with nature. They worked. Now they sit their asses awaiting handouts. F that. That is what is wrong with America. Nearly everyone will accept and is looking for a handout. That is why Obama’s health plan will fail because everyone will have their hand out being a drain on society.

A degrading America is a fact, that is why socialism is becoming apparent.

Perhaps Americans should start talking about population control? Get people use to hearing and discussing it. If you have a set population you can then identify and work on the problems. Without the population controlled, you cannot control the problems, if you can’t control the problems you cant find solutions and mend the problems.

Comment by az — January 2, 2010 @ 7:22 pm

For those Hawaiians/pidgins with their Hawaiian pride and do not want Americans on their islands… then take it back!!!

TAKE YOUR ISLANDS BACK YOURWORSTENEMY!!!
well dumb shit were vastly outnumbered for one so that’s not gonna happen!! So when the fuck are we gonna meet up so I can show you how fucken wrong you are about Hawaiians. I’m not dumb (went to college), not lazy, everybody gets fucken drunk at one point in their lives so I dont know where your going with that one, not a litter bug I take care of my land and and animals so looks like your stereotype only applies to a small pecentage of us just like every fucken race in the world has its share of dead beat people so don’t sit there and think you know anything about Hawai’i, Hawaiians, our history and especially me you piece of shit. The only thing you said that I agree with is population control as in controlling how many people move to Hawai’i especially O’ahu. It’s so crowded one day no one will be able to drive, it will just be one big jam up. Thre is only so much people that can live in one area before the infastructure just can’t take it anymore.

Comment by yourworstenemy — January 3, 2010 @ 1:40 am

So just sit there then and live the existence you have accepted. Do not try and change anything including yourself.

Enjoy the “access” and other handouts that you and your people will receive and are willing to take when you all get the chance. Watch your people do it, then you pidgins can all laugh at how you worked the system and got something for nothing.

You are the piece of shit. You are the drain.

Comment by az — January 3, 2010 @ 5:42 am

sorry punk ass I dont take hand outs I work every bit for my money and pay all my taxes. Your the fucken drain using up my oxygen with every worthless breath you take. So take a long walk off a short pier az.

Comment by yourworstenemy — January 4, 2010 @ 12:16 am

I was in lahaina for the summer in 2007. it was great fun. But racism was unbelievable bad there!! philipinos would gang up on white guys, and tongan thugs would hit white guys just for them being white!. It was unbelievably bad!!! I mean there was one club in lahaina called “paradise” and if you were white and went in there you got beaten up!!! i was there with a group of girls and even the girls got hit!!! oh and as for their education, lets just say it was non existent!!! they are horrendous a maths and english!!! all they give a damn about is “surfin, smokin weed and mayonaise!!” they love mayonaise!!!! but man i gotta tell ya it shows!!! they have to be some of the fattest people in the world!! i mean the REAL hawaiians and tongans are HUGE!!! anyway, maui is a hate filled place. They think that the white man stole their lands etc!! SMALL PLACES BREAD SMALL MINDS!

Comment by hawaii does suck — January 4, 2010 @ 10:34 pm

“Haoles need to earn respect.”

This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever seen. Why does someone need to prove the deserve to be in their own country? Every American has every right to live in every other state that he or she is not from. When a Texan moves to Connecticut, he doesn’t have to “prove” himself to anyone. The notion that white people need to “act their place” in Hawaii just SCREAMS racism.

Coupled with the fact that the defense, government and a very, very distant tourism sector industries in Hawaii are all based on the economies of the other 49 states, really the local Hawaiians should be grateful for the fact that California, Texas, New York and Florida all contribute more tax dollars to Hawaii that Hawai ever could.

I lived on Oahu for 18 months. I enjoyed it, it was fun. But the major contributing factor to my leaving the island was the overwhelming accepted racism all over the island.

The fact that supervisors are allowed to use racial slurs to their employees, the fact that racial slurs are tolerated in grade school and the fact that the politicians themselves even throw racial slurs around is complete balderdash. Whether or not you think the word haole is racist (and it obviously is), there’s no other place in America where a supervisor can legally refer to his workers by racial slurs. Perhaps the H word doesn’t have as much sting as the N word, but thats irrelevent. “Colored” doesn’t have the same sting as the N word and no one in their right mind would ever call any black American a “colored”.

Only in Hawaii is this pervasive, disgusting and morally apprehensible culture accepted, tolerated and even encouraged. And please, don’t even get me started on the Secession Movement.

Comment by lived on Oahu — January 4, 2010 @ 10:45 pm

I’ve traveled all over the world and have never seen the level of racism that exists in Hawaii. I’ve personally seen ignorant thugs screaming profanities at tourists and threatening their children while the surrounding native Hawaiians laugh. I’m mean really, what other place has a Kill Haole Day. Everywhere else in the world bigots are ostracized, in Hawaii they are tolerated.

Comment by traveled — January 4, 2010 @ 10:51 pm

All I had ever heard about Hawaii and Maui in particular was that the ’spirit of Aloha’ (i.e. a spirit of tolerance, openmindedness, love and respect for all, etc.) informed all aspects of daily life. I was told never to honk my car horn, or get too close behind a slower driver; things moved at a slower pace here.

So my first day in Maui I have to drive from Kihei to Lahaina and back, and I’m driving a rental in unfamiliar territory, facing one blind turn after another along a narrow road with 2 way traffic and a steep, sheer drop perilously close to the road and no place to ‘pull over and let others pass’ for much of the way.

Though I never went below the posted minimum speed, I was constantly being screamed at and honked at by impatient locals. One particularly screwy local tailgated me for several miles, screaming what maniacally while waving some sort of weapon in his hand. The car sported the inevitable upside down hawaiian flag of the hawaiian separatist movement. Eventually, a space opened on the road where I could move over and let this racist meth head pass. You can keep your god damned ‘paradise’. The landscape is beautiful but the locals are some of the most ugly, bitter, hateful creatures you could ever encounter. As a fair skinned white, I would never venture out anywhere in Hawaii without a sidearm and several companions. Savages.

Comment by some white guy — January 4, 2010 @ 10:55 pm

Funny stories, you all should get together and write books. They’d fit perfectly in the fiction section. As far as the ugly comment hahahaha yeah that’s why white girls can’t keep their hands off of me whenever I go to the mainland, cuz I’m so dammed ugly, bitter and hateful. Get a life!

Comment by yourworstenemy — January 5, 2010 @ 12:14 am

i have lived out here for three years, and am white. my younger brother lives out here too, and i am so afraid. he rides his bike alot at night, and the other evening, some guys in a huge truck came at him, ran him off the road and hit the back tire of his bike. they screamed haole and left him there, injured on the side of the road. crap i tell ya! what are the cops gonna do?

Comment by bill — January 5, 2010 @ 6:39 am

My son has been on the north shore of Kauai since 2005. He got to work this morning and found an expensive generator had been stolen from the job site. When he told the police officer, the officer said my son was one of the haoles who were ruining his island. No police report was taken.

My son is a skilled construction worker. (Stone mason) He works hard, and contributes to the economy. This is not the first time he’s been called a haole with such scorn (it happens several times a week), but it is the first time it came from a police officer.

When I was driving around Kauai a few years ago, I saw a For Sale sign in front of a house. The sign also said, “But never to the white man.” I was shocked. At the time I thought that was the exception to the rule but not now. Racism happens far too often to be acceptable.

If I put a For Sale sign on my house that excluded a race or nationality, you can bet your bottom dollar there’d be an outcry about it. Yet it’s okay for Hawaiians to be so openly racist toward non-Hawaiian mainlanders? That doesn’t make sense to me.

Comment by just a mom — January 5, 2010 @ 6:41 am

It is always disturbing to read these threads. Folks are brutally honest and open about their racism. Switch ‘Haoles’ with the “N word” and you could be reading statements from Mississipi in the late 1950s. And the rush to defend, qualify or apologize for these parochial, xenophobic views would be laughable were they not so hateful.

The irony is that most people in Hawaii are not even indigenous to Hawaii. The vast majority of Hawaiians originally come from other Pacific Islands, Asia or the Mainland. The only thing they have in common is perhaps a profound lack of self-esteem.

And this nonsense about resenting a colonial policy is pathetic. Nobody posting on this thread was born then. Its akin to someone of Irish descent hating a British tourist because his great-grandparents had to leave Ireland due to the Potato Famine.

What exactly does John Doe from Topeka have to do with the chicanery of the 19th Century? Good grief. People are being randomly targeted and blamed for something over 100 years old just because they are white. How utterly sophmoric and cowardly.

Comment by Mike — January 5, 2010 @ 6:46 am

FUCKING HAOLES!!! I HATE YOU ALL!!!!! GET OFF MY ISLAND!!!!!

Comment by yourworstenemy — January 5, 2010 @ 6:59 am

I lived in Pearl City from 1963-1971. I am Caucasian. I experienced the most ugly racial prejudice one can imagine while I lived there. I was 6 years old when I arrived, and 14 when I left. I love the islands, the history, the language, the scenery. However, the ugliness I experienced which I in no way deserved or invited, affects me even to this day. I know all about Kill Haole Day. I know what it is like to be friends with local kids after school, but have them turn on me during school hours. I know what it is like to be followed home from school by a group of locals; ganging up on me. I went back once in 1979 to visit, and was attacked in Waikiki. I was minding my own business. Fortunately, I got away. Frankly, I feel safer visiting in Mexico. The people there are genuinely friendly

Comment by Frank — January 5, 2010 @ 3:05 pm

Lol well just to let you all know I didnt write that last ignorant statement. Someone else is trying to obviously make me look like a racist probably because of his small penis size or the fact that he is a racist piece of shit himself. So to the copycat why dont you go fuck yourself. Frank cry me a river even I’ve been followed and mobbed by more than a few people and I’m Hawaiian. So stop crying like a little bitch. Fighting is inevitable for everybody in Hawai’i that’s just how it is. It was a daily thing for me so you wan’t sympathy go talk to Dr.Phil. Yeah mexico is realy safer ok sure with all the drug wars going on I don’t think so Frank. So if you rather get shot, stabbed, decapitated etc. go hang out in mexico and eat chicklets all day not my problem. oh and did they kill you on kill haole day lol I guess not frank your obviously still alive so its obviously not really a day that we stop and kill a haole.

Comment by yourworstenemy — January 5, 2010 @ 8:43 pm

…also, whoever is copying my name is just a big jerk. Just because I like to go down on small boys does not mean I am gay. And I’m sorry about what I said about Mexicans eating chicklets all day. It’s just that I had a very bad experience with a Mexican man. He refused to kiss me after I gave him the best blow job he’s ever gotten. If you’re reading this Paco, I still love you.

Comment by yourworstenemy — January 5, 2010 @ 9:29 pm

Fuck you, you copycat asshole. Do you think you are clever you racist piece of shit? I don’t know how you know about Paco and I, but it’s not funny. Paco was the love of my life and knew how to treat a female impersonator like myself way better than any haole boy.

Comment by yourworstenemy — January 5, 2010 @ 9:40 pm

Wow someone has way too much time on their hands coming up with 2 posts trying to make like I responded to another one of your gay rants. Get a fuckin life you retard!! How about tell me who you really are so I can beat the shit out of you homo. Only shows what a pussy you are by going as low as copying someones name and writing a bunch of gay stories about yourself going down on mexican kids. FUCK OFF!!!

Comment by Ka'akau — January 6, 2010 @ 2:53 am

You seem to think it’s funny trying to make out like you are me. I have had sex with only men - no boys!!! What a pussy you are. Who are you? I will give you big lickings. FUCK OFF!!!

Comment by Ka'akau — January 6, 2010 @ 6:43 am

Ka’akau, I am your worst enemy.

Comment by yourworstenemy — January 6, 2010 @ 6:45 am

I am back on the mainland (thank God) after 5 years on the Big Island. I was fortunate enough to be able to visit family several times during the five years, but my husband because of his job was not able to leave during those years. He keeps commenting on how friendly and nice everyone is here. He didn’t really understand or want to admit how bad it was in Hawaii, but now that we are back he has admitted how happy he is to be “home”.
It is such a wonderful change to be back where people are friendly and people understand the meaning of customer service.
Just before we left we went into the Walmart in Hilo to purchase new cell phones. We stood there for 15 minutes while two young local women who appeared to be working there totally ignored us.
Customer service here as compared to Hawaii is like the difference betweeen night and day. In Hawaii I usually felt like the people who were supposed to be of service acted like they were doing me a favor by waiting on me.
Since we have been back and opened our new bank account and registered our vehicles, etc., people keep asking why we would choose to leave. I tell them of the blatant rascism, poor service among other things. Alot of people respond that they have heard about how bad the rascism is.
The locals seem too dumb to realize that the bulk of the state’s economy is based on tourism, and that a bad reputation as far as rascism towards mainlanders and “haoles” is not a good way to attract tourists.
I would strongly suggest that the people of Hawaii find another way of making their economy strong without trying to make money off of people that they hate.
Where I live now it is really much more diverse than Hawaii was and everyone is friendly and kind, and most people don’t seem to care if you have yellow, white, brown or black skin.
What a relief to be back in the civilized world!!!

Comment by Deborah — January 6, 2010 @ 1:18 pm

I’ve been here on and off since 1980 with my family (non-military), and to put it mildly, this place is a 3rd world country in the making. I went to school here, experienced the ever so charming last day of school ceremony known as “Kill a Haole Day” which landed me in the emergency room when I was 13 years old with shards of glass in the back of my head and a concussion from having these little inbred goons smash a mayo jar across the back of my head.

Beacuse I was white and going to school to pick up my stuff before summer vacation started.

Racists raised by racists.

For being white, I have been treated like absolute shit here. The only way you can get by without being chastised is to not talk, don’t act like you have any balls about yourself (seen as a challenge.. like dogs pissing on the same tree), and don’t ever act like you have a right to be here. Because you don’t.

And that’s fine, you can have your sorry ass schools, busted up roads, corrupt politicians, overflow of unemployable/unteachable masses from around the world, and your Polynesian chapter of the KKK (sovereignty movement). You can have all of it. Because we all know that if any of these knuckledragging mouthbreathers ever even wandered off this island to anywhere on the mainland to start a new life, they would find out real quick that the days of being halfassed and ready to shoot out excuses would be over.

It’s absolutely hilarious to connect the dots when it comes to most of the locals here and trailer park trash back stateside; live in some dilapidated structure, can’t/won’t get a job, spend most of their money on status symbols like a ridiculously raised pick up truck, drink beer, eat shit nasty food, enjoy violent/mindless sports, treat people of other colors like shit, homophobic, never gave a damn in school, and prefer excuses over actually doing hard work.

For the record, I spent much of my youth trying my damndest to fit in here.. by being beaten into submission the second I tried to defend myself for being accused of being “a stupid haole” and not welcome.

Fuck this place and fuck these inbred goons.

Comment by sickofhawaii — January 6, 2010 @ 1:59 pm

HAHAHAHA. We love white people coming to our islands. We always have something special for you. You are so dumb. We take your money and sodomize you and you keep coming back.

White residents make good slaves to us. We enjoy using them and stealing their items. We have the authorities in our back pocket.Keep coming you white dummies. Bring lots of vaseline.

Comment by Hawaiian Power — January 6, 2010 @ 2:51 pm

Ok pissed off locals, this is for you;

Stop. Stop treating us like shit. Me and everyone else on this blog who has commented didn’t take your land. We didn’t destroy anything of yours. We don’t even fucking know you. You don’t know us. And to make it perfectly clear, wrap your head around this; NONE of us want ANYONE to suffer or be oppressed. Did you hear that last part? In other words, if there was some empirical nation trying to take over a sovereign country in this day and age, many many many of us would stand up and voice that it is WRONG TO DO IT. And we’d be standing up right next to you screaming it WITH YOU.

Stop blaming me for shit that I had no responsibility in. Stop assuming that I discriminate against you. I married outside of my race, had children. I have dated girls of so many different creeds it’s ridiculous. Sorry white gals, I just can’t go back lol. In short, I’m not a racist. In short, your skin color don’t mean shit to me. It’s the actions that speak in volumes.

Get off our asses already. You’ve become the thing you hate.

Comment by sickofhawaii — January 6, 2010 @ 8:10 pm

My my Ka’akau, so transparent. At least you are expressing your true feelings.

Comment by yourworstenemy — January 6, 2010 @ 8:14 pm

ohh so your my worst enemy huh? how bout you show me instead of hiding behind your keyboard pussy!

Comment by Ka'akau — January 6, 2010 @ 10:11 pm

just what I thought, too scared to show yourself! at least I can admit my love of dressing as a woman, for I am Ka’akau, lover to all haole men and I don’t care who knows it!!!

Comment by Ka'akau — January 7, 2010 @ 8:39 pm

Good for you Ka’akau, I’m glad to see you are able to come to terms with who you are. But what exactly is a keyboard pussy? Is it something one would screw while looking at porn on the internet? Is there a keyboard cock for someone like you? Not judging, just curious.

Comment by yourworstenemy — January 7, 2010 @ 8:46 pm

No but I have fist that would smash your face if I saw you. Isn’t there medication for paranoid schizophrenics like you who get a kick out of impersonating other people to make them seem gay like you. You probably got a response to that already written out in my old name yourworstenemy then a second response made to look like me as Ka’akau. Your pretty lame and its getting old, you notice how no one else even cares. That’s because anyone with half a brain can tell what it is your doing dipshit so eat a bullet or something, go run a hot bath and slit your wrists loser.

Comment by Ka'akau — January 7, 2010 @ 10:19 pm

My goodness Ka’akau, such anger. And I thought you were really showing some progress towards admitting your homosexuality.

Comment by yourworstenemy — January 7, 2010 @ 10:59 pm

FUCK YOU!!! Stop saying I’m gay you asshole!!!
Paco was my only male lover and don’t you dare talk bad about him you fucking bastard!!!

Comment by Ka’akau — January 7, 2010 @ 10:59 pm

See, what did I tell you!!! FUCK OFF!!!
I am not gay!!!

Comment by Ka’akau — January 7, 2010 @ 11:06 pm

You sick bastard, leave me the fuck me alone!!!

Comment by Ka’akau — January 7, 2010 @ 11:08 pm

This is to yourworstenemy:

No shit dude, what is your problem? First of all, the Hawaiian people I have met have been very friendly and show me much Aloha. Secondly, what is the big deal if Ka’akau is gay, bi or whatever? I have gay friends, bi friends and Hawaiian friends. Heck, I even have a gay Hawaiian friend. Really bra, you need to chill.

Comment by Paco — January 8, 2010 @ 10:02 am

Okay I will admit it. I swallow. I like my rectum pounded. I am a Hawaiian Warrior, like many of us, we take it in the anus.

Comment by Ka'akau — January 8, 2010 @ 2:42 pm

Most Hawaii men are rectum pounders. We love to break in white tourists.

Comment by Ka'akau — January 8, 2010 @ 2:43 pm

Me and all of my Hawaiian Warriors love Ice and like to rob mindless whites who are the dumbest race on the earth. Please keep coming, we need your money.

Comment by Hawaiian Warrior — January 8, 2010 @ 2:45 pm

Hawaiian Warrior–Love to see your kind…I work at an area hospital and will let you DIE with your so called “WARRIORS” when your heart fails…I love it!!!KEEP SMOKIN…!I beat DOWN one of you in Wai’anae…How is that from a mindless white brah?

Comment by MDinHI — January 10, 2010 @ 6:01 am

Good for you Ka’akau (Hawaiian Warrior), let it out. Admission of who you are is the first step to recovery for you. Your father and his friends can’t hurt you anymore. I hope someday you will realize that just because your white father sodomized you over and over again you should not hate all whites, nor should you hate yourself.

Comment by yourworstenemy — January 10, 2010 @ 12:20 pm

MDinHI- who did you beat down, a chick? yourworstenemy- sorry dont have white parents period.

Comment by Ka'akau — January 11, 2010 @ 12:09 am

My mistake, Paco said is was your father that sodomized you. I thought he was talking about your step-dad.

Comment by yourworstenemy — January 11, 2010 @ 6:49 am

MDinHI- if it was a guy you beat down, I’m into it (bats eyes ;) What do you look like?
yourworstenemy - don’t worry about it. A lot of people make that mistake when I tell them my story.

Comment by Ka’akau — January 11, 2010 @ 6:57 am

I am a teen i was born in hawaii and still live here, i am very quite and dont bother anyone i barely talk to anyone besides my friends at school but yet everyday at school i would get “called out” and get called a haole by a group of people. I never had a bad attitude or said anything to these people i diddnt do anything wrong. when i told anyone like the principal they wouldnt do anything at all. This happened ever day and no one would stop it, i know this happens everywhere but i dont cry about it i just would like people to know that hawaii has problems and is so perfect like most people think. As soon as i turn 18 i am leaving and never wanna come back because of how i was treated, and if yu call this crying then so be it, but you try to be harrased every single day and no one does anything about it and see how you feel.

Comment by 109 — January 15, 2010 @ 6:52 am

ok well then I will call it crying…why dont you stand up for yourself and fight them! thats the only way or else it will never stop because they know your not gonna do shit so in turn it makes them feel even better. I’ve been harrased daily while I was growing up shit who hasn’t here in Hawai’i whoopdee doo but I had the balls to do something about it and not expect other people to come to my rescue. grow yourself a backbone dude!

Comment by Ka'akau — January 15, 2010 @ 10:10 pm

You white wussies always make good slaves and you love to be sodomized and you swallow well. I have exhausted many white rectums, especially tourists. Keep coming white fairys.

Comment by Ka'akau — January 17, 2010 @ 12:05 pm

Of course there is racism in Hawaii. There is racism everywhere in the US.

My friends who visit sometimes ask about it beforehand and also notice it when they are here. Of course they notice it less than they might if they lived here, since as visitors they tend to frequent only the visitor-oriented places.

My answer is that I suggest they are aware of it more here because it is directed at them for a change. That is, if they are white, they might intellectually understand that racism exists in their own town, or be willing to object to racist remarks made about someone else, but the experience of having it directed at you is something entirely different.

Racism takes many forms, both outright, like name calling, and very subtle, like getting less of a welcome or a more sterilized aloha rather than feeling truly greeted. Once my visitors perceive what racism is truly all about, they are often astonished what that feels like.

I also suggest that my friends with children use their visit as a means of educating them about racism, and “see how that feels?” It is a really golden opportunity to show their kids how it can hurt and make other people feel badly, so that they don’t go along with it in their own schools or with friends.

I moved to Maui some years ago, and I look native. I have to say that while I grew up in one of the most progressive and mixed-race environments, I never really understood how much I was on the “outside” until I came to a place where I am treated like an insider.

By the way, racism goes in all directions. As someone who looks native, even when dressed in ‘resort casual’ nice clothing and accompanying my visiting friends in tourist shops, I’m the one that gets closely watched as if I might steal something. And white people in the local community organizations (Lions, Rotary, etc) sometimes assume I am less educated or make less money than them.

I am sure it is harder for the kids in school, but gee, that’s the age when they are most likely to pick on each other for anything. I remember my school days, and if it wasn’t race it was something else (boy/girl, tall/short, fat/thin). Teach your children how to deal with it, not to become a part of it.

Also to Ka’akau, why such hateful bizarre statements? You need help.

Comment by Calico — January 17, 2010 @ 1:15 pm

For how bad everyone commenting thinks they have it, I really think that fat people and homosexuals are way worse off. I mean there is a rally going on where thousands of people are at the state capital saying that homosexuals shouldn’t have equal rights. And think about fat people. People openly gawk, say rude things, sneer. I’m neither, but I feel bad that these people are treated badly by at least one person everyday. Pretty much everywhere in America. So before you go feeling all sorry for yourself, think about others and what they go through. There are historical reasons for racism. I lived in Hawai`i my whole life, but I will never be Hawaiian, cause I’m not. I wouldn’t want to be, not because I don’t love them, but because we should all take pride in what we are and be ok with others who do the same. We should all make more effort to be kind to those who are kind to us, and who really cares about what mean people think? Sure as a black/white/native american I’ve had my share of good and bad, but that is everywhere I go (mainland, Asia, Europe), not just Hawai’i. And most people are totally fine and don’t bother. But if I were fat, or homosexual, then I would have something to complain about.

Comment by people — January 18, 2010 @ 10:37 am

Paco is my partner. I am the pitcher and he is the catcher. Paco also swallows and his rectum is exhasted by my Hawaiian Warrior. Paco and I are married. Thank you Obama!

Comment by Ka'akau — January 18, 2010 @ 1:58 pm

Another white, butt raped tonight.

Comment by yourworstenemy — January 18, 2010 @ 9:44 pm

Ka’akau and yourworstenemy– you two are doing what no one else can do with your filthy, vulgar writings.

You are only proving that what everyone is saying about Hawaii is true.

I was visiting forumshawaii.net, a local forum for auto enthusiasts, etc.

Try and read some of the posts and you will see that many Hawaii people cannot spell, use proper grammar, nor do they even bother to read the newspaper in order to be informed about world events.

Try and visit this post, there is a link to a Hawaii made video that will show you the “real” Hawaii and you will see what a “Moke” or Hawaiian grown thug looks/acts like…..beating up a person while 12 others mob him and beat on him too.

“Kid Jumped in Waikiki”

http://forumshawaii.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=584263

You will notice that the only person who tries to save the ONE victim, is a WHITE PERSON.

You will also see these half-evolved cro-magnons sharing a pipe that appears to be full of crystal meth, and smoking it in public.

THAT my friends, is the real Hawaii.

*and I was born/raised here

Comment by Ashamed — January 19, 2010 @ 12:52 pm

I am japanese, born in Hawaii, raised in japan by my mother. Ended up in Hawaii and gave birth to a beautiful girl with a “Hawaiian” (he had a full blooded great grandmother) My daughter has Blonde, Ehu, hair and and brown eyes. If I do say so myself, she is beautiful. Her father and I look “local.”

She has been ridiculed by her filipino and local japanese classmates for being “haole.” This coming from kids (obviously learning from their surroundings) that have NO Hawaiian blood.

“Local” filipinos and “Local” Japanese…the japanese of which speak none of their own language and have no idea of their own culture (eating mochi crunch, spam musubis and going to the annual Okinawa Festival does not count) are, I must say, predominantly RACIST but most of all IGNORANT!

Comment by April — January 21, 2010 @ 5:22 pm

sorry I have a copy cat that is using my name and writing ignorant homosexual and racist things to make me look bad. there probably be a response from a “yourworstenemy” then another one right after it from “Kaakau” which is the same person fucking around that will be posted right after I post this so disregard it.

Comment by Ka'akau — January 25, 2010 @ 11:24 pm

Just so everyone knows, all these comments came from the same IP address:

sorry I have a copy cat that is using my name and writing ignorant homosexual and racist things to make me look bad. there probably be a response from a “yourworstenemy” then another one right after it from “Kaakau” which is the same person fucking around that will be posted right after I post this so disregard it.
Comment by Ka’akau — January 25, 2010 @ 11:24 pm

For how bad everyone commenting thinks they have it, I really think that fat people and homosexuals are way worse off. I mean there is a rally going on where thousands of people are at the state capital saying that homosexuals shouldn’t have equal rights. And think about fat people. People openly gawk, say rude things, sneer. I’m neither, but I feel bad that these people are treated badly by at least one person everyday. Pretty much everywhere in America. So before you go feeling all sorry for yourself, think about others and what they go through. There are historical reasons for racism. I lived in Hawai`i my whole life, but I will never be Hawaiian, cause I’m not. I wouldn’t want to be, not because I don’t love them, but because we should all take pride in what we are and be ok with others who do the same. We should all make more effort to be kind to those who are kind to us, and who really cares about what mean people think? Sure as a black/white/native american I’ve had my share of good and bad, but that is everywhere I go (mainland, Asia, Europe), not just Hawai’i. And most people are totally fine and don’t bother. But if I were fat, or homosexual, then I would have something to complain about.
Comment by people — January 18, 2010 @ 10:37 am

Paco is my partner. I am the pitcher and he is the catcher. Paco also swallows and his rectum is exhasted by my Hawaiian Warrior. Paco and I are married. Thank you Obama!
Comment by Ka’akau — January 18, 2010 @ 1:58 pm

Another white, butt raped tonight.
Comment by yourworstenemy — January 18, 2010 @ 9:44 pm

ok well then I will call it crying…why dont you stand up for yourself and fight them! thats the only way or else it will never stop because they know your not gonna do shit so in turn it makes them feel even better. I’ve been harrased daily while I was growing up shit who hasn’t here in Hawai’i whoopdee doo but I had the balls to do something about it and not expect other people to come to my rescue. grow yourself a backbone dude!
Comment by Ka’akau — January 15, 2010 @ 10:10 pm

You white wussies always make good slaves and you love to be sodomized and you swallow well. I have exhausted many white rectums, especially tourists. Keep coming white fairys.
Comment by Ka’akau — January 17, 2010 @ 12:05 pm

MDinHI- who did you beat down, a chick? yourworstenemy- sorry dont have white parents period.
Comment by Ka’akau — January 11, 2010 @ 12:09 am

Okay I will admit it. I swallow. I like my rectum pounded. I am a Hawaiian Warrior, like many of us, we take it in the anus.
Comment by Ka’akau — January 8, 2010 @ 2:42 pm

Most Hawaii men are rectum pounders. We love to break in white tourists.
Comment by Ka’akau — January 8, 2010 @ 2:43 pm

Me and all of my Hawaiian Warriors love Ice and like to rob mindless whites who are the dumbest race on the earth. Please keep coming, we need your money.
Comment by Hawaiian Warrior — January 8, 2010 @ 2:45 pm

No but I have fist that would smash your face if I saw you. Isn’t there medication for paranoid schizophrenics like you who get a kick out of impersonating other people to make them seem gay like you. You probably got a response to that already written out in my old name yourworstenemy then a second response made to look like me as Ka’akau. Your pretty lame and its getting old, you notice how no one else even cares. That’s because anyone with half a brain can tell what it is your doing dipshit so eat a bullet or something, go run a hot bath and slit your wrists loser.
Comment by Ka’akau — January 7, 2010 @ 10:19 pm

Comment by Administrator — January 27, 2010 @ 10:22 am

Its a shame that the local Japanese get a free pass. They’re really the worst of the bunch. They have benefited the most from Hawaii being part of the US and yet white people get the brunt of the backlash.

Comment by Garret Nishimoto — January 27, 2010 @ 3:03 pm

Actually, “Administrator” is not me. However, he is correct that most of the comments he mentions are from the same IP. However, looking at the particular IP proves nothing because it only resolves to a Comcast IP block, not an individual.

Most likely it is the same person but more work would be required.

As an aside, it’s quite humorous to see how this post’s comments have taken off. I only monitor it for spam. I could have deleted all the homosexual and other posts, but I think it just proves the point that many people are saying. Plus, I believe in free speech, so knock yourselves out.

Comment by crystalattice — January 28, 2010 @ 3:12 am

that cant be right the ones I posted were -sorry I have a copy cat that is using my name and writing ignorant homosexual and racist things to make me look bad. there probably be a response from a “yourworstenemy” then another one right after it from “Kaakau” which is the same person fucking around that will be posted right after I post this so disregard it.
Comment by Ka’akau — January 25, 2010 @ 11:24 pm
ok well then I will call it crying…why dont you stand up for yourself and fight them! thats the only way or else it will never stop because they know your not gonna do shit so in turn it makes them feel even better. I’ve been harrased daily while I was growing up shit who hasn’t here in Hawai’i whoopdee doo but I had the balls to do something about it and not expect other people to come to my rescue. grow yourself a backbone dude!
Comment by Ka’akau — January 15, 2010 @ 10:10 pm
MDinHI- who did you beat down, a chick? yourworstenemy- sorry dont have white parents period.
Comment by Ka’akau — January 11, 2010 @ 12:09 am
No but I have fist that would smash your face if I saw you. Isn’t there medication for paranoid schizophrenics like you who get a kick out of impersonating other people to make them seem gay like you. You probably got a response to that already written out in my old name yourworstenemy then a second response made to look like me as Ka’akau. Your pretty lame and its getting old, you notice how no one else even cares. That’s because anyone with half a brain can tell what it is your doing dipshit so eat a bullet or something, go run a hot bath and slit your wrists loser.
Comment by Ka’akau — January 7, 2010 @ 10:19 pm
so I dont know how they can possibly coming from the same address I’m half way around the world and why would I say retarded shit like that. Also if you look at some of them from so called kaakau and yourworstenemy the response time is too quick so it has to be the same person.

Comment by Ka'akau — January 31, 2010 @ 12:17 am

I couldn’t make it all the way through this in one sitting, but found this site when looking for how many other people really disliked the Polynesian Cultural Center, which we really thought was awful.
Here’s my story.
I was born in Oahu, in Wahiawa General, but we lived in Kalani Gardens apartments in Mililani Town.
My father was military, and my mother LOVED Hawaii the whole time she was there, a few years I guess. She reported that nearly everyone who was stationed there hated it, and she was always puzzled as to why. It broke her heart to leave.

I hadn’t been there since I was a baby, but seeing it again was a dream that came true when my husband and I went there to get married, from the Northeastern US.

Our stay was brief, but during it, we learned we hated the PCC and would never go back there, really disliked Honolulu and would steer clear of it if we came back, and there was no point in restaurants… we could get restaurant food back home.

Our best impressions? Plate lunch off the back of the trucks on UH campus. Forgetting the camera, and following the road to nowhere and seeing where it led. Exchanging real smiles and gentle talk with the lady working at the check out line at the grocery store.
Me crying with unexpected sudden remembrance, the first night I heard the wind blowing through the palms, and it sounded like the sweetest rain, and my mother told me I went to sleep to that sound as a baby.

Any bad impressions? Mostly of honolulu, and honestly, once we melted into a gentle pace, and found that locals were friendly, mostly, when they see you aren’t in a hurry, aren’t demanding anything, aren’t acting like an ass. So that was positive. The rush-rush world, which my hubby never liked anyway, slipped off our shoulders, and suddenly we could see it when we went back to the hotel: the attitude that haole seemed to typify, of being impatient, arrogant, and selfish, not really seeing other people, expecting the world to come running when they tap the service bell. I could see why people don’t like that attitude, and why they were looking to see if I had it too, before being friendly.

We really kind of didn’t want to leave, by the time it was time to go, but reading all this here, who knows. My mother loved the weather, loved the life, and it was her happiest time. She didn’t reject or resist the culture.

Every year we do a luau, sometimes indoors because it’s too cold here, and it’s mostly to remember something really special that wasn’t found at any tourist trap. I make Spam Musubi, Chicken LongRice, a little Haupia, and nobody we invite ever wants to try any of it, so sometimes we don’t invite them, and just enjoy “mo fo us”. Sometimes when I get too tired of too much snow and ice, by February, I turn on live streaming Kapa FM and find it soothing.

My mother does say that Beat Haole Day was a reality in the 70’s, but she herself never felt any threat nor any bad feeling from any local… but then, they were the ones she could be friends with, not the other army wives, who all hated Hawaii.

Sometimes my hubby and I joke about moving there, but we know it’s a wistful joke. And maybe that is best anyway… maybe the violence and drugs have made it someplace my mother wouldn’t even get along in now, who knows.

But I am glad for the good feeling we got when we chatted with the lady working at the grocery store, the sort of quiet, nice people who were locals, that we ran into off the beaten track, who were reserved while they looked to see what kind of people we were, but then came across gentle, and friendly, when we treated them the same way. Maybe we were lucky.

I did get one of the most potent “bad face” looks I ever received when an older lady poked her head from her house and saw me looking out the car window. She probably thought I was rudely staring. Maybe I was. She definitely managed to convey hatred of Haole in that one glance, to the point that I sure wished we could stop so I could explain to her that I didn’t mean anything disrespectful, was just admiring her house, taking in the wonder of her little garden. Maybe it would have changed nothing, if I had.

This blog makes me think and has been an education of sorts.
We really liked the different mindset, the relaxed pace, and the way Hawaiians seem to feel about Keiki, at least the ones we ran into. My mother also said Hawaiians were so much gentler with children, and more loving and demonstrative, than mainstream haole culture. She loved that. So if the love of Keiki isn’t still thriving there, that is tragic. But drugs destroy families and entire cultures, and spare no one, and I hope that is not the final story for Hawaii.

Comment by Kealani — January 31, 2010 @ 9:01 pm

I just left Hawaii for the third time, after I bought some property 6 months ago. The truth is that that hapa haole japanese in the islands have no problems openly discriminating against white mainlanders. Moreover, any white mainlanders coming to Hawaii have very little chance to be given a job unless they work for themselves. Aloha is a concept that is not practiced in Hawaii unless you have money and you are spending it in the resorts. Sure people do smile a lot, but is does not mean that they will allow you to ever “belong” there. The sad thing that a lot of people claim to be “hawaiian or part, but the only thing they share is a deep suntan and dark hair; they tend to be the most racist ones.

Comment by billco — February 6, 2010 @ 12:11 am

I have commented here before and just thought id update, after living on all the islands I gotta say maui and the big island are the best if your haole or mainlander not much haole hating going on there but the big island does have more tweekers so ultimately choose maui if your white since alot of areas in maui are already like 80% white people and almost seem and feel like the mainland also the locals in maui are more chill could be because of mauis hippy history lotsa haoles came there peacfully way back in the day and maybe that left a positive impression with the locals the truth is im not much of a fan of tourists anywhere mainland to because a good amount of them are snobby aholes all you future tourists just come with a chill attitude and ditch your rental cars and get a moped or junker car to see how hawaii can be if you take off the tourist stereotype mask but yeah hands down mauis the most haole friendly because mauis mostly haole anyways and as soon as i get a job there i will be moving back there from oahu maui got hit the hardest in the economy/job sector btw im haole

Comment by Ryan — February 6, 2010 @ 5:57 pm

It’s interesting to hear how Hawaiians are still looking for someone to blame when this generation had nothing to do with the seizure of Hawaii. I’m 19 years old and have visited Hawaii before. The hatred of “white people” in general was more than blatent. Whether I was looked at in disgust, called a “haole” or simply ignored when merely trying to make conversation, the discrimination was completely obvious. I have blonde hair, green eyes and medium skin. I am of German, Irish and Native American descent. But, since I have no obvious Native American characteristics, I am labeled a “haole.” I bet anything if I were full American Indian I wouldn’t be discriminated against. Go ahead, say it, the same thing happened to the Indians as the Hawaiians. I’m not denying any of it. But, at what point is the rascism going to stop? There’s nothing I can do about what happened to Hawaii, nor America, pre-Colonial times. But, consider this, now Hispanics are taking over America, and there’s nothing anyone can do about it, whereas Hawaii had a say in the annexation. If anything, blame your government, Hawaii. Why keep blaming a generation of people for something their ancestors did? It’s like a neverending battle, and for what?? Why are Hawaiians trying to prove something? We all have read the history books and yeah, it was terrible, but I think America has been ridiculed enough for everything its forefathers have done. Anyone saying that Hawaii doesn’t have a rascist problem needs a reality check. Look at the case of Dana Ireland. She was stalked, beaten and raped to death at the mere age of 23. Why did the assailants pick her? They said “because she was a fucking ‘haole’.” What’s a haole? Another rascist name for a white person. And anyone saying that whites need to earn respect in Hawaii - how is a “haole” supposed to earn respect when they’re beaten, raped, killed, disrespected and discriminated against? All I can say is, if you keep biting the hand that feeds (the hand being tourists ‘MONEY’ and biting being the way that whites are treated) you’re not going to be eating for much longer. You’ll starve (Hawaii’s economy will crash, burn and die.) The least the natives can do is be somewhat hospitable to the people that are keeping bread on their table and a roof over their heads.

Comment by KB — February 7, 2010 @ 1:09 am

What is truly comical is how locals love to call someone a cry baby when they are called on their racism and hate. This while they cry over and over again how the white man took their land even though they are only 1% Hawaiian. All their failures are due to that cursed evil white man. They will also call you ignorant at the drop of a hat while they themselves can barely speak English and simply math confounds them. What little they do know about the outside world is twisted by extreme leftist viewpoints from teachers who don’t even try to teach the basics. Not that the kids try, it’s not cool to learn and get good grades, better to know how to rap and fight.
Another comical sight is the pickup driving, trash throwing, racist redneck locals that cry about protecting the land while standing in a garbage heap they call their front yard. Moke jokes the lot of them.

Comment by Ka'akau — February 8, 2010 @ 6:50 am

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